stealther wars

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spathi

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Hi,

Recently in battlegrounds with my infiltrator alt, Cutt, i have fought many stealthers, most of them suck. However, there are two who have almost killed me in a fair 1vs1. An elf called Sebulaz and a kobbie called Onekill. Had some really fun fights guys and hope to continue to do so, got another 150pts or so to cap :D , was cool when Seb and I teamed up just randomly after a lot of clapping, waving and pointing :D ... had to be careful with F8 tho :eek:

Cutt is my stress relief character, mainly to kill luris for revenge for the times my sorc has been ganked by them, and i crafted myself some armour and weapons and SCed the lot myself too.

Wondering if either of you two or any other stealthers have put in the effort for bg? These are my total bonuses from armour/weapons from leladias on mp lvl 25 leather, 2 99% fine alloy long dirks and a couple of unique si drops with some random stats :

Stats:
Str: 32 Int: 0 Hits: 79
Con: 32 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 36 Cha: 0
Qui: 27 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 10 Energy: 8 Crush: 10
Cold: 12 Matter: 9 Thrust: 10
Heat: 12 Spirit: 3 Slash: 12

Skills:
6 Critical Strike 4 Dual Wield
5 Stealth 4 Thrust


and my spec : 19+5 stealth 21+5 cs 18+4 thrust 7+4 DW 15 Env 15 [nb. i am getting some cloth boots with +5 env on them made so i can use greater lethal poison, should make a bit of difference ;)]

Hope this explains how I havent lost a one-on-one yet, even when seb got his backstab off on me when i was chatting on IRC :D and if you would like to challenge me, i normally camp hib ruins for lonely luris...
 
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spathi

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rar sig isnt showing up :\

[edit: /slap Spathi]
 
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swords

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max CS is +5 you only have +4 DW and Thrust.

+80 hits is the cap your one off.
13 is th max resists its possible to cap everything with a sc's suit.

apart from that it looks like my infils sc'd suit and he rocks in BG's when i cba to play him.
Swords had Sc'd armour too but that would be telling :)
 
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old.tuppe

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dam there is alott points :) look like those xtra helps some way.
dont play in thid many/many days whit my sb but indeed those cs hits kill Rhoaw if succesfull, if start melee whit my sz? rare inf so far killed me, same goes whit ns.

btw one more question, are you usually fully buffed? and why not? so many albs rolling around its easy get buffs.
pah, try be more there, sadly cap is getting closer, and never been in group.
 
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Aurorax

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Soz cutt, I got sliced by you several times, I'm a noob stealther, I admit it :D (Name : Synister) Hope to see you around in thidranki, I WILL have my revenge >=)
 
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old.TeaSpoon

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I got my whole lot spellcrafted, all AF50 99% leather and 2 99% FA jambies and a bastard sword :)

Goes a little something like this:

Stats:
Str: 35 Int: 0 Hits: 94
Con: 34 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 37 Cha: 0
Qui: 35 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 10 Energy: 0 Crush: 0
Cold: 0 Matter: 3 Thrust: 0
Heat: 0 Spirit: 0 Slash: 10

Skills:
5 Critical Strike 5 Envenom
5 Slash 5 Stealth

Matching my 19+ Stealth, 21+5 CS, 13+5 Slash, 20+5 Env and 2 DW :)
 
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spathi

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Hmm i usually try to beg a dex/qui and str/con spec buffs if i can find a cleric, so i would say i am half-buffed about 40% of the time. (dont have a bot). Plus, after playing 2 tanks in battlegrounds recently, i tend to gank a caster at the back of a group and then my instinct just tells me to gank another one, so instead of running off and living i get suicide and get two of them... :p tends to mean i am rezsick about 20% of the time too :) and of course you cant be healed while stealthed so if you see me sitting down on half health behind a tree, be kind and wave at me and we will have a fair fight :D
 
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old.ivan

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Wouldnt be too concerned about not following your instinct :)

Most Stealthers do not make it out alive after killing a mage in a group ... commonly known fact in Thidranki.
 
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solkhanar-pjo

Guest
Hiya Cutt, it was a pleasant meeting indeed.
Sorry if i began attacking you without you knowing i /beckoned but i let you live.

These are my spec and spellcrafted gear:
19(+5) Stealth
18(+5) Blades
10(+5) Critical Strike
6 (+4) Celtic Dual
20(+5) Envenom

I have a total of +30 str / + 30 con / + 30 dex.
I have a total of 13% Crush/15% Slash/16%Thrust/12%Body/14%Spirit/10%Cold.
I have a total of +56 Hits.

As you can see i went for alot of melee-resists and body ( Stealther's DoT ) to make me survive longer. As an Elf you get a base of 40con, which is utter bollocks imo. That's why i put alot in +con and +hits. I now have 523 hp unbuffed, and 610 buffed.

I don't know if i can gain more HP but i was being buffed by a druid, didn't know how much he had in the buff-line.

