State of RvR on excal?

Gargo

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What's RvR like atm? I know NF sent it tits-up but how's it coping since the release of WoW?
Are there still extreme cases of realm population unbalance? Any RP Whores still hangin around?

Just curious is all ;)
 

majik

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Well it really depends what your personal opinion of good RvR is. If you like fg vs fg action you wouldn't be particulary impressed with NF. If you like solo action, you would most likely enjoy some of it and dislike other parts. Some days there is some good solo action, some days it is poor. Having started RvR on my shadowblade I don't really know to a full extent how stealther RvR is but I've enjoyed the most part of it and have found plenty of solo fights, but then again being zerged over doesn't bother me.

The only pet hate I have is there is a lot of bridge/dock camping, which can't be helped for the fg's who are rp horny but it gets very tedious very quickly.

Overall I enjoy NF a fair bit soloing.
 

Jaem-

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Don't know much about normal chars are doing atm, but if your stealther and have friends to play with, you'll find it fun. :)
 

Helme

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From the hibs point of view FG should be fairly decent some roaming guildgroups to meet. Else maji summed it up pretty good.
 

Takhasis

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finding solo and duo good fun in NF, as long as i can avoid Lathoniel (needs a good smack with a nerf bat ;) )
 

Konah

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Gargo said:
What's RvR like atm? I know NF sent it tits-up but how's it coping since the release of WoW?

WoW has thinned things out a fair bit. from an alb perspective its tower humping with the zerg or fighting the same mid fixed rvr grps over and over again (til they log :( ) hibs are a rare spawn outside of towers. DH-nextgeneration made an appearance for a while but then disappeared back to the drawing board, i look forward to thier return. hopefully some other brave hibs willing to try soon too... and i expect bored ppl filterin back from WoW in a few weeks.
 

Akyma

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agree with Konah. Mid prespective its lots of leecher duo and some FG roaming. I miss some setup changes, allways same class in group is bored.

Lots of m8s will come back from WoW when they see the crap game they buyed^^
 

Aeoric

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What Konah said.

We run a fg roaming maybe 3-5 times a week, occasionally a few more
if more than 8 guildee's want to run.

Seems LLaw Arian and Terra Dominus from Hib & Valravens, Village People
and Groove are the prime fg's that run a lot

Hoping to see more fg's out and so we can enjoy more roaming fights, I
see a lot more hibs these days willing to run in brehon groups, virtually
no mid low-mid level fg's venture beyond bled bridge (which is usually
infested with shadowblades and hunters leeching 4tehwin).

Bravo to the Hibs that are trying to get some more fg's up and running,
I'm sure with the advent of Catacombs there will be a lull in RvR and then
more hib groups will run with Bainshee's etc etc.

Personally I'm enjoying RvR more and more in NF, sure I miss OF - but NF
is so much more accessible and less predictable. Roll on more enemies to
fight !

One thing puzzles me, maybe its because I wasn't really part of the Halcyon
Summer2003 RvR scene, but the whole concept of adding/8 vs 8 only/blah

If I see a 1-stealther vs 1-stealther fight I typically don't add. I might give
our lad a boost & stat debuff the enemy (no rps). If he needs help we'll heal
him or just waste the enemy stealther.

If I see 3(enemy) on 1 of ours - we kill the enemy.

If I see a fg on fg and Albs dying - we'll add.

If I see a fg on fg and Albs winning - I'll sometimes hold back

If someone/some people add on our fight - I don't care much

If we add - and are asked not to - we pull out.

But essentially - the thing I still don't get is this. They are the enemy,
the sole reason we (our group anyway) is to kill as many of them as we
can find. If we spot them - our first instinct is to take them down. Its
certainly not an issue for the stealthers nearby that have a shot, or the
odd solo-ers that join in for us/the enemy.

If people add on our fights - it doesn't bother me - (and they do), hell
its hard enough getting groups etc if you're not in an RvR minded guild,
if they leech some rps - great - good for you for trying to solo with so
many stealthers about.

