Suggestion of fixing albion cc abilities...

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old.Leel

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...and making paladins viable for rvr at the same time:)

Give paladins the same ae mez that light eldritches have, and also the same castable stun that hib casters have. Whaddaya think? Should even things out a bit:)
 
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Negura`

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I think there are a few wannabe Karams emerging.....
 
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old.BJ|Bored

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replace alb casters root with a 9sec stun, and give same ae ability to healer/cleric/bard

;p
 
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old.Leel

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Lol, Negura? What's up with that reply? I didn't get it:)
 
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Cloak_

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So,, Albs Have 3 classes with mezz (Sorc/Minstrel and Cleric) (cleric obviously pb but have castable stun) and you want to have ANOTHER mezzing class??????????
 
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Eblessair

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fixing?
nothing is broken, you simply dont have enough devoted sorcerers to do your job.

employ more, and you will do fine.

you have a class that can dd, heal, stun, mez, and buff.
you have a class that can hit for 1000+ in one hit
you have a class that can one-shot a lvl50 standing drood


you cant have everything.......
 
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old.Odysseus

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you have a class that can one-shot a lvl50 standing drood
which class might that be? nothing i have seen does more than 1200 damage, barely enuf to kill me - certainly not if im buffed (which i presume dr00ds have a fairly good chance at being).

you have a class that can hit for 1000+ in one hit
Hit a blue ranger for 926 today, that was a good shot. Never hit even con (not even cloth casters) for my cap - happened once on tylar i think.

you have a class that can dd, heal, stun, mez, and buff
that being the clerics-which-are-to-be-nerfed, stun is low range and mezz is pbaoe.


Albs Have 3 classes with mezz (Sorc/Minstrel and Cleric)
first is good, 2. is single target, 3. is pbaoe.
air theurgs have same as sorc, though half duration and lower range.

I might compare any of these classes' cc-abilities to those of a healer, but thats too easy.
I might also compare to the cc-abilities of a bard after the insta-mez patch .. but again too easy.

Albs cc-abilities are far inferior to those of the other ralms, that is a fact that cannot be questioned.

One question that arises is: what does alb have to remedy that defeciency?
-Numbers for one.
-Non-versatile classes, very specialized in their field and trained at just that in pve.
-Im off, make up more stuff till tomorrow.
 
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Falcor

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Get rid of everything but tanks....then rvr would be fun....simply but effective =)

oh and by tanks i mean things that dont have stupid magical stuff aswell.....no paladins =)
 
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hotrat

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haha 9 sec ranged stun on pala's, what they gonna do after they stun, rez a few ppl, perhaps taunt the stunned person a few times :)

Yep alb has most gimped mezzer's, would much prefer 2 decent mezzers than one weak decent mezzer and 3 gimped ones.
 
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Danya

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What makes albion different is lack of a ranged insta ae mez. Not a lot you can do to combat that really.
 
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Northstarr

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i dont think many of u noticed that the poster is a mid taking the piss
/em points at signiture
 
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zilch

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My main is a Bard and in a few patchs when ALL forms of mezz are nerfed I will be almost compleatly useless....... yes yes i will have crappy heals but my only thing to offer will be my speed song........

Mythic dont actually seem to like the idea of mezz and have made it compleatly useless compared to what it is now....... Resists/RA's/Duration droping on outer radius/Cheapening of Purge etc have ment the thing my class does best is now basically useless.

Paladins cant just have a mezz...... Theurgists get the Light elds mezz in there air line anyway and if oyu read teh patch notes for 1.53 paladins get alot of help...... Endurance regen being my most hated.

OMG im a fool....... just wrote that and realised you are joking :/ lol anyway ill post so you can all laugh
 
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wolvon fury

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Get rid of instant AEMez and Stun

I thing any spells that are instant and Area Of Effect of stupid,

A spell with effect to stop a whole army in its traps, should have to be casted,

Instant AE = fuck up game
 
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belth

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Originally posted by zilch
My main is a Bard and in a few patchs when ALL forms of mezz are nerfed I will be almost compleatly useless....... yes yes i will have crappy heals but my only thing to offer will be my speed song........