I went for the 10 Critical strike to, 1) Crack the bubble of casters and then split it and let the DoT do it's part. 2) To make it even easier to kill targets with that nice 3 seconds stun. You all probably know the effect of 25 Envenom so i won't need to explain it ;)

Now about the two fights we had.. :)

The first fight you were at 95% and i was stealthed.. you ran through me so i used stick and started with a BS2. Then after you killed me, i noticed i didn't put any DoT/Snare on my weapons.. i am not saying i would have owned you if i did, but 36x10 is alot of damage.. I must say you are the toughest inf i met in there ( only been there 3 days or so but still.. ) compaired to the other one that popped. Simson or something he was called. He went down pretty fast, though i don't understand why people don't move during a battle but just /stick and pound their garrote :(
I always run through peeps just after i hit him/her and then use stick to do it again and again while she gets 'Your target is not in view'.

The second battle was quite fun and it was a tough battle for both of us. When i had around 40% and you had around 25% left i ran away because i didn't want you to die. ( She looks soooo cute in that red/black outfit /kiss )

I hope we can duel again sometime, i'll watch the kill spam and ask where you were, stay somewhere near that spot and i'll come looking for you :)

I only have 3x rps at the moment but i don't want to cap in a few days..

Cheers,

Sebulaz Athriel. :)
 
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swords

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Regis my inf has the following config:

Stealth 19+5
CS 21+5
Envenom 20+5
Slash 15+5
DW 5+5

STR
CON
DEX
QUI all capped

Slash Thrust Body Cold all capped

i auto trained stealth to get DW up a few more points and it does help a bit.

Swords mk3 had the following before he capped :/

Stealth 19+5
CS 21+5
Axe 19+5
Envenom 9+5 (ninja swaping for the venom)

STR
CON capped

Slash Thrust Cold Matter Spirit capped with a bit of heat and the rest :)
 
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SilverHood

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Seems a bit like overkill tbh
Magic resists for a stealther aint that handy (excpet matter, spirit and body), though melee resists are nice.
I mean, if a firewiz snarts nuking you, you can be almost 100% certain he ain't alone, and you're dead anyway.
 
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solkhanar-pjo

Guest
That's why i am God and Swords aint ^^
 
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solkhanar-pjo

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That's why i am God and Swords aint ^^
 
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solkhanar-pjo

Guest
Do'h.. 103 rps, logged off for today.

By the way, can someone tell Miinx ( Inf ) that she must wait next time she perfs me.. it's not nice when i just killed a hunter to perf me right away, GIFV Ph4ir Du3lzZ~!1 :(
 
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leviathane

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mate tht sucks 18+4 thrust infys in bg own more with slash, ive tested it and found it to be very true. plus u need proccing weps and maxed stats :m00: then you'll come close to my infy
 
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spathi

Guest
hi

gotta admit guys its getting a bit wierd, made peace with like 3 different hib stealthers atm, and i have been hestitating before striking... it nearly got me killed ;)

lets make this clear - although we can make peace and have duels etc, in a situation where i see an elf / luri/ kobbie / norse stealther, i am gonna PA you if i can, and i expect you to do the same. [If i find out its you Seb i will probably stop killing you ;)]

(so basically this is a message for seb, perf a saracen if you see one, and if its me i will beat you anyway so dont worry, strike first, think later)
 
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solkhanar-pjo

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1) I can't PA :)
2) I don't mind dying.
And i will always try to get an inf, but when you shake your hips, Cutt, i just can't possible push #1 :)

..what i hate about Thidranki is things like this..
There is battle about to start between mids and albs, so i move closer to the mid-zerg to pick one out. Then in all of a sudden i see a SB, this was far away from the zerg so i decided to move in closer, then 3 other sb's pop up ( Trublu, Tokahoshi and Xevolina ). Why do SBs even group up with other shades? If well played they are the best shade class there is with their Left Axe.

I also wanted to /salute Renata for just being to strong for me. Ok, she uses the Left Axe combo, but still she killed me twice and i didn't even kill her once.

Cheers
 
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swords

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aah thats the one i couldnt remember, Body.
I capped that on the principal that venoms from those bloody annoying infs and NS's who uncover me near a zerg.

I didn't even bother capping Dex and Qui because i wasnt realy going for the LA zerker style beat to death in 3 hits.
One hit for me thankyou very much then leg it :)

and the resists did help those times i was being nuked whilst running away, meant they had to nuke me an extra time or two which meant i could escape if lucky.
 
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shadowmonkey

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I hardly ever group mate. I have grouped some and so have you. But if I see fellow mid fighting someone I jump in for aid. And thats exactly what happened today if you referring to that fight?Sorry if you feel that its unfair. K, not really.

Im sz.You can see me coming from miles away, because my stealth is really really low. Kinda watered down Berserker with envenom. Im autoing stealth to 40 because Im going to play this char past bg's. Im going to be 5spec at 50.