We often come across 1-2fgs in an area - try and split them up and
take them out with middling success - if they win - our rps will be split
amongst them - instead of all going to 1 group - such is the nature of
RvR.

Dunno, perhaps its just me - but the enemy are there to be killed. I don't
pretend to 'claim' <xyz> fight to be 'ours' and that no-one should add.

I guess this is where my mentality differs from the 'old guard' - don't think
of this as an apology, its merely expressing that I don't agree/understand
with the "don't add u f**king tards" principle
 

Bracken

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Aeoric said:
I see a lot more hibs these days willing to run in brehon groups, virtually no mid low-mid level fg's venture beyond bled bridge. Bravo to the Hibs that are trying to get some more fg's up and running

About sums it up.

Aeoric said:
its merely expressing that I don't agree/understand
with the "don't add u f**king tards" principle

Are people still rude like that? :eek6: Think they'd have learned by now that it gets /rp filtered to "Please help us in all our fights this evening". :drink:
 

Calo

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wow is nice yes ;)

dunno bout NF atm, its perfect for the casual players, so thats nice. I mean even ppl like glamis kill ppl now :cheers:
 

Baldrian

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All what Aeoric said really.


Nothing wrong with NF, only with the lack of ppl.

Running around with a solo lowbie RR minser with loads of high RR stealthers around is not much fun. Tricked Paradoxx and killed him once today, was so proud of myself I could burst. well until Maji arrived and pulled me down again.

But I agree. I dont see many hibs around and only long played groups of mids. So my options to get rps is pretty much run all day for 1 kill. Add to other fights and be there when sieges is on.

I love NF, but it needs more ppl. Merge Pryd and Excal. :p
 

AmeinoN

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Aeoric said:
What Konah said.

We run a fg roaming maybe 3-5 times a week, occasionally a few more
if more than 8 guildee's want to run.

Seems LLaw Arian and Terra Dominus from Hib & Valravens, Village People
and Groove are the prime fg's that run a lot

Hoping to see more fg's out and so we can enjoy more roaming fights, I
see a lot more hibs these days willing to run in brehon groups, virtually
no mid low-mid level fg's venture beyond bled bridge (which is usually
infested with shadowblades and hunters leeching 4tehwin).

Bravo to the Hibs that are trying to get some more fg's up and running,
I'm sure with the advent of Catacombs there will be a lull in RvR and then
more hib groups will run with Bainshee's etc etc.

Personally I'm enjoying RvR more and more in NF, sure I miss OF - but NF
is so much more accessible and less predictable. Roll on more enemies to
fight !

One thing puzzles me, maybe its because I wasn't really part of the Halcyon
Summer2003 RvR scene, but the whole concept of adding/8 vs 8 only/blah

If I see a 1-stealther vs 1-stealther fight I typically don't add. I might give
our lad a boost & stat debuff the enemy (no rps). If he needs help we'll heal
him or just waste the enemy stealther.

If I see 3(enemy) on 1 of ours - we kill the enemy.

If I see a fg on fg and Albs dying - we'll add.

If I see a fg on fg and Albs winning - I'll sometimes hold back

If someone/some people add on our fight - I don't care much

If we add - and are asked not to - we pull out.

But essentially - the thing I still don't get is this. They are the enemy,
the sole reason we (our group anyway) is to kill as many of them as we
can find. If we spot them - our first instinct is to take them down. Its
certainly not an issue for the stealthers nearby that have a shot, or the
odd solo-ers that join in for us/the enemy.

If people add on our fights - it doesn't bother me - (and they do), hell
its hard enough getting groups etc if you're not in an RvR minded guild,
if they leech some rps - great - good for you for trying to solo with so
many stealthers about.

We often come across 1-2fgs in an area - try and split them up and
take them out with middling success - if they win - our rps will be split
amongst them - instead of all going to 1 group - such is the nature of
RvR.

