Team Fortress 2

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vuz

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Hmm, a variety of facts have started to make my worry about TF2, the game I always used to think would be the best ever, although now i fear something ... a bit shite tbh.

Firstly:
They say all the TF2 maps will be non 2fort type ones, ie. ones where the map isn't just 2 symmetrical bases.
This innitially sounds good, but we've now played these type maps in TF [Casbah comes to mind] and quite frankly they're shite. The best maps in almost every patch etc are the ones where the teams are in symmetrical bases [from well to co2 to flagrun..], CS do the job of different styles bases how it should be done, and that is in a game designed around being accurate and where capturing a flag has no relevance....

Secondly:
They said way back before tf1.5 in the tfc1.0.1.6 era its gonna play somewhere between CS and TF, they the TF1.5 era comes, they fuck up concs and all [i'm not saying the current concs are bad, just i prefer the old ones], and I seriously suspect they're trying to completely wipe out concs from the game where the conc jump 0wnz all

Thirdly:
They say that there will be no individual scores, just team scores. While this too sounded good for teamplay etc it now doesn't, one of the best things in TF is when u go defence and get a high score and die 0 times, or going offence and while the rest of offence struggle to get past the first soldier you repeatedly get the flag out and to your cap point, fantastic, you have a score to show for it and everyone's pleased. On the bright side this'll stop n00bie clans looking at the clq to see how good players are...

Fourthly:
It's taking too fucking long to come out, when the shots started to appear the graphics were pretty damn "l337", now they aint quite as good as they were, when it comes out it won't be that incredible..

Fifthly [lalala]:
The people making it, imo, don't listen enough to the people who play it, they keep doing things the community just doesn't want, we liked our concs, we love our 2fort, wot would be fucking awesome is a upgrade in engine, with nice graphics etc and everyone can cos it 0wnz ....

i suspectz that the TFC makers made a game, it 0wned all, the makers meanwhile got CS, played that and thought that 0wned and however much they try they can't stop trying to be like it, even though its a completely different type of FPS...


argh, fuck it, fuck it all
 
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old.RooT

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I think the makers of hl dont know wot their doing any more
1. they fuk tfc and bring out netcode that is shite
2.there new maps r erm shite
3.they ave not done anythin new on tf2 in a while ie pics videos...
 
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vuz

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<MrBee> they should add a "realistic" mode and a "classic" mode


i like that idea
a classic mode....
 
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old.RooT

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I dont think tf2 will take off like tfc did =( cos its going 2 b cs with classies and a v slow game ie no fast attacks and stuff...
 
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vuz

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yeah, TFC was great cos it was fast and frantic like [kinda] and from wot i pick up from valve tf2 simply won't be :(
 
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Deady

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teh medics should have shoes that make them go faster!!!1
 
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old.Andy

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The way I see it TF2 won't appeal to the same people that TFC does.
I used to like concing, and individual scores but now both annoy me a bit.
Without both there would be much greater need for teamwork and although the truth is that it is unlikely to happen, maybe this is part of valves delay in releasing TF2. Maybe they are building in an auto-sweet dispenser that rewards you when you help your team.

There won't be any flags in TF2, as I understand it, the objectives will be more like the new maps. e.g. attack/defend key points, capture things from the enemy base and hold them etc
Personal scores are in my opinion the main reason certain maps like rock2 are so often boring stalemates. No-one wants to attack because their score will look bad compared to the 4 engys building guns on defence and the 2 snipers shooting the enemies two snipers.
If concs had never been in TFC nobody would want them put in, they ruin epicentre, and make warpath a map where 1 person alone can cap all the points, which should be impossible due to the gap between the last 2 points.

Actually now I see why I play Hunted and Dustbowl/Avanti so much. hunted requires no teamwork so its hard for anyone to mess it up, you just snipe, or shoot snipers. And Dustbowl/Avanti are different from the bog standard 2 forts, the defence needs to be adaptable which means people who don't like the fast paced action don't play it. They can still be played badly but at least are rarely a half hour long stalemate or even worse half an hour of continous capping by solo attackers on both teams.
 
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old.Sokem

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Tf2 is not going to be a "capture the flag affair" they are aiming for an army type game, Think saving private ryan but more glorified

It's going to be realistic none of this concussion jumping malarky (stand on a grenade and jump and NOT die is'nt exactly rl is it :)) and it being based around military operations i.e take the beach, destroy this computer in nme's base - so more like UT's assault type maps
 
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shabazz

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I actually think that the team only score is a good idea. Granted, quakers, etc, will miss it but at the end of the day it's about the team winning. How many of you, at the end of a CS round, think: "Yes I killed the last peep and won the round" or "yes, the TEAM won" ?

It's a good push into teamplay, which is hard enough on public servers - although most catch on after a while on CS. It might also stop those lamers just after a score and a reputation.

Just a thought
 
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vuz

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On CS i wud see this as a perfectly plausable option, but this is TF2 not CS2.. which comes to the whole point of TF2 makers wanting to make cs
 
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old.+SA+Eliminator

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I agree with ViRuZ's point about the graphics, when they showed us their latest screenshots, which was ages ago they looked amazing. Now, other games have had sufficient time to touch up their engines and suddenly it does not look as sweet as it once did.
Also if the same muppets who made the new CS models are involved with the TF2 ones then i'm not getting my hopes up ;)
 
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Atomic Rammer

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imho looking at screenies isnt the best way of judging the graphics.

If you downloaded the movie files you would have seen how nice the models were moving. It was sweet. To me thats the eye candy and u cant appreciate it from a still.
 
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shabazz

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the truth is that TF2 only shares the moniker with the previous versions - some will be upset by this, but if Valve can pull off tf2 (as virus said, CS2) that it will rock. Still if CTF is still in it that s kinda gay...

"Ok men we're attacking this beachhead then moving onto the nme basecamp"

"What are we going to do there sir?, steal information, kill the bastards, etc ?"

"No you idiot, were gonna grab their flag and run off with it......."

"but sir,"

"no buts private..."
...
 
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old.+SA+Eliminator

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Instead of taking the flag why don't they just burn it, if you watch the news these Palastinians are constantly burning the USA flag. Where the hell do they get them from? There must be one hell of a rich local flag maker ;)
 
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old.Morpheus

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Team Fortress 2 is not going to be like Team Fortress, Team Fortress Classic or any of the other fortress-clones.

It is going to be much more sophisticated, and reward people for working in a team. Don't even try to compare it to the old genre. Most of you will enjoy it, though. ;)
 
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