Starting Out

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lron

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Hi All

Im just starting out in this big wide world , im playing a level 2 Elementelist , if anyone has any suggestions please let me know , and if there any guilds out there looking for a future wizzard i would be interested in joining
 
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case-rigantis

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i have a level 10 wizzy that i`ve just started and he`s cool as a really cool thing

just can`t beat those Nukes!!! I`d suggest you have a word with a couple of wizzys about which line to spec in. I`m sticking to Fire and it seems pretty good.

Make sure you spend you spec points wisely and try and stick to just 1 line (only my opinion)

as for guild give me a shout in game we are currently recruiting.

cya

Case
 
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Myshra

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welcome to the world of giving pain :)

currently most of hte high level wizzies like me are fire, except for meepthor whos gone ice (silly boy).

fire wizzies get:

Spec DD (means it is more powerful then a standard DD which you get automatically)
Spec bolt (next patch only, bout 3 weeks away)
AoE Fire attack

Ice Wizzies get:

Point blank AoE
DD and snare together (slows target down to 60% speed)
AoE (fire damage, not as good as fire AoE)
DD with ice resistance decrease

Earth wizards get:

A Spec bolt (just as good as a fire spec bolt +-2% damage)
A damage shield (when hit, the attacker recieves damage back, but its beyond crap)
AoE DD+snare (60% movement again)

ALL wizzies get:

Fire base bolt
Bladeturn at lvl 19
Root (single target)
Fire base DD
Ice base DD
Self AF buff
Damage add spell (melee only)

pluses:

no one, repeat no one can do the amount of damage you can do in any realm. with this new bolt we get in the next patch damage can be over 900 a shot, you can easily 1 hit yellow con casters with it. if your an ice with your PBAoE can defend a keep, second to none

Against:

there is no one who will die quicker than you, 3 melee hits is the usual rate of death, but then again you can get your own back in RvR by causing huge damage with AoE (if you choose to spec in fire)

Fire or Ice?

dont pick earth, you do you gimped, so dont. most choose fire for the damage at range, cause ice wizzies rely mainly on their PBAoE which is the most damaging spell in the game, but you have to literally be on top of the target for it to do max damage. if i were you id pick fire.

tactics:

to solo choose yellows oranges can be done (will be much easier next patch with spec bolt). i do:

Bolt (cause it has the longest range) 4s
DD 3s
DD 3s
DD 3s
QC DD 2s (if its a tough one)

this isnt the recommended way to kill stuff though, most wizzies usually do:

bolt
DD
root
DD
DD

but that takes too long imo :)

qc = quick cast, double mana consumption but makes your next spell virtually unstoppable

blues suck for XP considering the downtime from them (they take on average one less DD) so stick to yellows. next patch if you spec fire you should be doing..

Spec Bolt
Bolt
DD
DD
DD

and you can solo oranges with that.

races:

Briton or Avalonian are the only viable options really, as your needed stat is intelligence which determins your damage ability.

i suggest you spend your spec points no matter what race:

10 Con
10 Int
10 Dex

con for life, int for damage dex for cast time

although i myself stuck 10 con 10 int 5 dex 5str so i can carry a little bit more, but i wish i hadn't.

dex is your cast time modifier, get a dex buff and your cast time per spell goes down.

ta da, a quick guide to being a wizard
 
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lron

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Thanx

thanx to both of you for your suggestions

Chase i will contact you towards the weekend



:clap: Lron:clap: ;) :D :cool: :) :eek: :confused:
 
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Falchion

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But don't forget that it still isn't too late to see the light and follow the true path, becoming a Theurgist!

(Though quite possibly you've passed level 5 by now!)
 
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case-rigantis

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ah but then you`d miss those luvelly NUKES!!!!!! BMWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!! BOOM!!!!!!
 
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old.mattshanes

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pick ice it totally kicks as meepthor is ice wizard and hes a lot stronger then any fire wizard i know btw earth is not gimped.
 
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old.mattshanes

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put it this way best ice spell 331dd it says and best fire 288dd so choice is yours but i definetly say ice and quite a few ppl do even my official guide says ice is best.
 
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- Pathfinder -

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Cough is that the Prima Guide? Never, ever trust official guides :p
 
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old.mattshanes

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nope its not but anyway i see meepthor killing tanglers one hit most times and fire wizards take 2-3 hehe so there u go :p
 
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Myshra

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hmm, you bring about some interesting points matt:

a) wiz earth IS GIMPED. please tell me what good a damage shield is (you cant use it solo, you cant use it in groups), it breaks root instantly. and a bolt is for pulling, its no dd by any means

b) ice is good if the group knows what your doing. agroing a lot of pymies on tanks is good so long as the group can do it.

c) best ice PBAoE damage: 48 Major Steaming Wind 325 DD best fire bolt damage: 50 Flame Spear 332 DD

for an ice wizard to do his max damage he has to be on the target, as with any aoe damage drops with distance from the centre of the pbaoe.

if you want to run with the tanks and die quicker then fine, go for pbaoe to do all your damage, but if you want range you pick fire, its as simple as that. fire wizards also solo easier (ive tried an ice wiz to lvl 14 and it was crap so i deleted her) then ice counterparts imo, as you rely too much on snare and lesser damaging spells i found.

besides, how many times do you really think pbaoe is gonna be used in rvr (ok a given, its extremely useful for keep defence), but remember, next patch i can AoE the doors, and the aoe may do half the damage, but it has more radius :)
 
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Myshra

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anyway fire v ice has been done to death, but theres still more fire wizzies in daoc ;)
 
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- Pathfinder -

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The power of PBAE is immense; try fighting a group of hibs with three high lv PBAE casters behind them; they'll wreck you in seconds ;)
 
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old.mattshanes

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try going rvr with fire wiz and u get a stealther kill u often whereas an ice wizard would cast that ice ring spell and kill them:D

Also there is only a lot of fire wizards coz it looks good but i see more ice wizards coming now for once.
 
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Myshra

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Originally posted by mattshanes
try going rvr with fire wiz and u get a stealther kill u often whereas an ice wizard would cast that ice ring spell and kill them:D

that would be why every 40+ fire wiz sticks at least 7 points in ice for the first pbaoe ;)

my final templates
50F
11I
17E

50 fire for the new mega bolt
11 ice for second pbaoe
17E gives me the second Earth AoE snare and some crappy damage add shield ill never use :)
 
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old.mattshanes

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i could spec any line and make a dam good wiz nothing sucks no classes either u just gotta play well and use them well.As for earth u watch in 1.51 and u will c it ROCKS :D
 
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old.drac

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mmmm..without pouring water onto burning oil...

Imo full spec fire is the way to go for PvE, i think it just has the edge over ice in damage and utility.
Ice While still being very good, excells in RvR.
The big news is that whislt earth is Gimped at present, patch 1.51 in some variant is offering some real promise for the earth line.

My advice would be to go for full fire with anything spare into ice, even gimp if neccesary, just get lvl 7ice spec PbAoE and catch up on fire later...
then take your pick from the specs when a respec is introduced....long time yet.
 
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old.mattshanes

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They all good really just depends what u like and want to use the wiz for mainly.
 

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