Mythic dont actually seem to like the idea of mezz and have made it compleatly useless compared to what it is now....... Resists/RA's/Duration droping on outer radius/Cheapening of Purge etc have ment the thing my class does best is now basically useless.

Paladins cant just have a mezz...... Theurgists get the Light elds mezz in there air line anyway and if oyu read teh patch notes for 1.53 paladins get alot of help...... Endurance regen being my most hated.

OMG im a fool....... just wrote that and realised you are joking :/ lol anyway ill post so you can all laugh

Completely useless? Speed song, end regen song, heal, rez, insta ranged aoe mezz in next patch...

Both Albion and Midgard have lacked end regen until 1.53. Only fair they gave it to us. Now, if they'd just give HoT spells and insta-aoe-mezz to Albion and removed castable stuns (insta ones too) from the game... And no, heal chant isn't HoT per sé, doesn't work out of combat and it heals for measly amounts compared to Friggs for instance.
 
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[DK]hakke

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all i want is 11-sec aoe-mess alá healer on our 2nd most played char.
 
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Glottis_Xanadu

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All I care for is that instant aoe anything sucks...
All rvr is getting in to mezz or stun, then slaughter...
And it looks like Albs are the only ones who do not have that :)
Regards, Glottis
 
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Negura`

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Leel : if you dont know karam then forget it :p

If you do - i was remarking that the guy who posted the one before me is a wannabe karam :clap:

Regards

Negura
 
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old.Leel

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Ah, yes, I know who karam is, but I didn't know who you were referring to as a wannabe karam, me or that other guy.

And yes, I know that paladins are getting end regen and I think it sucks. Mid is also getting pbaoe. Next will be that hib and alb get ae stun, and that's kinda scary to be on the receiving end of:-P
It also makes the realms more similar, whereas there SHOULD be differences.

Anyway, I wasn't really joking about giving all that stuff to paladins, maybe just give'em the stun, they could use something like that.

Oh, and I do believe that all forms CC instas should be removed from the game, including root. And yes, I say this playing a healer, the most powerful crowd controller in the whole game.
Because I've seen what I can do. It ain't pretty:-P
 
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Eblessair

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Ody: ive been one-shotted by an infil, while buffed
thats around 1600hp in one hit.
 
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belth

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Originally posted by Eblessair
Ody: ive been one-shotted by an infil, while buffed
thats around 1600hp in one hit.

Let's see...

Crits in PvP... 1%-50%... Infil PA cap... Maybe 750-760 IF slow weapon... Offhander hit... Hmm, 100? Procs? On off-hand maybe... Tick of Lifebane... 80...

Adds up to 750+375+100+50+90+80=1445. Oh wait, that's approx maximum! Looks like you weren't wearing armor, cause that's the only way to cap on PA while a lvl50 is standing.

Only SB could do that but you still HAD to be without armor at some slot.
 
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Tranquil-

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The only thing that really bugs me is the Castable baseline stun all hib casters get. And perhaps the grouppurge in the realm with the best CC.
 
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old.Odysseus

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Ody: ive been one-shotted by an infil, while buffed

Sorry forgot the assassins....
Quite frankly I dont see how this gives Alb have an advantadge over the other 2 realms, as midgard has the hardest hitting assassin (PA-wise).

Besides that, yes I find that all assassins should feel the nerfbat ;)

Last night, DK went on a guildtrip, we had 1.5 fg, went to odins.
Twice we got owned by hib group of equal to 1.5 our size - why? Cuz we were all mezzed.
We had a sorc with us, but 1 sorc dont measure up against 2-3 bards, some eldricths and shit. We were outgunned 4-1 CC-wise.
Then we went emain and totally owned a mid group of equal size - after we shook the instamez.

Note that Im not saying that hib is overpowered in general compared to alb, im just saying that their cc is vastly superior.
 
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old.Atrophy

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why do albs need Cc ffs you are the damn crowd not as if you need to mezz your self :p
 

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