Sorcerers

[Tigersans]

How are people finding Sorcerers out there?

Im currently at lvl 12 but finding im really squishy and the DPS output doesnt seem that good either.

Maybe its me and i have poor gear who knows. Just after other peoples oppinions. As i maybe playing the char wrong

thanks in advance

 

[Vintersorg]

How are people finding Sorcerers out there?

Im currently at lvl 12 but finding im really squishy and the DPS output doesnt seem that good either.

Maybe its me and i have poor gear who knows. Just after other peoples oppinions. As i maybe playing the char wrong

thanks in advance

Now, I don't play a sorc myself at the moment, but played it a bit during CB:
Sorcerers are obviously squishy, being casters.
But their DPS is very high (at the same level as Bright Wizards), but probably the char will only really shine when you've got some career points.
Keep in mind that many of your spells are instant cast, so you'd probably best use those a lot.
Doombolt does good damage, but 3s cast = too slow. Best not spam that one.
Take a look at the sorceress abilities:
Sorceress - Actions - Warhammer Online
You're level 12, the best is still to come

 

[Hawkwind]

Great and it gets better - I'm full destruction so far and the dmg output is very good. I'm constantly in top 5 for scenarios. Taking out large tight groups with AOE's is enourmous fun. Can be difficult to solo some mobs, especially with knockbacks like salamander, lizards and dorfs.

 

[arknor]

Great and it gets better - I'm full destruction so far and the dmg output is very good. I'm constantly in top 5 for scenarios. Taking out large tight groups with AOE's is enourmous fun. Can be difficult to solo some mobs, especially with knockbacks like salamander, lizards and dorfs.

i ccould beat top5 with my black orc in t2 scenarios i havent managed to get into a t3 one yet.

im doing a sorc alt currently upto lvl 12 aswell and so far im not really impressed

 

[Ezeine]

How are people finding Sorcerers out there?

Im currently at lvl 12 but finding im really squishy and the DPS output doesnt seem that good either.

Maybe its me and i have poor gear who knows. Just after other peoples oppinions. As i maybe playing the char wrong

thanks in advance

IMO the dmg output of the Sorcs is sick. I was getting 2 shotted by them with my WP in T2.

 

[Spookie]

IMO the dmg output of the Sorcs is sick. I was getting 2 shotted by them with my WP in T2.

It's impossible for us to two shot anyone. We can take 1/2-2/3 off someones health at 100 dark magic and a couple of lucky crits. But two shotting isn't in WAR.

 

[Ezeine]

It's impossible for us to two shot anyone. We can take 1/2-2/3 off someones health at 100 dark magic and a couple of lucky crits. But two shotting isn't in WAR.

So not possible to get 2x 1k spells in the face and die due to having 2k hp?

 

[Flimgoblin]

if you're on full dark magic you'll be critting constantly for a huge crit bonus - a lone sorc isn't that scary because they'll kill themselves quicker - but a sorc with healing is dangerous (like a bright wizard).

That said, still squishier than anything else

 

[vajb]

For the moment I've reached 26 with my Sorceress and am experiencing T3-battlegrounds, or rather Tor Anroc since that's the only one that likes me.

PVE:
I'm unwilling to move to a different pairing (saving it for other chars), so I'm hanging in there, grinding L28-30 (Ch14) for influence while waiting for RvR-scenarios. Boost up DM with the pbaoe, fire away and hope for crits. If you crit the mob is disposed of very fast and it ain't a problem keeping up a good pace (unless they spawn right under your bum as usual). If you group up with a DoK you can AoE the lot for fast INF, incredible AoE-team imo.

PVP:
This is where we shine, really. If the Order don't see to it that you, as a sorcerer is picked off by WH/BW or whatever can put them out of action fast, they get to taste the AoE, which hurts and scatters them. Satisfaction guaranteed if they gang together on someone ahead of you, lock target, fire!

Though... you really do need those meatwalls infront of you building a dam, aswell as the caring healer behind you taking care of your DM-damage, if you haven't got that you have to be careful and that's not our strongest tactic, neither are we put to our best use that way. It's a damn shame that you often die between two healers (that stand there, dpsing) waiting for a good while for a heal, just to get tired of it and try that last nuke that throws you over the edge. I am not a needy sorcerer who shout for heals, instead I usually try to get by on my own, but sometimes it just feels that if they gave us that extra attention (instead of dpsing themselves), a couple of sorcerers could probably win a game going the wrong way, giving more exp/rp to all.

