TBTQ - The Big Theurgist Question

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old.Gryllus

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Hi all,

I just reached lvl20 with my small theurg , Sikoly. (Full earth specced at the moment.)

The question is, as always, which path to choose?
Earth is very good in PvE , I can support every group with buffs, and bladeturn very effectively.
I think I keep this path till lvl40, it is good enough to get XP.

But how does an earth theurg work in RvR? And how are the others doing?

Please share your experiences, knowledge, spam, flame, and pieage here :)
 
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-Nxs-

Guest
An earth theurgs job in RvR, is generaly just to buff and PBT the group, unfortunatly the mana drain on 6sec PBT is quite high, so there will be little much else you could do.

On the offensive side, Earth pets are the best at melee, and have the longest duration of all the Theurg pets, Hearing some time ago from FULL earth theurgs, the pets were pretty strong.

Around the implementation of /respec I tried out a Wind spec theurg, at L45, had 26 in earth for basic PBT and the rest in wind, my god what a differance RvR made. There was plenty of mana to pulse PBT and knock off the odd nuke or two, AOE mezz worked a treat some times too.
 
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old.windforce

Guest
earth pets got nerfed in 1.48 (not sure)
they arent that strong any more as in the time that Roni was ruler of the Earth(pets)
 
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Bodzilla

Guest
get 26 earth, then pump up ice untill level 40 when you can /respec ice and get air :)
 
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Aule Valar

Guest
3 therug specs really i'd say
Defensive
45earth rest ice (about 30ish)
You'll be able to keep you group alive a better and people will love you for the pbt, you'll also have ice and earth pets
however you won't be able to nuke very well, and will have v little power to do so

Hybrid
35 earth 40 ice
Good defence with 8sec pbt, with items you'll have 50 ice so your dd will be reasonably good and again you get both ice and earth pets to play with
however with 8sec pbt and the baseline dd (uses more power than spec air one) its a lot more power hungry

Offensive
26earth 45air 14ice
Gives you 10sec pbt, still good enough to get groups and is useful in rvr, best air nuke, and 2nd best mes, allows you to nuke a lot harder than ice, and the aoe mes is shit, but still v usefull
also 25 sec aoe root giving you a 2nd aoe cc option. Only pet you'll get is the air one, pretty weak and short lived but chain stunning is great

finially, woe betide anyone who trys cast pets with pbt going, your power evaporates very fast (mcl useful here)
 
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old.mattshanes

Guest
To be honest it doesn't really matter what spec you go now as all this sc stuff has made it harder for casters,i would say wind though as the nuke will more damage than the other but 6 sec pbt could be useful for a group in rvr but beware it drains mana like mad.
 
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SoulFly Amarok

Guest
Originally posted by old.mattshanes
To be honest it doesn't really matter what spec you go now as all this sc stuff has made it harder for casters.


can I get those mushrooms you're having :confused:
 
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GReaper

Guest
If you're planning on going past level 24 and want to get grouped easily, theres nothing better than an Earth Theurgist. Any group you join (even if gimped a bit), will be far easier to level up in.

However, if you really must go for a uber battleground nuker which you want to take further on, try 22 air and 9 earth at level 24. You can get the 26 earth at level 35 if you leave air at 22.
 
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old.mattshanes

Guest
Originally posted by SoulFly Amarok



can I get those mushrooms you're having :confused:

LOL heh soulfly mainly because most people will have capped magic resists in every element so it will not matter too much really...
 
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Coren

Guest
Originally posted by old.mattshanes


LOL heh soulfly mainly because most people will have capped magic resists in every element so it will not matter too much really...

Sure it will, heavy air nukes vs capped spirit resists will still do more damage and be more offensive than gimpy ice nukes vs capped cold resists. :D
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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Watching Pbuck, Teoz or Sami in action and you realise why air is best ><
 
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old.mattshanes

Guest
Originally posted by Coren


Sure it will, heavy air nukes vs capped spirit resists will still do more damage and be more offensive than gimpy ice nukes vs capped cold resists. :D

That is what i said earlier:eek:
 
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liste

Guest
the mana drain is less important now, though.

With Alchemy, you can get mana potions fairly cheap.
 
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pbuck

Guest
Vs Hib group with warden Earth/ice theurgist>Wind theu
Hibs with warden=50% spirit resist or higher
You nuke random hib for 250(-290) dmg.
So vs such groups ice will hit harder.Same with fire(fire wizards>air theurgists in this case easily)
Vs mids air is probably the best option.
 
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Zogoroth

Guest
Im full (50) Earth and RvR is mostly PBT n buffs with a nuke or two when i get the chance sometimes even a root :)

Pets are nearly worthless since Hib/Mid almost always have some kind of CC n they just root/mez/stun and all u can do is watch the pets timer run out before it even got to the enemy :( but they can be really annoying i always try n put one on casters :)

BUT in 1.59 we get 2000 range and they also becomes immune to CC :D


btw 6s pbt do very nasty things to ur power even with Serenity 3 my power doesnt increase if under 50% unless i sit down or have minstrel in group
 
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j000 d000d

Guest
Sorcerer mana regen buff in 1.59 too.

And there will be much more Sorcerers when that patch arrives :)
 

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