Stop the Difference

svartalf

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Reposted off VNboards, Skalded found this damning evidence;

http://vnboards.ign.com/Fans_Round_Table/b5176/74188276/?10

Nightshade TL:

Decoy
Extremely unconvincing with their names displaying <Race> <Realm Rank> in the target window, they’re ignored now in even large-scale fights where they’re suppose to serve as a temporary distraction. Random name generation and changing armor to be PC crafted of random color and/or ToA armor would help improve this ML.

No changes planned - Design Decision

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INF TL:

· Decoy believability would benefit from random name generation and red name labeling

Under Investigation

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Nightshade TL

Keep Climbpoints
Keeps have fewer climbpoints than in OF, and yet are larger than keeps in OF. As a result, it is easy for an enemy to control climbpoints by placing 1-2 NPC Assassin guards or P.Node near the climbpoint.

No changes planned at this time - Design Decision

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INF TL

Climbpoints
-The keeps in new frontiers are bigger than before yet they have fewer climb points.
-There are no climbpoints on towers on central keeps (which may incorporate other measures to keep stealthers out of the lord room).
-Climb points are not well marked for recognition.
-Climbing through murder holes is problematic in lag.
-Climbing period is problematic in heavy lag.

All climb issues being investigated.
 

Shanaia

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Paranoid

All it shows is that 2 different people probably replied to the different tl-reports ... 1 went to the people that make the decisions and asked if it would be changed .. and got an answer .. the other planned to do so (he was going to "investigate" it) and didn't get around to it before submitting the answer.

Whine when Infils get more climbpoints and when only infil decoys change as suggested .. this proofs nothing
 

frogster

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I cant see which report was sent to Mythic first, did i miss it? :eek:

Lets Roleplay a little...

Nightshade TL sends in report..

Mythic say "Nay, thats the way we implemented it*! <*insert optional kin here>

Infeh TL sends in report with same problem areas

Mythic say "Hmm, two TL's reporting the same problem.. perhaps there is a problem and we should investigate after all!"

Whineboards "OMG WE GOT PWND BY FAVOURITISM MEIGHTS!!!!"

Of course, im an alb, so im bound to take this POV and see its logic........
 

svartalf

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I don't care whether the changes affect everybody differently, what I don't get is the mindset. When Nightshade asks for things it's a case of not bothering to check whether they "planned to do so (he was going to "investigate" it)" or not, it's a case of "NO!", whereas when Infiltrator asks, the response is typical of Mr. Micawber. ... 'Umble we are, 'umble we have been, 'umble we shall ever be. There seems to be more evidence pro this point of view than against it.
 

Driwen

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Shanaia said:
Paranoid

All it shows is that 2 different people probably replied to the different tl-reports ... 1 went to the people that make the decisions and asked if it would be changed .. and got an answer .. the other planned to do so (he was going to "investigate" it) and didn't get around to it before submitting the answer.

Whine when Infils get more climbpoints and when only infil decoys change as suggested .. this proofs nothing

afaik there is only one person who responds to the reports though and that is the TL coordinator.

However the explanation that, because a second tl mentioned it (the infil in this case), he reconsidered it is the most likely one.
 

Brite

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CABBY TL

Nerfs
-If we whine enough can we have chain stunning pets from 1500 range back please

Yes - Design Decision

INF TL

Nerfs
-Can we have the old dragon fang back please cos i miss it and my m8s who rolled a scout is getting loads of rps and the necro who pl my inf to 50 quit cos of toa :(

Yes - Bug Fix

compare alb TL report to hib / mid and see the difference.... see the animist TL report... thats sickening.... hi our bomers and useless in keeps... yeh we will look into it.... cba
 

Zorewin

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hahaha pwned?? you go and try to play a mincer with a lvl 59 pet see how hard it is, twat
 
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Melachi

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Ok first of all I think all this 'alb favortism' is foolish. People think stupid mistakes like these are so sinister.

What I take from all this, is that the TL program is infact terribly flawed. It seems Mythic dont have any plan for this game, they cant decide on things which means theres no direction.

All this proves is once again, Mythic dont have a clue. Nothing sinister, just idiocy.
 

Morchaoron

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there should be like 9 people at mythic playing daoc 80 hours a week or more (3 alb, 3 hib, 3 mid) and use them for feedback, cuz mythic doesnt know jackshit about their own game...
 

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<rant>
It's not that it's a singular 'Stupid mistake'. it's about three years worth of these stupid mistakes that lead up to where we are right now.

