stealth is xiit

[odjinn]

yeh u heared me. stealth = xiit

we poor kobolts or runemasters dont have a chance against coward stealthers, even if the besky backstabber misses, we still dont have much of a chance if they dont get scared and run. of course u can always quickroot or something but u often get too surprised to do that. fend? hmmz dont work against criticals ;(

ok so u backstabbing ppl may need some help in order to kill, but i mean we dont have a chance, we dont even have a chance to spot u until u attack. noooot fair.

and hunter dudes? same thing, except the fend works sometimes here. as i often sneak in BG, hiding behind trees/water and similar, wearing not so bright clothes, could not a hunter do that? always that pesky stealth. dont think that ability is necassary for a hunter to frag. not when they have the arrowrange that they have.

 

[Cerverloc]

OMG!!!! Now runies start whining?? Your freakin overpowered with your super long range and super powerful bolts. You cast nearsight across the end of the globe and you start whining you get backstabbed once in a while. Tough luck mate. Tough luck. Get used to it coz if you don't get backstabbed I'll sure will shoot you.

 

[- Pathfinder -]

LoL, the most overpowered spellcaster in the game moans abut being killed by stealthers

 

[Sharp Thing]

the assasin was made to kill casters, atleast, thats what mythic tried (obviously faild in allot of other points )

 

[odjinn]

yeh i know its cuz of balacing the classes, just wanted u to feel a bit sorry for me

 

[- Pathfinder -]

The day RMs stop oneshotting casters and RP farm with their AE; I might feel sorry for them Then aagin, having died several times to RMs exploiting the root bug, I don't really care for them

 

[odjinn]

well dont be angry at me, ive done none of the mentioned things.. yet :O

 

[starblade]

just wanted u to feel a bit sorry for me

Come wear some plate and experience my point of view before uttering more of this nonsense

Just for a post like that, I will unleash my Cow of Eternal Fury upon you ....... "Go get him Bella"

 

[old.Saborion]

Root bug?

 

[hank_mongbat]

I Fear no one.

Stealthers or Rms.

Ill still charge at you and cut you down either way, or die trying which is what happens most of the time!

 

[- Pathfinder -]

Root bug = rooting not being on a timer (which AFAIK is fixed in this version, havn't encountered a RM 1on1 since we patched).

Basically a RM would go nearsight, nuke, root, run off, nuke, root, repeat. And no, you are not supposed to be able to root someone indeinetely, just as you aren't supposed to be able to mez/stun someone indefinetely

 

[Whandall]

Lucky you od i missed my pa yesterday but hey - next time then

Ohh and you found out how weak we are when we get unstealthed...you nearly killed me with your blasts. I dunno what happened or why hammer did not chase me. I think an Infi appeared right?

 

[old.Runolas]

Originally posted by odjinn
yeh u heared me. stealth = xiit


ok so u backstabbing ppl may need some help in order to kill, but i mean we dont have a chance, we dont even have a chance to spot u until u attack. noooot fair.

A small tips…

If you get a grp and take in an assassin you will survive m8. Try sneaking up while Iziz/Mallus is around…one dead SB. That is the key to the issue with assassins, if you do this they will have a hard time killing casters, but luckily many assassins (for me) decides to probe the enemy line, scout or simply kill in the rear echelons.

And last…I don’t feel sry for you, casters are my bunching bags…always has, always will.

 

[old.[NP]Slim]

hehe, RMs can kill any archer imo, or at least save their ass if he pay attention in rvr. BR saves u from first shot, then u can just quickcast root or n00k the archer. Especially vs scouts with slow azz bowz. Try using /face Assassint r a problem tho

 

[odjinn]

omg Whandall u little #%#%

u got some ppl round the keep so i started to do a bit hunting from the water , and yeah saw u, bolted some, then u ran a bit, and in the midle of confusion another dude appeared, this time a blue one, so killed him instead

think hammer went after him aswell. gonna lvl to 35 asap then i think u will see more from me

 

[Whandall]

Haha i hope so - and if i give you a friendly wave i expect you to leave your mates and sit down somewhere ok?

Unfortunately i think i have only this week left in bgs cause im nearly 2L0

And thx to the blue infi who saved my llife

edit: typos

 

[odjinn]

hmm sure , gonna go to bg tomorrow maybe be there fro 17-21 or something, wave and ill come. in peace of course

do a /bang and i will go to nearest enemy grp and do a AE dmg spell so u can get some nice screenshots

edit

btw i will color myself to all blue or blue + black cloak

 

[Gahldir]

it's supposed to be like this i think:

rouge kills mage

mage kills tank

tank kills rouge

---

The problem is that stealth imho is a bit to good, so the tank never finds the rouge. nerf stealth and give the rouges some compesation for the nerf is what I think mythic should do.

 

[old.¥ØÐÄ]

nerf stealth ? what u think see hidden is ?

as for sniper chars having it easy then you got it wrong .
snipers have a tough time on rvr fields.
i not been playing long with sniper chars "scout" but from my experience in bgs this is what ive found to be hard to overcome..

