Teh Petrol Campaign!

[Daws]

We are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer.

Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action.

Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.

BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join in!

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP at 77p -80p, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace not sellers.

With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.

Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally
millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... .. THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people.

That's all.(and not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can
make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE

Action:
It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell, Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons (75p)Jet etc.

i.e. boycott BP and Esso.

Pass the message round, people

 

[Addlcove]

so what you´re suggesting is that you start spamming millions of people because your petrol prices reached 89p a litre.... are you aware that we pay $1.416 or 1.142 EUR
a litre in denmark? so stop you´re fucking whining!

 

[Sissyfoo]

Even better, walk/cycle/train to work, you fucking polluting whores!!

 

[tris-]

in NE england the price is upto over a £1 now

 

[Ezteq]

well i think its a brilliant idea in theory but heres the problem, us brits like to moan about stuff and how awful it is then we buy it anyway! your main job is cracking the shell of apathy that surrounds people on topics like this, personally i'd love to do it but i dont have a car so i dont really count but still if youve read this and live in the uk and are pissed at petrol prices that can it really hurt to do it? what this fella's saying makes sence, a lot more than the dippy buggers on telly who make half hearted suggestions. dont know if any1 remembers this but there was a thing with the major supermarkets in the uk a few years ago with baked beans one supermarket sold them at 10p a can and every1 else was dropping the prices so fast it was funny to watch it ended up with beans dropping to 2p a can now you think we did that, the people that shopped and brought the cheaper version no reason to think it wont work with petrol.

 

[yaruar]

Even better, walk/cycle/train to work, you fucking polluting whores!!

I was going to suggest that. THe best way to protest is for all the fat lazy car drivers who drive down the road to the pub or to the local shop to get off their arses and do some excercise.

I pay 0p a mile walking and when I finally get a new bike i will have diminishing costs the more I ride.

 

[yaruar]

well i think its a brilliant idea in theory but heres the problem, us brits like to moan about stuff and how awful it is then we buy it anyway! your main job is cracking the shell of apathy that surrounds people on topics like this, personally i'd love to do it but i dont have a car so i dont really count but still if youve read this and live in the uk and are pissed at petrol prices that can it really hurt to do it? what this fella's saying makes sence, a lot more than the dippy buggers on telly who make half hearted suggestions. dont know if any1 remembers this but there was a thing with the major supermarkets in the uk a few years ago with baked beans one supermarket sold them at 10p a can and every1 else was dropping the prices so fast it was funny to watch it ended up with beans dropping to 2p a can now you think we did that, the people that shopped and brought the cheaper version no reason to think it wont work with petrol.

it won't work in the long term with petrol because the price of oil is controlled by two factors. The first is the OPEC cartel which fixes the levels of supply to control price. The price is then fixed each day on the fuel exchanges by traders.
The second component is taxation. The majority of the cost in this country is tax.
The suppliers to the consumers (esso/exxon, shell, BP, etc.) may be able to drop their prices but that will be at a loss to them, they don't fix the price. There is no way consumer action can change the price the production cartels fix, the only way to deal with that is through political pressure.

 

[Ezteq]

I was going to suggest that. THe best way to protest is for all the fat lazy car drivers who drive down the road to the pub or to the local shop to get off their arses and do some excercise.

I pay 0p a mile walking and when I finally get a new bike i will have diminishing costs the more I ride.

lol aye ever notice people drive to the chippy on the corner then pay a fortune to join a gym?

 

[old.Whoodoo]

so what you´re suggesting is that you start spamming millions of people because your petrol prices reached 89p a litre.... are you aware that we pay $1.416 or 1.142 EUR
a litre in denmark? so stop you´re fucking whining!

1.142 EUR is less than £0.89p. Highest UK price to date is so far £1.19, nearly 2 EUR!

Stopping buying ESSO petrol solves nothing, this is complete twaddle, as pointed out, its the government who have inflated the price of fuel, so try voting now for a party that might rethink it, if there is one.

 

[Binky the Bomb]

There are too many ppl on the bloody roads anyway. Besides, if prices DO go up, all the little tossers who've done there cars up will no longer be able to afford to drive them. Tada, we suddenly have safer roads (well, marginally safer) not to mention the fact that fuel guzzeling motors will either be on the road less, or be traded in for some thing else. Some neighbours of mine have an SUV. They take the kids to and from school, and do the shopping in it, thats all. I'd love to see the end of the bastard thing, i realy would. Noisy, ugly and a bloody danger to everyone on the road, and the SUV they drive is even worse.