Dunno, perhaps its just me - but the enemy are there to be killed. I don't
pretend to 'claim' <xyz> fight to be 'ours' and that no-one should add.

I guess this is where my mentality differs from the 'old guard' - don't think
of this as an apology, its merely expressing that I don't agree/understand
with the "don't add u f**king tards" principle

I Like FGvsFG, i like 1vs1,i dont like these useless albs who adding and ruin my fun.
 

Aeoric

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AmeinoN said:
I Like FGvsFG, i like 1vs1,i dont like these useless albs who adding and ruin my fun.

Judging by general deathspam (albs dying), I'd say you were in a (perfectly
valid) minority. Perhaps if you had a /yell macro, it might ward off useless
albs adding to 'your fights'.

One thing though, do you think the mids or hibs you're fighting won't pop a
shot at an Alb group nearby.

If a group happens upon another Alb group fighting a mid/hib group - should
they always stop, pm the combatants to see if its ok if they add or need
help ?

Should the Alb group stand back - wait for one team to win? then finish off
the mids/hibs if the Albs lost ?

Should the Alb group just move off in another direction and leave the
situation to resolve itself ?

Perhaps if its an arranged FG vs FG, I could understand it - but then why
use something like Beno docks as a add-free zone?

Give me something to go on here ? I don't see any of these as viable
alternatives..

Here... I'll start you off

/macro FOUA /yell UCK FOFF USELESS ALBS - THIS IS MY FIGHT !!!
 

Jika

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NF is best addon for radar users and soloers who like to add and leech :D
 

Kalba

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NF is *good* in a manner but not *good* in another.

Let me explain.

Many fg's like ours likes to fight other fg's like that, but those are not allways running. And since RvR is spread over 3 zones, unlike emain and odins to some extent it's a lot harder to find enemy groups in open field. And since there's no roads to run to find enemies or anything it's very different :(

But when pryd and excal will be merged it will rock :)
 

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Helme said:
Shame radar doesn't work then huh?
Yeah, it was so useless Goa felt the need to give people a 15 day vacation for using it.

Danita
 

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nf plain sucks, even more of a timesink then dl -> emain etc.

wish that i woulda started on camlann the moment nf came. :/
 

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we will get server clustering in about 6 months (whenever goa get off their arses) but all that will mean is the alb zerg will get bigger.
 

Dreami

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Think state of RVR is pretty decent, even tho yesterday I saw the biggest Mid zerg ever 8/
 

WullieTheRed

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Im sure NF has its downfalls, but for a casual player like myself, I have found its versatility to be the breath of fresh air I needed in the game. The majority of the time I find myself running solo or duo with my Bm, hunting down bowmen etc, or just plain hunting down albies. Ive had many good 1vs1 out there (and /salute to you all, was fun :D) when you go off the beaten track and theres always keep takes/defence to go to when elsewhere is quiet. When Im out lvling my ranger and I get twatted by some scout I usually log the Bm and go taunting around until he gets silly enough to pop a shot at me. Good giggles nevertheless.
On the whole, I think NF is a great new wash for the game, others would find it more fun, if they just adapted their playing styles.
 

Eregion

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Raven said:
we will get server clustering in about 6 months (whenever goa get off their arses) but all that will mean is the alb zerg will get bigger.
You dont play the game anymore afaik? There isnt any real zerg atm, atleast if you compare to what it used to be. And you don't see it often.
 

Bracken

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AmeinoN said:
I Like FGvsFG, i like 1vs1,i dont like these useless albs who adding and ruin my fun.

The difference is someone who adds to piss people off and someone who just makes a mistake. Afaik few do it to piss people off. That's why someone who starts being a **** over it is just asking to be added on. If someone can't handle other people spotting an enemy in a rvr realm and wading in before they've realised it's a pure fg v fg fight, then they are playing the wrong game.
 

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