RvR on the US Servers is close to collapse and only NOW is Mythic fixing things. Or so they claim.. what they are actually doing is making levelling in the other realms easier.. and that that will fix absolutely NOTHING.

Why move when you have your stuff all set in Alb? People will quit rather than reroll to another realm in the numbers needed to fix this abysmal screwup. :) I sure as hell wouldn't move to another realm if for some obscure reason Midgard was overpowered and overpopulated, if I didn't get my time investment returned to me in another realm on a 1-on-1 basis. Too much time invested in my characters on Midgard.

Mythic screwed up in galactic proportions with NF and now have a problem on their laps they cannot solve easily.
</rant>
 

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Morchaoron said:
there should be like 9 people at mythic playing daoc 80 hours a week or more (3 alb, 3 hib, 3 mid) and use them for feedback, cuz mythic doesnt know jackshit about their own game...

i'll apply right now !!
 

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Morchaoron said:
there should be like 9 people at mythic playing daoc 80 hours a week or more (3 alb, 3 hib, 3 mid) and use them for feedback, cuz mythic doesnt know jackshit about their own game...


hmmm though its a nice idea.... i dont think its legal viable coz 80 hrs a week infront of a computer ISNT healthy, yeh most people here play ALOT and have fun doing it, but on the legal side i dont think ur allowed 2 say "uve got 2 spend half ur week playing daoc and then report 2 us everything that needs fixing" (24x7). sure people r gunna say "but he likes 2 play daoc, its a dream job" but its not healthy :) (80 hrs playing/working, and time 2 report everything etc... not 2 mention im sure theres ment 2 b sum sort of legal issue where after working x amount of hours at the computer u have y amount of minutes break). yeh its a nice idea, but wont work i dont think, what they could do though, is think "what would happen if we did this?" :p
 

Morchaoron

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Darksword said:
hmmm though its a nice idea.... i dont think its legal viable coz 80 hrs a week infront of a computer ISNT healthy, yeh most people here play ALOT and have fun doing it, but on the legal side i dont think ur allowed 2 say "uve got 2 spend half ur week playing daoc and then report 2 us everything that needs fixing" (24x7). sure people r gunna say "but he likes 2 play daoc, its a dream job" but its not healthy :) (80 hrs playing/working, and time 2 report everything etc... not 2 mention im sure theres ment 2 b sum sort of legal issue where after working x amount of hours at the computer u have y amount of minutes break). yeh its a nice idea, but wont work i dont think, what they could do though, is think "what would happen if we did this?" :p

alright... hire ultra daoc freaks then who will work legally full-time at the mythic HQ as gamers and probably will play some more when they get home....

these guys should also switch accounts once in a while, so they will see it from all perspectives....
 

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Darksword said:
hmmm though its a nice idea.... i dont think its legal viable coz 80 hrs a week infront of a computer ISNT healthy, yeh most people here play ALOT and have fun doing it, but on the legal side i dont think ur allowed 2 say "uve got 2 spend half ur week playing daoc and then report 2 us everything that needs fixing" (24x7). sure people r gunna say "but he likes 2 play daoc, its a dream job" but its not healthy :) (80 hrs playing/working, and time 2 report everything etc... not 2 mention im sure theres ment 2 b sum sort of legal issue where after working x amount of hours at the computer u have y amount of minutes break). yeh its a nice idea, but wont work i dont think, what they could do though, is think "what would happen if we did this?" :p

its not illegal, you can work more than 60 hours a week if you sign a certain form in the UK.
 

Herbal

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Brite said:
CABBY TL

Nerfs
-If we whine enough can we have chain stunning pets from 1500 range back please

Yes - Design Decision

INF TL

Nerfs
-Can we have the old dragon fang back please cos i miss it and my m8s who rolled a scout is getting loads of rps and the necro who pl my inf to 50 quit cos of toa :(

Yes - Bug Fix

compare alb TL report to hib / mid and see the difference.... see the animist TL report... thats sickening.... hi our bomers and useless in keeps... yeh we will look into it.... cba
Go read 3 years of wizard tl report replies from mythic then realise what u just said is utter tripe kthnx
 

Balbor

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Brite said:
compare alb TL report to hib / mid and see the difference.... see the animist TL report... thats sickening.... hi our bomers and useless in keeps... yeh we will look into it.... cba

they should of put

'that'll learn ya for abusing ya turrets at keeps, you want us to make ya turret pets require LOS to cast??? well stfu then'
 

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Conspiracy theory! Alien masterminds are controlling Mythic HQ and are conducting twisted human psychological tests through DAoC! Get out while you still can!
 

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