Spot Camping

[HarleyDave]

I have noticed it more then once, and now I would like your advice on what should be considered a reasonable thing to do when situations like this happen.

I am referring to one person camping a spot and waiting for a mob to pop, then when it pops, calling guildies, friends etc to kill it.

I see no problem camping a mob alone if you can solo it, or with the help of your buffbot. But having 1 person just watching for a pop and claim it for his/her group which is not even there, since they will only come when the mob pops, is not acceptable imho.

So imagine having 8 people with 2 accounts spread over to 8 different places having 1 char at each spot. One mob pops, they log their second account, so their spot is still "camped" and the group forms to go kill the popped mob. Basically we are talking about having 8 spots camped by 8 single people, calling group only when mob pops.

Do not call a spot camped if you are solo and cannot solo the mob. Is this too much to ask? or is this acceptable? Having artifacts spots camped by 1 individual who only calls group when mob pops, is this ok?

Should a fg or 2 or more who really came to kill the mob, and are all physically present step aside cause a solo is set to watch a spot all the time and advice his friends guildies when it pops so they can farm it, then leave and start over again?

Thanks in advance for the advice, I really do not know how to tackle these situations without creating conflict. What would you do?

HD

 

[nol]

run in and kill it, they obviously have nothing better to do then camp, give them something to do, make their day

 

[Gegge]

run in and kill it, they obviously have nothing better to do then camp, give them something to do, make their day

hehe ^^

 

[Squalion]

Nol's Avatar scares me

 

[Thorinn]

I am referring to one person camping a spot and waiting for a mob to pop, then when it pops, calling guildies, friends etc to kill it.
HD

I see np in having an alt to watch for pop. But begin to claim the spot with that alt is too much imo.
It's nice if an "alt watcher" can bring u a little ahead of other peeps who maybe would like to kill mob too, but still it's just too bad if other peeps show up first, as all peeps pay to play this game.

 

[PJS]

If whoever is at a camp is incapable of pulling from the camp then they have no claim to it. Simple .

This is supported by the CoC also.

 

[plomien]

If whoever is at a camp is incapable of pulling from the camp then they have no claim to it. Simple .

This is supported by the CoC also.

completely agree.

 

[Tallen]

If whoever is at a camp is incapable of pulling from the camp then they have no claim to it. Simple .

This is supported by the CoC also.

Have to agree, if an artifact mob pops and a bb is camping it when a fg is required to take it down they have no claim on that spot (unless they gather enough numbers before another group shows up).

"Camping" imho means being active at that spot with the intent to pull, a solo camping a fg encounter is hence not actively camping it.

If you could "camp" with just one afk bot, then one guild could camp every artifact mob spawn at once while not actually being there, which is rediculous.

If a "contingent" is present at a spawn with enough numbers to pull the mob and win then i'd call it camped.

The bigger issue here is, ofc, greed. If two groups have an issue over who has the right to pull a mob they should make a BG and do it together imo, then lotto fairly amongst themselves

 

[Behmoth]

if they just have BB there to guard/spot the spawn then its 1st grp to pull and the mob belongs to them.

if its however grp wipeout and all are returning then thats the arkward one

so dunno depends what answer you get back when you ask the player what is going on

 

[Ziva]

I would wait for 5 minutes and if nothing happens or the "buffbot" doesnt say people are incomming and asks you to move, just pull. I can understand people park a char somewhere to prevent them from having to go to the spot to check all the time but if they can't be there with a group to pull it within a reasonable amount of time then the mob is yours imo.

 

[plomien]

if its however grp wipeout and all are returning then thats the arkward one

if they are able to park BB there why didn't they rezz using the BB?

that would be my question which would then make me think that whoever advised it was a wipe out was actually telling porky pies.

 

[Raven]

just pull the mob anyway if you are in a fg, not the nicest of things to do but what would happen if every mob in the game was un-pullable because someone has their alt sat there afk. If the person/persons are not intending to pull until a group arrives then the group already there got there 1st imo and its tough shit.

 

[Behmoth]

if they are able to park BB there why didn't they rezz using the BB?

that would be my question which would then make me think that whoever advised it was a wipe out was actually telling porky pies.

BB may be a menta dunno also may be the 1st returning person or an ld


damn you didn't think of that

 

[Bellona]

imho, if those camping the spot cant kill the mob, they cant claim.

 

[Divinia]

I'm Camping a mob with a rl friend atmo.. will tell two mates to come if it pop since it's doable. But if people arrive before them i wont bitch at 'em. Its their choise if they will listen to me when i say "i got two friends inc to kill this fecker" If they dont, np They obviously spent their time better than me and managed to have a good luck also

If i had camped it with a full group and some others ran in and killed it while we buffed up or something i would get abit more angry tho..

Can't camp spawns solo/with bots and then claim whatever pops.. if you can't solo it that is imho.. but can't camp a spawn forever also .

 

[Talivar]

I agree camping a spot with alt is lame and if as a fg u see 1 doing it then just wait 5mins like ziva said and /who his guild tos ee if they inc and if they not kill the mob.But if they are close when u /who then its theer BUT and big BUT the bot should tell u ppl inc cus if its AFK then it doesnt deserve to have the spot.

 

[Divinia]

They should do something about Eramai tbh.. 3 hours now and crap droprate

 

[Laryssa]

i live at the moon belt spot atm

don't blame me - i got the belt, only want the f*cking credit

 

[Xanthian]

They should do something about Eramai tbh.. 3 hours now and crap droprate

His other items are better than the artifact tbh

 

[Divinia]

His other items are better than the artifact tbh

yea, but cloudsong is good cus gives 5% castspeed, not many items with that around and with phoebus harp + that i reach 10% so i dont have to waste precious space on overcaps/beeing frustrated over 8-9% castspeed.

 

[Tholus]

If whoever is at a camp is incapable of pulling from the camp then they have no claim to it. Simple .

This is supported by the CoC also.

Totally agree

 

[Shawr]

They should do something about Eramai tbh.. 3 hours now and crap droprate

Aye, nerf that mob. First 2 times we killed it he dropped the cloak np, but then when it came to be my turn to get the cloak he went and tore it up the git.
Now last few times we've been to check the spawn he's either not been up or a fg there campin him.


And my 2 cents to the camping argument. I agree with the people that say a bot or solo person can't claim a spawn they can't pull themselves. I don't see how they and whatever group they are calling in has anymore right to the mob than the group that has just turned up ready to pull. Just because the other group sent a scout ahead. First group at the spot ready to pull should have the spawn imo, simple as.
Ofcourse in a perfect world everyone in the area of an artifact mob when it's spawned who wants the artifact should bg up to kill it then lotto the artifact fairly.......but I doubt that's gonna happen with the current must get artifacts and mls asap climate.

 

[Aldias]

I have noticed it more then once, and now I would like your advice on what should be considered a reasonable thing to do when situations like this happen.
HD

I know the feeling and been in this situation the last 4days without got a possitive result yet. And maybe this happend coz i am unguilded and as already know, ToA doesnt love unguilded peeps. Anyway i got some options here that maybe help u to sort this out :

1. Make a daily or weekly camping spot list. Ofc this option is the hard one coz u need to organize the whole thing and be online for many hrs /day. But still is ''a reasonable thing'' to do as u request.

2. If u r guilded tell ur m8s to come to the spot and kill ur mob ... doesnt matter whoever is there. ( this is the easiest but fastest way)

3. Go to the spot off peak times like 3am or smth like this. maybe u still find some campers there in that time but usually u ll be alone...