1/ Pets !! i shoot a enemy in a group and a hib/mid will send pet after me . the guy i shot at is dead so i run and stealth , BUT the pet follows and come straight at me even though i am stealthed ive used all my end sprinting away after initial attack thus get run down easy by group behind that the pets with "still chasing me2 making it vrtually impossible to escape..

2/ Bt on yellow con catsers i find 1-3 arrows will take them down . but in rvr these days everybody is hanging around in groups and for a solo sniper to take out a caster that has bt whos grpd will find it very hard . u might have a great snipe spot/escape but the crit misses 99% of the time thus leaving me with atleast 2 arrows to take out the caster , sometimes its possible to do so and escape but most of the time attack os aborted and you have to run like fuck because the whole group is chasing you .

3/ destealthing whilst readying arrow . this happens frequently although not directly making scouts job harder . it doesnt make it any easier giving the enemy in my case 6 seconds whilst i ready crit to see spot and chase me .

/4 sniping froma large group is hard cos you have to fire the killing arrows and find a safe escape route "which aint easy" again because they travel in large groups .

95% of the times ive been killed in bgs is because of above reasons . very rarely i got killed 1v1 , even by tanks i took 1v1 . but not many solo payers running around .thus makes a stealthers job extremely hard .

if a stealther had no stealth there wouldnt be any rouge classes at all "except for maybe minstrals because they are so weak and depend on the element of suprise to have a chance of wining .

 

[old.Runolas]

Originally posted by Gahldir
it's supposed to be like this i think:

rouge kills mage

mage kills tank

tank kills rouge

---

The problem is that stealth imho is a bit to good, so the tank never finds the rouge. nerf stealth and give the rouges some compesation for the nerf is what I think mythic should do.

I’m about to say something rude, but no…I will hold it inside me. The tank’s kills assassins yes, but that is NOT your main job. As most ppl hopefully are about to understand, Assassins are also ment to detect other assassins/snipers. Nurf Stealth?? FFS.

Go play one and see how long you must w8 to find a suitable target in Emain, and after 1.50 it gets even harder as we no longer stay stealthed after one-shoots. Yes, assassins/sniper classes are the most fun to play in RvR, but most of them bleed their way to lvl 50, so it’s only fair.

 

[starblade]

Assassins are also ment to detect other assassins/snipers. Nurf Stealth?? FFS.

Indeed. Scout classes are not primarily meant as ubers in RvR. They do deserve each rp they can get because of the long and often lonely road to 50 but scouts and assassins are essential for ... well ...scouting (Where a scout scouts and an assassins job is to see if there are any scouts scouting )

(Just thought a sentence like that deserved a cow)

They are allready down to the basics imo so dont go round yelling to nerf stealth too. What do you wanna make em, leather tanks ??

/edit : and dont start the discussion on ubers now, it was just an expression and a slip of tongue

 

[Novamir]

Rm and Eld are the best anti archer mages


/face

QC nearsight

root/mez

 

[gunner440]

oO

why do u complain if u guys have spells which can outmatch any other caster?
Have u seen the dmg u guys do?

What more do u want? See invis, plate armor, 1sec pulsing bt??

 

[Arthwyr]

lol a whining runie ... MUHAAAAHAHAHAHHA

This game is soooooooo unfair - I do the damage of a healer, Have no speed buff, no ranged attack, low hitpoints and strenght, cant heal myself, cant root, cant mezz but hey I Like my class anyhow. You should like your overpowered RvR machine called Runemaster too.
Ah well i'm off to lvl my infil some more - c u around soon I hope.

 

[Cerverloc]

lol, well spoken. Ill keep my arrows sharp and my halberd wiped clean from its previous victims blood.

 

[Aeiedil]

1-on-1 I have an easy time against casters (talking even cons), esp if i get my crit off

Grouped casters gets harder, but still possible

SB's are hard, they by default have blade or blade, so always get a bonus vs my leather armour.

Inf's are genrally 50/50 chance of survival, depends on who gets the crit etc

Healer classes (with insta's), tanks, and classes with insta-cc are pure and utter suicide

(this is comparing same-level enemys)

Assassins aint uber, I swapped with a high level caster for a few hours after seeing how uber they looked. I found out that I think casters suck, the caster found out he thing assassins suck to play. When an assassin gets a kill its usually down to extreme patience or good luck

 

[Tasans]

What more do u want? See invis, plate armor, 1sec pulsing bt??

We also want to spec in spear.

 

[old.anubis]

Your freakin overpowered with your super long range and super powerful bolts.

just FYI:

Eldritch: 46 Bolt of Uncreation 309 Bolt 30 4 1875 Cold 20 sec.
RM: 47 Sigil of Undoing 317 Bolt 30 4 1875 Energy 20 sec.
Wizard: 50 Flame Spear 332 Bolt 33 4 1875 Heat 20 sec.

so RM doesn't have the most powerful bolt, and range is the same for all three bolters


as concerns assassins, whom else should they kill apart from casters and archers (if you are not a thrust infil of course)?

 

[old.TheAussie]

.....if zoyster would have been smart................. =p

 

[Aeiedil]

casters, archers, assasins, my main 3 targets

after that its meleers and minstrels, clerics come last on the list, insta heals and insta stun and nukability, not a good combo