Trublu is my highest char at this server and my gear is quested and storebought, with few gifts from fellow mids../cheer to all who have helped me with gear! Much appreciated.
I dont have money to buy SC suit or weapons, nor I have candy daddy giving me any. But yes, Im buffed by my other char Trublus (21 shaman) . I havent had chance to meet Cutt 1v1 yet..been killed by her couple times at zerg fights. I know I know, mids zerk albs zerk and sometimes even hibs zerk. Anyway, if I would have wanted to make mage owning assassin at Thid, I would have gone critway and got myself mourning rage (spd 6.2 or 6.4 if i remem right) I cant oneshot anything, but my wepskill and poison shines on 1v1. Allthough im having hard time finding anyone alone.
I came from Bedevere US server to here because time zones and better ping and Im in hurry to get to 50, so back to lvling for me after I cap out.

Im about 20 rps from cap and would really like to try duel againts you guys. prolly take dirt nap but it isnt such a big deal for me. I knew when I hit 24 that I would be bit gimped againts other assassins due to my low stealth. Tomorrow will be my last day at Thid and if you want 1v1 againts me, beckon. I know you can see me)

if not, I see you at emain in month or so and then, its not so easy to spot me!


Trublu ShadowMonkey (SZ24)
Trublus Littlehelper (21shamandabot)
 
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shadowmonkey

Guest
Yes,
not everyone enjoys that little sandbox so much that they wanna stay there long. I used bot to get pre regs for mop as fast as I could plus i took lil break from grind. Like I said before i didnt create my char for BG's.

I could say same to you:

Twinks at Thid, dear oh dear.
But whatever. When Trublu gets high enough Im gonna make twink there too. Then I can write at BW forums with patronizing tone too and we all be happy. Sun is shining, what a beautifull day. I think Ill go take a stroll outside.

Trublu Shadowmonkey (sz24)
Trublus Littlehelper (21shamandabot)

EDIT: added that sun is shining part, because its true.
 
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old.TeaSpoon

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Oh dear...why is everyone around here so hostile? :)

I thought Shadowblades came with buffbots anyway :D

(Sorry, couldn't resist)
 
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shadowmonkey

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Yup,

Anyways just capped out from Thid few hours ago, (thx Yoan)
and I be leaving you now, so one less botted grouping sb you have to worry about. So back to grind for me, and ding 25.Bot dinged 22 too ! guess which line im spending his points at...
Special thanks for Casper the necro for /wave spam fun we had other day. I knew everyone could see through my crappy stealth..
See u at frontier in month if everything goes as planned.

bu bye,

Trublu ShadowMonkey (SZ25)
Trublus Littlehelper (22shamandabot)
 
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omi

Guest
/wave @ Cutt - my twin infil lol.

Has been fun teaming in Thid :p
 
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old.tuppe

Guest
Rhoawen is hardly never buffed,
twinked yes because use drops i have get from my 50´s.
axes is sadly low yellos :(
no buffbott, dunno in future but only for "big" rvr.

Sebulas indeed is intresting, fight once against him and killed me, dunno what kind trick used :) maybe add new poison in end fight?
he was very low in health too, but good fight!
one other mid yell to me little earlier in other fight, dont kill Seb but was late, when start press buttons its hard end suddenly.
dunno why he laugh to me end this fight?

well, dont remember so good stats but near like this.
st 17 +5
env 13 +5
laxe 22 or 23? +2 or 3?
axe 19 +5
cs 4 +2 :) used only 1 time so far.

axes are otd and 100% qual, speed 2.7 sec and other 3 sec, best solution offcourse craft slow and fast axes, sc them for procs and some + to axes.
armour is webbed and some unique drops.
 
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solkhanar-pjo

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I only laugh at people when they do something that's funny, don't get me wrong. And almost every time i will /kiss after combat.

About the 'trick' i used.. try it in a duel first tho ( check your skills with it ). As you probably know you almost miss every swing if you strafe, use /stick to beat the enemy even easier.
This is how it goes:

-You do your first move lets say Garrote.
-You push the 'garrote-button' so it will say [/you're preparing to do your garrote]
-You run right through your character ( don't strafe aswell ) and use stick when you are through him.
-You will garrote him again, now he will get ( when he does his move ) [/your target is not in view]..

This might be lame iyo but imo it isn't, it's a great way not to loose to many battles vs. stronger opponents. I think you will have 2/3 swings extra that he misses and you hit, this should be enough to win the duel. About my envenom, i use DoT + Snare, my DoT is just very high ( 25 env ) but that's all..
I only re-poison my blades when i am kiting an Armsman/Zerker else i will just go into melee right away.

Cheers,

Seb.
 
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saijan_WarLord

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+34 dex/str/con
+10quick
13% slash/thrust/crush
+5 Two-Handed
+5 Slash
+5 Parry
+100 hitts
thats Dowan, not sure about my wizz.

oh and Sebulaz, you must really suck, since you have to do stuff like that to beat tanks, a strong qui/dex + your high envenom makes you evade a load and your low dmg meele + high dmg poison should do the trick...
 
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solkhanar-pjo

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698 unbuffed..

Dowan: [/oh and Sebulaz, you must really suck, since you have to do stuff like that to beat tanks, a strong qui/dex + your high envenom makes you evade a load and your low dmg meele + high dmg poison should do the trick...]

Dowan: [/698 unbuffed]

Ok..

I have 523 hps..

Now how the hell could i kill you without kiting?

Cheers :eek:
 

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