systems specs

[old.PyRoMaNcEr]

I have a 1000Mhz AMD Thunderbird 2, 384mbs of RAM and a 16mb TNT2 3D card. I know i need to upgrade the 3D card but will this work ok if I get the game because I cannot really afford a new 3D card?

 

[--Eraser--]

the graphic card is really the slowest part in your system but maybe its worth a try playing it with the tnt2.
a friend of mine has the same and it works most of the time ok with 800x600 and /effects self.
but for more fun especially in rvr or when you enter a town get you a gforce 2...since the newest generation of gforce they should be cheap now.

-edit-
maybe you can get a used one from ebay
-edit-

 

[old.PyRoMaNcEr]

so what cards do everyone recommend for about £100:
Geeforce 4 MX ?
Geeforce 3 (cheapish one)?
Geeforce 2 (cheapish one)?

 

[Lydek]

Geforce 4 MXs are a big no no, simply a faster clocked GF2 MX called a GF 4 to attract ppl that don't know better to buy them.

They have NONE of the features of the other GF 4s.

The PNY VERTO GEFORCE 3 Ti500 64MB AGP on Aria seems to be such a good deal at £120 inc VAT that I think they typod the price, esp compared to the other GF 3 TI500s on the page

 

[--Eraser--]

Originally posted by Lydek
Geforce 4 MXs are a big no no, simply a faster clocked GF2 MX called a GF 4 to attract ppl that don't know better to buy them.

They have NONE of the features of the other GF 4s.

The PNY VERTO GEFORCE 3 Ti500 64MB AGP on Aria seems to be such a good deal at £120 inc VAT that I think they typod the price, esp compared to the other GF 3 TI500s on the page

thats right they dont have some features, but these features arent that important and will only work with directx 9.0 what is expected to be released end of the year if i am right...
and then there will pass another few month until the first games come out who support those features.
DAoC doesnt need any of these features and doesnt support them!!! for sure.
if you wanna spend so much money go n buy a gforce 4 mx!
they re nearly as fast as a gf4 and much more cheaper.

 

[Lydek]

they re nearly as fast as a gf4 and much more cheaper.

well as shown here they can't even come close to a GF3 Ti 200 in anything using DX8. It can just about keep up in Q3 if you use the right AA mode. A real GF4, even the lowest spec Ti4200 model blows them clean out of the water.

thats right they dont have some features, but these features arent that important and will only work with directx 9.0

No they are also lacking all the features from the GF3 series, pixel shaders and fully programmable TnL for example. These features are part of DX 8 and are in use RIGHT NOW, try looking at the water in Morrowind to see what I mean. Oh yes, Morrowind uses the same engine that DAoC is to be upgraded to (God knows when...), so these features will be important to DAoC too.

 

[--Eraser--]

Originally posted by Lydek


Oh yes, Morrowind uses the same engine that DAoC is to be upgraded to (God knows when...), so these features will be important to DAoC too.

oh i didnt know that...we re getting a new grafic engine? cool!

you may be right mate about that...

still i wouldnt buy a real gf4 now, they are way to expansive and the 1 ghz cpu in his system isnt fast enough anyway for it.

 

[Lydek]

I agree completely, a GF4 is too expensive for anyone apart from the most hardcore gamers... GF3s are a far better buy than the 4mx though

 

[old.job]

Erm I use a voodoo 16mb 3500, I can hear the screams from the hardcore boys, It struggles in tirnog, and doesn't show a shed load of game textures, but works fine most of the time. I bought a Radion 64mb card and its FPS was WORSE than the voodoo.... eh!!!

 

[Lydek]

Did you forget to turn DAoC back from 3dfx mode into normal gfx card mode?

Otherwise all I can say is EH?!

ATI's drivers are interesting at times to say the least

 

[Addlcove]

what contries are you guys living in? GF4 TI4400 isnt expensive at all, in dk I paid 2759,- dkk which is about 30£ is that a lot for a gfx card? not in my opinion and I´m not a hardcore gamer

 

[old.dittytwo]

Originally posted by Bedwin
what contries are you guys living in? GF4 TI4400 isnt expensive at all, in dk I paid 2759,- dkk which is about 30£ is that a lot for a gfx card? not in my opinion and I´m not a hardcore gamer

ok if that was £30 where do i place my order
they are about £178 over here which is using your exchange rate is 16371 dK


where did you get it from again

 

[old.Biffsmash]

Oh yes, Morrowind uses the same engine that DAoC is to be upgraded to (God knows when

- Oh yes, Morrowind uses the same engine that DAoC is to be - upgraded to (God knows when...), so these features will be important to DAoC too ????