The price hike is a bad thing, but look to the benefits. No young tossers on the road, no SUV's, no 3 bloody cars for a family with 1 person working (you all know it happens), more people walking, riding bikes and getting exercise (not bad, considering all realy fat gits out there*), cleaner air, less road accidents. My god, sounds like a road to paradise...... anyone fancy a drive?

(*= Ok, you know who/what im taking about. If they went of safari, they would attract every predator withing a 1000 mile area. Good eats for the winter season's etc. They type of ppl who can't help but watch there weight, alls all around them in spades. They tpe of people who buy baggy wear, and get comfortable fits. People who make regular fat ppl look petite!)

 

[Teh FnoRd]

to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace not sellers.

To bad it doesn't work like that. Oilcompanies can pretty much set the prices as they wish as oil will always be in high demand, regardless of how many people boycott thisname and whosname.
and I agree with binky. higher prices -> less cars on the roads -> etc.

 

[Ezteq]

well we see it in the news all the time about the government battling with obeseity (and i dont mean john prescott) so maybe this is all part of the plan, raise fuel prices so people cant afford to buy chips? cos you know for a fact as much as they moan they aint going to give up their cars

 

[Fana]

Imo its a good thing the price of petrol keeps rising. If it rises to a level where few people can afford it then maybe the global pollution levels will finally start to drop. I would certainly love to see less cars on the streets where i live.

 

[Job]

True, I'd like to see petrol doubled in price for non commercial traffic.

Too many people , too many cars driving round for no more reason than they can, all getting fat, the streets now belong to the yobs.
Why walk, risk getting wet/mugged/intimidated, the whole thing is a vicious circle.

If more decent people walked the streets, we would outnumber the fuckheads instead of the other way round.

I'm no eco-fascist, in fact I drive a 4 litre Jeep, but cycle to work.
In fact I've only done 20,000 miles in 5 yrs in it.
(I know most people can't ,but that's because they take higher payed jobs miles from where they live, so they can afford to pay a bigger mortgage, push prices up and be worse off anyway).

Go it's bad these days, seriously thinking of emigrating, the whole place is 1 giant traffic jam, where are all these poeple going!!!!!

The LAST thing we need is cheaper petrol, it is cheap anyway, 20 yrs ago a gallon of petrol was a lot more in real terms than it is now, and cars did a lot less to the gallon.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Imo its a good thing the price of petrol keeps rising. If it rises to a level where few people can afford it then maybe the global pollution levels will finally start to drop. I would certainly love to see less cars on the streets where i live.

No car = more time at home = more copulating time = more people..lol

Raising fuel prices to cut the amount of people on the roads is not nor will not work. I see kids paying £2G+ for car insurance at 17, plus the fuel, so raise the fuel and they just lower their car spec.

The first thing you need to tackle is public transport, which in the majority of the UK is both essential to users and utter shite.

I for one need my car, taking it away from me because I cant afford to run it on NHS wages is daft. I look after systems essential to the health service in 5 hospitals, the alternative is to employ 4 more people - one for each site, to reduce my travelling, but that racks up £100/year.

Take a train you say...ok, next time you arrive in A&E and need immediate attention, remember that as it takes the doctors, nurses, porters, technicians and all the other staff the time to get to work.

Sad to say it but in this day and age the car is an essential form of transport for so many. Perhaps we need to think of ages restrcitions on cars, say under 1000cc engines for under 20s, 1400cc limit to 25. We also need to encorouge manufacturers to start thinking of making gas guzzlers less attractive to those who dont need them. And put more development into alternative fuels like electricity, gas and combi-fuels.

This debate could go on forever, its a no win situation, there is a long hard road for us all to go down before we put this right, it just needs the consumer to start thinking beyond his own needs.

 

[Binky the Bomb]

Aye. Ezteq, ever seena fat man drive (outside an 18 wheeler or bus)? It's impossible. As for Mr Prescott, well, we use different names for the top three in power.
Noddy = Gordon Brown (When 'Bigears' is making a speach, thats all he does).
Bigears = Blair (Yeah, i realy have to point that one out).
The Fat Controller = Take a wild guess..... (Ditto)!

Seriously though, there is a major obesity problem, that a hike in pertol mite cure. Plus if people have to resort to public transport more, someting there mite be done as well (A few problems in that department, we wont get into here. Yet.).

