Template conundrum!!!

censi

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Please help to re-arrange the foloowing 12 gems on 3 armour pieces so each piece has 37.5 Over charge and theres no identical types (celtic duel mainly) on each piece.

can it be done (mathimatically the utility fits but im not sure if theres any combinations that can do it) its driving me nutz

<censi> Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
<censi> Gem 2: 52 Hits - 99 faceted Blood Essence
<censi> Gem 3: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
<censi> Gem 4: 5 Heat Resist - 99 flawed Heated Shielding
<censi> Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
<censi> Gem 2: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
<censi> Gem 3: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 polished Airy Shielding
<censi> Gem 4: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
<censi> Gem 1: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
<censi> Gem 2: 19 Quickness - 99 faceted Airy Essence
<censi> Gem 3: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
<censi> Gem 4: 3 Stealth - 99 rough Airy Battle Jewel

please help.
 

evzy

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Hmmm I would help but you are teh enemy so therefore would kinda like be loading your gun for you to shoot me with... so no... it can't be done!!

~scurries off back behind teh barricade~
 

Nix

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There's plenty of configurations, you don't have to have them all at 37.5, or actually you can't have them :)

28 Cons
3 CD
9 Cold
5 Heat
36.0 Utility

25 Cons
9 Thrust
4 CD
3 Stealth
37.5 Utility

9 Cold
19 Qui
3 CD
52 Hits
34.0 Utility

I would get couple of new gems to raise the utility a bit if I were you :)
 

anioal

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item1

Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 3 Stealth - 99 rough Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Utility: 69.67

item2

Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 52 Hits - 99 faceted Blood Essence
Gem 4: 19 Quickness - 99 faceted Airy Essence
Utility: 59.33

item3
Imbue Points: 33.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 98%
Gem 1: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 polished Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Heat Resist - 99 flawed Heated Shielding
Utility: 61.00

so u need 2 mp and 1 99% (or use 9% heat instead of 5% on 3rd item - for 3rd mp)
 

Gorbachioo

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You beat me to it nix (edit: so did you anioal:<)
:(

Heres mine anyway :)

Piece1:
28 con
19 quick
4 celtic dual
5 heat

Piece2:
9 cold
9 thrust
3 celtic dual
52 hits

Piece3:
stealth 3
celtic dual 3
9 cold
25 con
 

Nix

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Anioal's is the best because you need only 2 MPs for it :)
 

Kaun_IA

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id only use 99 qua armor on classic... on toa servers.. never go under MP... such waste of util on a class that needs ALOT

and yeah censi, try and swap some jewlery around if possible... mybe then its doable
 

censi

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WAIT WAIT ONE OF THE LINES WAS WRONG ITS THESE 12 GEMS!!!! (had 2X9%cold instead of 9% cold 5 pierce)

<censi> Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
<censi> Gem 2: 52 Hits - 99 faceted Blood Essence
<censi> Gem 3: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
<censi> Gem 4: 5 Heat Resist - 99 flawed Heated Shielding
<censi> Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
<censi> Gem 2: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
<censi> Gem 3: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 polished Airy Shielding
<censi> Gem 4: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
<censi> Gem 1: 5 PIERCE Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
<censi> Gem 2: 19 Quickness - 99 faceted Airy Essence
<censi> Gem 3: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
<censi> Gem 4: 3 Stealth - 99 rough Airy Battle Jewel
 

lpep

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could be wrong here but dont u get to go a lil over when u have + to a skill on an item.. think the first point in + to a skil doesnt count...never blown my sc'r up yet :p.. well maybe the once when i was trying to sc when rather drunk....
 

anioal

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item1

Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 52 Hits - 99 faceted Blood Essence
Gem 3: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 19 Quickness - 99 faceted Airy Essence
Utility: 63.67

item2

Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 polished Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 3 Stealth - 99 rough Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 66.67

item3

Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 5 Piercing - 99 imperfect Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 5 Heat Resist - 99 flawed Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Utility: 66.67


happy?

PS. with those gems u cant get 3x 37.5
 

censi

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awsome thanks, can up quick to 22 as well.
 

Konah

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question for the sc gods: is it true u can oc to 38 if u use 4x mp gems? read it somewhere recently, wondering if its bollox ;)
 

Leel

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Even if it is true, good luck getting someone to do that job for you.
 

Commandment

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Leel said:
Even if it is true, good luck getting someone to do that job for you.

if you had scer yourself! could make a very ownage temp :p + nobody could copy it xD
 

Nix

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Konah said:
question for the sc gods: is it true u can oc to 38 if u use 4x mp gems? read it somewhere recently, wondering if its bollox ;)

Calculating an overcharge chance:

Base chance:
1 pt overcharge: -10 %
2: -20 %
3: -30 %
4: -50 %
5: -70%

modified by the quality of each gem (per gem):
94-95: +0%
96: +1%
97: +3%
98: +5%
99: +8%
100: +11%

and the quality of the item itself:
94-95: +0%
96: +6%
97: +8%
98: +10%
99: +18%
100: +26%

and finally, the skill level of the spellcrafter him/herself:
50 -45%
100 -40
150 -35
200 -30
250 -25
300 -20
350 -15
400 -10
450 -5
500 0
550 +5
600 +10
650 +15
700 +20
750 +25
800 +30
850 +35
900 +40
950 +45
1000 +50


So even if 6 point overcharge would have -119% modifier, you'd have a 1% chance to do it with LGM and 4xMP gems... But I think 6pt overcharge is made to be impossible (= modifier of -120% or lower).
 

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