Stat impacts on diff. classes - Clarification needed

[Nausilus^^]

Ok here's the deal:
I've heard tons of times that 250 is hardcap on qui.. all above 250 does nothing. I heard all above 300dex does nothing for str based classes, can't say much about casters as I've never involved myself in their stat system, but I sure could use some clarification upon what exactly dex does to a melee class using strength based weapons, what qui does when it passes 250, does light tanks need dex when using str based weapons etc etc etc.

If anyone cba writing it, please do and help all of the newbs (or just me) who haven't got it figured out entirely yet. And please.. don't write anything that is not true, just to take the piss on us..

Thanks in advance

 

[Dracus]

300 is only a soft cap for non qui stats...so for str, con and dex its still good at least thats the impression i have.

/Dracus

 

[Sarumancer]

Always wondered why Casters can have like 300+ int, but Naturalists are stuck down around 200 empathy.

Kind of sucks that.

 

[Eva]

Acuity buff ;o unbuffed I have 218 int on my sorc without overcaps ( aug acuity 3 for moc so 18 from that ) then I have 303 int when I have a red acuity buff from my bot ( 25% buff lv 50 mota 2 ). Acuity buffs don't work on support classes ( I don't know why ) and I've heard that acuity is capped for support classes ( piety empathy etc ) at 250.

 

[Rulke]

Afaik (could be wrong) acuity from the buff doesn't add to mana pool, only damage, so would be kinda useless to have it affect healer classes.

On the other hand it should affect hybrids

 

[Sycho]

Light tanks do not need dex since it only effects parry and maybe qui(we aren't 100% certain still if evade is pure qui based although i am pretty sure it is)

Any str above 400 is still same as above 300 on a light tank, you get the same ws per point so it's nice to have high as possible.Qui past 250 does nothing at the moment although who knows mythic may change it now mastery of arms gets removed in new frontiers.As for dex for a caster, anything above 300 has 50% more haste casting effectiveness per point than before 300(i think! might be wrong on this though xD and the cap is supposedly around 420 dex)

 

[Nausilus^^]

So basically on a light tank I can just pretty much skip dex entirely?

 

[Galelawyn]

depends on spec also , if your ws is str/dex based ( like thrust weapons) you'd better get dex also , don't think you need it on pure str based weapons no

 

[Shneddi]

sadness

 

[Eredan]

Isn't evade based on 50% Dex 50% Qui?

If it is light-tanks (Berserker, Merc & Blademaster) would be affected by not raising Dex. Since Parry and Blocking are also affected i would recommend against not dismissing Dex so easily.

 

[old.windforce]

well there was done some testing that suggested that evade was 100% quick based. SOme kobold SBs were pretty pissed in that case they would be utterly f*cked by opening screen that suggests that kobolds are best race

 

[Balbor]

does Dex effect Blocking and perrying directy or by increasing AF which inturn effects blocking and perrying?

 

[Galelawyn]

it just directly increases parry and block chance

 

[Balbor]

but Dex does effect AF right?

 

[Thegreatest]

but Dex does effect AF right?

No, why should dex increase armor factor? Armor factor is only calculated by your equipments AF & quality + any AF buff that you have.

and your AF doesn't have anything to do with your block/parry rate, altho your opponents weapon skill vs. your weapon skill affects your block/evade/parry rate.

 

[Pin]

I heard Qui also affects runspeed...

 

[harm]

Dex also affects shield wskill, so more dex = greater chance to hit and more damage with shield styles.

 

[Balbor]

Qui doesn't effect run speed, Dex does effect Shield attacks, although it does seem a bit unrealistic

 

[Danya]

Pin was being sarcastic Balbor.

I'm fairly sure evade is dex+qui - I seem to recall doing some evade testing and a base dex made a reasonable difference.

 

[Rulke]

Charisma makes you more popular with the ladies. :wub:

 

[Jpeg[LOD]]

401 dex on my scout and i aint fully sc'd n dex capped yet .


cant seem to get past 317 with my friar tho even tho he higher rr etc

 

[Danya]

Friars don't get dex as they level, scouts do - that makes a scout 45 dex better off, a saracen is better off than a britain on base stats to boot.

 

[emma]

401 dex on my scout and i aint fully sc'd n dex capped yet .


cant seem to get past 317 with my friar tho even tho he higher rr etc

402 is the cap for a saracen scout with +10 dex at creation and aug dex 2.

337 is the cap for a briton friar with +10 dex at creation and aug dex 2.

Both thos numbers take into account +75 dex on armour, +25 dex cap, +62 base dex, +93 spec dex/qui

 

[Pin]

402 is the cap for a saracen scout with +10 dex at creation and aug dex 2.

337 is the cap for a briton friar with +10 dex at creation and aug dex 2.

Both thos numbers take into account +75 dex on armour, +25 dex cap, +62 base dex, +93 spec dex/qui

26 is +dexcap cap, so add 1 to each

 

[Vodkafairy]

well i did a small test and my evade went up by ~11% after using dex buff (on ns), really a shame because it could be cool if i could drop dex completely for my sc suit

 

[[NO]Subedai]

is it true that empathy adds to hit point total and weapon skill?

 

[Danya]

is it true that empathy adds to hit point total and weapon skill?

Yes, yes it is.

 

[[NO]Subedai]

then i must cap emapthy on my zerk!

 

[Wij]

Parry = Dex
Block = Dex
Evade = Dex/Qui

From the latest tests on VN Evade is NOT just Qui

Above 250 qui does not hasten your weaps but can still increase evade if a high WS opponent would otherwise make you evade less than 50% iirc.