I mean, yesterday, i was taken out for a meal (b-day treat off a friend), and whilst up in the town centre, we spotted (obscured by?) a woman who must have been about 400lb easy. This woman was a mound of mobile flab with layers (folds) in the skin, visible though her clothing (here's a tip, never EVER allow obese people tight fitting clothing. It's just wrong! Like allowing a 13 year old girl to wear fishnet stockings and a bustie. It's just that simple.) She bend over to pick up some bags (5 attempt like) and her short skirt began to rise, never before have i seen sop many people automatically turn so sharply to look away. It was impulse, like drawing your hand away from something hot, only faster and with more sence of urgency. If something is burned into your hand, it can be sorted within a few months. If something is burned nto your brain, it NEVER leaves. Luckely no one was harmed, although McDonalds did loose custom (happened right outside it's window). It's not nice, it's not rigth, but like most things, we just accept it.

Now, it we get some old horse drwan carts and hook some of the buggers to em, we got cheap transport right there. Rod with a cream cake on the end to lead em, job done.

 

[Fana]

Well if you really need a car to do your work then afaik your employer will pay for fuel and/or the car. How ppl that dont use a car in their actual work *get* to their workplace is their own problem as far as im concerned. Or ok, its the problem if the city, and should be solved by better public transportation. If all the car drivers paid even half of what they spend on petrol each year on taxes towards public transports then we would have splendid public communications. And better air.

What im talking about is all the unnecessary driving that could be replaced by communal transports, bikes or walking.

 

[Linnet]

The first thing you need to tackle is public transport, which in the majority of the UK is both essential to users and utter shite.

Agree.

Unfortunately, this needs to be subsidised. Otherwise bus & train companies just turn round and say (quite reasonably), that they won't run unprofitable routes. I know that locally to me, there used to be a Sunday bus service which recently stopped, reason being that there regularly used to be only 2-3 people on the bus.

Offer people a semi decent bus service and it STILL wouldn't get most of them to stop using their cars. They'll make all sorts of excuses "I thought it might be late", "couldn't be bothered to wait 10 minutes", "can't remember the timetable" but in the end, they'll dig out the cars because they are just too important to take the bus like regular plebs.

Speaking of local area, another local issue is the lack of parking. Car drivers (of which I am not one) make a huge fuss to have every tiny scrap of green land paved over so that they can argue about who gets to park on it. Yet somehow, the notion that "if you have a car, then don't buy a house which doesn't have parking spaces" seems to have eluded them.

The local Tories claim to be the party of car drivers (I think they want to pave over Berkshire and make it into a huge carpark or something). Bully for them. But meanwhile, who is going to tackle the issues of local congestion (hint: widening roads has been proven not to help congestion), public transport, pollution, etc?

Take a train you say...ok, next time you arrive in A&E and need immediate attention, remember that as it takes the doctors, nurses, porters, technicians and all the other staff the time to get to work.

Because it's impossible for medical workers to live within walking distance of work, or get bikes, or take public transport. Let people with 'other' jobs worry about that.

Sad to say it but in this day and age the car is an essential form of transport for so many.

Essential for some. But a lot of others have convinced themselves that it is essential because they haven't ever really considered living without one. It IS a lifestyle choice. If you choose not to have a car, then you need to think about living near where you work, or near public transport. If your town and city has rubbish transport, then you need to think about moving somewhere with better provision. You need to think about ordering your monthly groceries online and having them delivered so that you don't have to use taxis or heft heavy bags. Where there is a will, there is usually a way.

It's like if you are an avid nethead, you don't buy a house in an area that doesn't have cable. It's like if you have kids, you try to buy a house in the cachement area of a good school for them. Lifestyle choice.

 

[Ezteq]

our local public transport is rank, we have a big drugs problem in bournemouth (specially the bit where i live) so i can understand people not wanting to stand about waiting for a bus in the dark (personally i go out at night as little as possible) the bus schedules are ok but they are often late, you get stuck to chewing gum if you sit down or you get some greasy old wino molesting you if the government want people to use public transport more they should clean it up, its that simple i'd love to see tony blair sat on a smelly dirty bus surrounded by the great unwashed and come off telling people they should use this service more!

 

[Job]

Tis true but sad, the public transport outside of the rush hour, is a no-go area.
The whole setup is a perfect recipe for crime, locked in a carriage or sat on a dark platform/bustop with no back up.
Our local trains have an amusing sign.

SOME TRAINS HAVE CCTV AND OFFENDERS WILL BE PROSECUTED

'SOME TRAINS!!!'
'OH, AND THEY'RE PROSECUTING NOW ARE THEY!!'


And guess what they did, they spent frekin thousands amploying ticket inspectors to check your ticket!!!!!
Listen I don't give a fook if Billybob there hasn't paid his fare, how about getting the Heroin addict with a flick knife of the platform!!!

 

[Daws]

Interesting debate indeed. It was for merely that reason that i posted it, I didn't really think I was going to help reach 300 million people or whatever the silly email says. I walk as much as I can, though it's inconvenient for me to use public transport cos of where I live.