If you miss out on a RvR-run for some reason, you'll might even hear it as the group you play with "Would've won if we had your AoE with us".

It's odd though, that most sorcerers out there don't put out as much damage as they should be able to, not sure why as most should have the same gear due to running the same PQ's, getting the same rank et cetera.

Imagine a full sorc (or BW) assist-group, Hells Fury.

Bright Wizards seem to hurt even more though, that Ignite is way too lethal. Any BW care to post some damagescreens on hits/aoes?

Shattered Shadows - Must be hitting lower level players, or a lucky crit. These numbers happen once in a while, passing 1700 now as L26.
Closest run ever - Looks like a Tie if you check experience, but they won according to the message?

Usually it's BW's throwing 120k+ damage on the table both in T2 and T3, was great to actually get up there as a Sorc.

Loving it so far as a Sorcerer, can't wait til' keepfights. Having real trouble trying to level an alt as the Sorc has the complete package for me. Would love to get an alt going though, as T4 must be a lonely place for a week more or so?

 

[Ixoth]

Obviously to be able to two shot other guy is dependent on many factors and level difference between the two is one of them. I managed to two shot one guy in rvr but we had few lvl difference (tho this happened when I was lvl 11 or so)

 

[Xandax]

I love sorcerers and would be playing one if it wasn't for the single fact that I'm on the Order side due to population balance issues.
I actually prefer a sorcerer over a BW from a purely subjective perspective.

Casters are "squishy" to a certain degree - although compared to other games we live longer - but you'll learn to move around, use the terrain and keep moving. Move behind others to utilize the Collision Detection and all that and survivability increases a lot.

 

[Ezeine]

Shattered Shadows - Must be hitting lower level players, or a lucky crit. These numbers happen once in a while, passing 1700 now as L26.

Hmm I wonder if I should starting exping my Sorc. That's some nasty AoE

 

[York]

Currently got my sorc to lvl 9 which isnt very high but overall im fairly happy with him, he is definatly very squishy and im getting mixed results in scenarios, as Filmgoblin said, with healing im most definatly a major contributor in scenarios but unfortunatly healers still seem to be learning that they do actually get RPs for healing.

Hopefully as people play more and start to realise that a team effort is superior in every way to solo play then sorcs will be a much better later on.

As for damage, yep its crazy sometimes but i wouldnt go as far as saying we can 2 shot people (never done that) if im very very lucky and get 3 crits in a row then possibly i can take someone down who has low resistance but as the main nuke has a 3 second cast time (9seconds is a very long time in fights) others usually get the damage in before i can.

My Chosen on the other hand is just awesome, always in the top 5 in damage output which seems abit strange considering but when you couple it with the great survivability they have you really can get stuck in there, merely a case of TAB whack, TAB whack, TAB whack

 

[Apollyn]

Sorcerors hit like trucks if you let them, my WH in t3 has been smacked for 1.5k, then 800, then 500 and I'm pretty much dead ina few seconds before now which is frustrating but at the same time I can drop a sorc in as many seconds as well, they are a great glass cannon class and personally I think quite balanced, dunno how they compre to BWs but I imagine WEs with their superior DPS than us eat BWs just as fast so I guess it sorta equals out?

 

[vajb]

Hmm I wonder if I should starting exping my Sorc. That's some nasty AoE

Luck and being the higher level, although some out of those high numbers should be on an equal level aswell as I was 25 at that point.

Also seen Pit of Shadows crit 1000 on a lower level, kinda fun considering it's, what, 2-3 secs between the hits while you channel it? People in it HAS to move and primary targets are always ranged and healers, thus interrupting their heals to their frontline, which with some luck, dies.

Only time in a scenario I use doombolt is when I trigger the moraleability (whatever its called) to cut the cast time in half. Target some enemy top damage dealer, hit the ability, fireaway 1,5s doombolts + everything else you got and make other team miss out on all that wonderful damage for up to a minute.

But still, as we all can sign on, we're squishy as a rotten tomato. WTB a knockbacktank at my side.

Team effort > everything.

Sorcerors hit like trucks if you let them, my WH in t3 has been smacked for 1.5k, then 800, then 500 and I'm pretty much dead ina few seconds before now which is frustrating but at the same time I can drop a sorc in as many seconds as well, they are a great glass cannon class and personally I think quite balanced, dunno how they compre to BWs but I imagine WEs with their superior DPS than us eat BWs just as fast so I guess it sorta equals out?