If the above quote is correct I am doomed,,. damn screen tear on GeForce 3 with any drivers is an absolute nightmare, and the characters/players/Npc's in the game look incredibly shoddy

Nooooooo ;P

Edit : Think I might be ok, Daoc is using something called netImmerse and Morrowind creators said they were using something similar, possibly called truelight. phew

Btw, I play at work on P2 450 32meg Radeon and it runs barely ok

 

[old.job]

Yeah Lydek, did that didn't make any difference either way, I think buying vid cards is such a lottery, payin money don't guarantee anything, even used regedit to remove every trace of old drivers, sold it to my neighbour and he thinks it's a great card, was a bag of shit on my 1.2 duron, wouldn't even work with the dektop using supplied drivers, had to download new ones in safe mode!!!!! I mean the game looked great but played like slideshow.

 

[old.PyRoMaNcEr]

thanx, i will probably end up with some sort of Geforce 3 cause of the value for money compared to the Geforce 4 MX

woh! why are the prices so cheap on that aria site Lydek posted? Is there something dodgy with the 3D cards? Anyone got any experience with them?

 

[--Eraser--]

Originally posted by Bedwin
what contries are you guys living in? GF4 TI4400 isnt expensive at all, in dk I paid 2759,- dkk which is about 30£ is that a lot for a gfx card? not in my opinion and I´m not a hardcore gamer

nah!
forget it, you made that up

 

[old.mattshanes]

best budget card=geforce 3 ti200.

 

[Icecreamsheep]

Ive got a T'Bird 1300, 512Mb RAM and a GF2 card. DAoC is currently running fine on my system. The GF2 card however did cost me £305 when i brought it (I brought it the day they came out :$). The GF4 cards ive been eyeing up (the Ti4600 mainly) i have to agree are a rediculous price at the moment, but when they start coming down i plan on getting one.

As for ATi cards did you remove all the drivers for your previous card?, I tried to run an ATi card the once and its performance was appaling until i removed all the old card drivers and tried again, then its performance did pick up.

As for the new engine, i have to admit from what ive heard the engine does sound like its got some promise, but does anyone know of any screen shots form any games using the netimerse 4.1 engine?

Sheepy

 

[LGAlien]

Which do you think i should upgrade?
tnt2 64mb to a GFx or add a extra 1.3ghz pIII (already have 1 pIII 1ghz) to my dual motherboard I have win2k so i can run 2 processors? they both cost about the same to upgrade (£150) but i only got enough for one!

 

[dittytwo]

Originally posted by LGAlien
Which do you think i should upgrade?
tnt2 64mb to a GFx or add a extra 1.3ghz pIII to my dual motherboard? they both cost about the same to upgrade (£150) but i only got enough for one!

mmmm that is a difficult question my personel oppinion is that the only game that can make use of the dual proccessors is Q3 DAoC cannot (at the moment do that) so i personelly would either save up more and get a faster mobo and chip (by the time you have saved up for that the GF4 will be cheap ) or go straight for the GF4 or wait a couple of months for the GF5 which will utilise DirectX 9 (loads of flashy stuff in that) and then buy the GF4 as it will be cheap

personnely i would not get the second processor it is not worth the hassel, i have a dual board at home just sat there with only one pIII 1Ghz chip in it (still waiting for the prices to drop to £30 (will never happen))

that is my opinion

 

[LGAlien]

Well since i mostly play Moh which uses the q3 engine it should be able to take advantage of the dual processor then

 

[dittytwo]

Originally posted by LGAlien
Well since i mostly play Moh which uses the q3 engine it should be able to take advantage of the dual processor then

hello LGalien
not totaly sure if that game has it turned on
as it is a coding thing and not just the Q3 engine....
best read up and see....
if it does then buy yet as long as you have windows 2000 or NT (or the Unix equivelent) on your machine then it will not be a problem as the system has to detect that you have dual procesors 95 and 98 do not offer support for it

 

[Lydek]

Multi processor support in Q3 was very flakey and offered little real peformance gain last time I looked at it...

I don't think a 64Mb TNT2 was ever made.... do you mean a TNT2 M64? If so, definitely upgrade the video card, that was one crippled card even when new.

Been away from this topic for a while, but yes I use Aria for pretty much all the computer stuff I buy. Good prices and a pretty decent RMA service too... certainly better than Dabs for example

 

[old.mattshanes]

i got a geforce 4 ti4400 and they r dam good

 

[Damon_D]

Well what ever you do dont by an MX they stink , a friend of mine bought one , against my advice , and he hates it and admites it was waste of money , use the card you have for a little while , and save the money to get a G4 ti 4200 , they will be the best card for the price , nothing can match the performence versus price on these

Using a G4 ti4600 with 128 mb myself