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Hargh

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I have managed to get Fiskjar to 41 hooray! Full supp at the moment and will be until L49 no doubt, here is the question:

Final specs, which and why?

I have no idea whether dark or summ would be better spend.
 

Prudil

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Hargh said:
I have managed to get Fiskjar to 41 hooray! Full supp at the moment and will be until L49 no doubt, here is the question:

Final specs, which and why?

I have no idea whether dark or summ would be better spend.
50sup/20dark imo

50 sup for last and best single target mezz in the game + best pbaoe
20 dark to even out the baseline nuke
 

Deje

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or this is also good.....

49supp/22dark

49 supp best pbaoe (minus 1 level in the comparision against target)
22 dark for short time(think 6-10sec? ) ae mezz
 

Hargh

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So would no one be in favour of 41 supp and boosting other skills? Isn't there some use for res?
 

Deje

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then u become mediocre (not strong) in any spells/area =/
 

Fafnir

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Prudil said:
50sup/20dark imo

50 sup for last and best single target mezz in the game + best pbaoe
20 dark to even out the baseline nuke
Don't listen to Prudil, he know shit :D /jk
 

Prudil

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Hargh said:
So would no one be in favour of 41 supp and boosting other skills? Isn't there some use for res?
The SM rezz is just a waste of power imho...ghetto rez in other words. Sum-SM is an offencive class and should not do support stuff (except cure mezz). The 50sup-mezz is the only mezz that can stop a det5 tank for more than 5 sec and will "stick" almost every time ;)

So better with 20dark and 50sup then 22/49 the 2+ points in dark wont do _that_ much to the overall baseline dmg.

/hugs faf!
 

Azurat

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41 sup 35 dark or so can be quit nice though if you work with other sms. Like spirit debuffing and still add some damage with pbaoe.
 

Roo Stercogburn

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Summoning only any use if Darkness is your main line.

41 Sup, rest in Dark is good spec. Not uber but good. When Frontiers goes active combine this with Mastery of Focus and suddenly it DOES become a very powerful spec. Nicodemus liked this spec and was fairly effective with it, though don't tell him I said that, he's painful enough at the best of times.

You go full sup you are one trick pony with one style of play but you are a very good pony.

However, if you simply hold off spending any training points until level 49, you still have time to decide: if you're xp'ing, I bet you're mainly using your pbae anyway and no more until 49 :)

But if you're even considering Sup as mainline, don't waste any points in Summoning.
 

Rayko

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I'm 50 supp 20 dark... Very good spec, I used to be 47 supp 23 summoning and I must say there is a serious change in damage/resist rate + last mezz
 

lator

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41 (+11) Supp takes it over 50
35 (+11) Dark takes you 50 @ RR5

Very handy spec makes nukes hit strong. Perhaps 50/20 in PvE though.
 

Mrmiff

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49 supp 22 darkness is the way to go. The lvl 40 single mezz is still very good and doesnt resists much , the pbaoe is just as good as in 50 supp minus like 7 damage and you get better damage on darkness nuke and the AE 1500 range mezz which casts fast as hell costs no power and is extremely good for interrupting for example a hib pbaoe box you get at 22 darkness.

41/35 supp / darkness is not good due to resists.

50/20 Is like 49/22 except you dont get a interrupting utility

50 dark Is good but not for groups , if you plan on soloing infils go that way.

50 summ- Has been nerfed and any sum is worthless rvr
 

Asty

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Best is imo 49 supp, 21 dark, 8 summ because:

- best pbae
- not that much nuke dmg variation
- ae mezz at 21 dark for interrupting
- low lvl pet buffs > low lvl body debuff
 

Kedoz

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How about specing 49\50 Darkness? That will give you the best lifedrain wich does 300-450 dmg in RvR and 350+ to orange con mobs in PvE. It also grants you Pbaoe mezz and range AE mezz (with better radius than the healer one, but shorter duration). Not only that, you also become a RM's best frined cuz of ur debuffs ;)

My sm can unbuffed solo Umbroods in Df, yeah so what you ask?? Well its cool ;P but its a big power drain, and not 100% safe, cuz if you pet is not intercepting enough your dead ;P
 

Darac

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"50 dark Is good but not for groups , if you plan on soloing infils go that way."

I find this hard to believe. I have pld in many grps with my Dark SM and done much better than any Supp SM's when assisting. Supp is great if your group is built to PBAOE. But with pure dark you’re putting out 300-400 damage every 1.5 seconds and healing yourself for 90% of that. Also, with MOC and a buffed spirit intercepting for you it’s almost laughable when a small assist train tries to take you down.

Before Dark I was 41/35 and found I liked to Nuke more than PBAOE. Don't get me wrong though, if you are part of a group desgined around PBAOE then that's the way to go.
 

Jaem-

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I enjoyed darkspec on my sm, but had to give in to the need of pbae in groups for lvling, ended going on 41sup 35dark at 50, atm shes 48.

atm she does about same dmg as full sup spec pbae, I'm gussing when they get last pbae spell, my lower pbae will be more along the lines of "average" dmg, but in the end, it can debuff its own pbae dmg, so hoping its more of a support caster in pbae groups.

Best bit imo is I can still lifedrain, only for about 200 dmg, but still helpfull in some situations :)
 

Hargh

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Great answers thank you. Nice to see so many reasoned arguements out.

1 thing to remember (lator) is even tho "41 (+11) Supp takes it over 50" thats only for damage purposes, the level of the spell is more important as it is about resists. I hope that is right now I have said it :D
 

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