A BW kills me faster than I can kill a BW in general, might be balance, levels or just coming down to choice of spells and some lucky crits. BW is faster nevertheless.

Think I've killed myself more often than anyone else has though... we're our worst enemy... "Just one more bolt", "It won't backfire"... Yeah, right.

 

[dee777]

Think I've killed myself more often than anyone else has though... we're our worst enemy... "Just one more bolt", "It won't backfire"... Yeah, right.

Is there actually a title for permament suiciding?

 

[Memph1s]

Well I would state the sorc as one of the best solo farming classes in the game, that I tried, ofcause I havent tried many in high level, im currently lvl 35 and I easily take down 6-8 mobs before I go down myself, even at aoe grinding that among is no trouble.

 

[Vintersorg]

Well I would state the sorc as one of the best solo farming classes in the game, that I tried, ofcause I havent tried many in high level, im currently lvl 35 and I easily take down 6-8 mobs before I go down myself, even at aoe grinding that among is no trouble.

Black Orcs can do that too! they can take lots more than 6-8 mobs before going down!
It just takes ages to kill a mob

At least, as far as I played them in T1-2...I suppose T4 won't be much of a change on that level

 

[Memph1s]

belive me I know im farming lvl 35 mobs right now with a 31 black orc we take 20 mobs at a time =)

 

[Pandemic]

It's impossible for us to two shot anyone. We can take 1/2-2/3 off someones health at 100 dark magic and a couple of lucky crits. But two shotting isn't in WAR.

It is, I got 2 shotted by a doombolt doing 1700 dmg each time from the same sorc last night. well early this morning really, dont think it was you although I was playing against you

 

[Svartmetall]

FFS nerf Sorcs!

...wait...wrong game

 

[Spookie]

It is, I got 2 shotted by a doombolt doing 1700 dmg each time from the same sorc last night.

Must have had the Magus magic rez debuff on you because it's not possible unless you have nil (or minus) rez.

Also.

What the hell were you doing sitting in range of a sorc for SIX SECONDS?!

 

[vajb]

By the time he was hit by the first bolt and felt that he was in deep shit the second one was already halfway through casting. Ya' can't run from something you don't see coming.

 

[Vintersorg]

By the time he was hit by the first bolt and felt that he was in deep shit the second one was already halfway through casting. Ya' can't run from something you don't see coming.

That, or he was stuck in one of those 10-second roots that don't break.

 

[dee777]

FFS nerf Sorcs!

...wait...wrong game

Nah...not wrong game...you are just ahead of your time...

 

[vajb]

That, or he was stuck in one of those 10-second roots that don't break.

Those roots that breaks often enough and sometimes don't even stick at all which ensures your death? Of course.

On the other hand, those knockbacks that never fail and boost you across the map and have you run for ages to get back, lets whine over those instead.

Or... maybe just leave the imbalance discussion to another thread as this is not the proper place.

 

[Vintersorg]

Those roots that breaks often enough and sometimes don't even stick at all which ensures your death? Of course.

On the other hand, those knockbacks that never fail and boost you across the map and have you run for ages to get back, lets whine over those instead.

Or... maybe just leave the imbalance discussion to another thread as this is not the proper place.

I didn't mean to turn this in an imbalance issue, as i'm the first to defend the game on that issue.
But it could be a plausible cause of death, wouldn't it? We've all been rooted to death now and then in scenario's.

 

[Pandemic]

Must have had the Magus magic rez debuff on you because it's not possible unless you have nil (or minus) rez.

Also.

What the hell were you doing sitting in range of a sorc for SIX SECONDS?!

lol was concentrating on trying to kill either Tsaplis or Shafti forget which

 

[vajb]

I didn't mean to turn this in an imbalance issue, as i'm the first to defend the game on that issue.
But it could be a plausible cause of death, wouldn't it? We've all been rooted to death now and then in scenario's.

Yes, true though. More often am I being thrown across the map though, into the lava by someone.

My point was, that when you get hit by the first doombolt, its too late to get away from the second, if you're afraid of being twoshot, unless you've got 100% control over everyone that're targetting you.

 

[Dredge]

Once you get the morale level 2 tactic that increases casting speed...its all over. Those 3s cast spells get eaten up. Dont waste it til you are sitting at 100 dhar with a healer though.

I was watching the AOE critting for 1.2k on clumps of enemies every 2 seconds yesterday, fantastic.