Sorcerer and Wizard questions

[CliffyG]

My missus plays a 31 fire wizzy, her current template is 50 Fire, 20 Earth and 4 in Ice. She wants to know if it's worth dropping to 19 in Earth and missing out on the LVL 20 Direct Damage & Snare [AE] so she can get the LVL 7 Direct Damage [PB] [AE]. The reason she wants to do this is because we are both under the impression that this will uncover stealthers in the area (pls say if we are wrong).

Also she gonna be starting up a sorcerer alt very shortly and using an Avalonian. She's gonna definately spec to 44 in domination but is wondering whether it's worth speccing to 30 in disorientation as she probably won't use the hinder resist spells so it's a case of moving up 10 levels just for 1 spell, Root [AE] and then miss out on the Direct Damage & Snare in telekenisis. So it's a case of

Disorientation: 21
Telekinesis: 23
Domination: 44

or

Disorientation: 30
Telekinesis: 8
Domination: 44

 

[old.mattshanes]

In my opinion pbaoe is a definite for a wiz to be decent in rvr,i would of gone 48 ice 24 earth seems to be the best rvr template if you want to be involved in keep raids a lot.

 

[hrodelbert]

I agree with Matt.

Although the albion pbaoe is inferior to the other realms pbaoe, due to both casting times and the spec line, it is still very good. I played an ice wizard for a while a very much enjoyed it

 

[CliffyG]

She wants to stay specced in fire though. From what you're saying though it's worth dropping the 1 level in earth for the first ice pbaoe. Her sole intention for it is to uncover stealthers not to do them damage.

 

[old.mattshanes]

If i were you i would message nomercy,walker or mustrum in game they seem to do well with their fire wizzies in rvr i don't think any of them use the boards.

 

[hrodelbert]

yes get the pbaoe then

 

[Saturnine]

Having 44 domination sounds tempting but it's really not worth it.
With 34 you have the 2nd best mez, 2nd best STR/CON debuff and best pet-charm. With the 395 specialisation points it costs to nudge that up to 44 you get a fearsome 12 extra seconds on the mez, it expands the radius a tiny bit and your STR/CON debuff goes up an equally trivial amount.
Now, if you take 34 mind that leaves the only remaining sensible option to throw the rest into body/disorientation. This will give you a good nuke spell, increase the general damage (thus healing) of your lifedrain, give you some PvE-happy heat/cold debuffs for your fellow academy memebers. It`ll also give you an AoE root which is the perfect match for.

AoE Mez --> Purge --> AoE Root --> "FFS NERF CASTERS!"

It's not worth putting any points into matter beyond leftovers as your not going to be using DoTs that much - leave those to cabs - and you`ll just want as much power into your "real" form of damage you can get for your money.

If you still have your heart set on 44 mind, then I'd still advise you put every point you can thats left into body. Even with the snare-nuke matter is still a gimmick and body puts power into the nuke/lifedrain you already have anyway - so it makes more sense.

Hope this helps - been a while sinse I`ve played but I'm sure sorcery mechanics haven't changed too much

 

[CliffyG]

OK thanks all. I'll get my missus to read this.

 

[old.Atrox]

44mind are not that good.
With purge, resists, group purge and instant CC
you'll lose the Mezz.warfare anyway.
And 44mind are not that viable in RvR.

I would suggest either
41body 35mind ( great in PvE solo highred/low purps, works good in RvR, 2nd best DD and aemezz, lvl50 pet )
or
48Body 24mind ( Worthless in PvE, Works ok in RvR, you will need a group for this spec to replace the lack of Pet. You'll get Best DD, almost as hard as Fire Wizzys spec dd )

You can go Full Matter aswell, I didnt like that spec thou so I wont comment on that 1

41body 35mind is the spec I would recommend, since it's the most flexible spec.

 

[spyte]

Can't speak for sorc but as a Fire wizzy I have 50 fire 20 ice and to be honest rarely has the pbaoe uncovered a stealther.

Keep defence if you stand at the right place then yep you have a reasonable chance but on open ground not much at all.

Also Fire wizzys are much beloved on Keep raids as well though we do tend to get bored fast if it's not defended.

If it really comes to the crunch try one way then respec if your disapointed in how it turns out.

Well Good luck in your Leveling and I hope to hunt beside you in RvR one day.

Taroc Wizard of 50 Season's & Proud Myriddion of the Realms
Breathing Helps Paladin of 49 Season's & Gods Warder

 

[jodieg]

Thanks for the help everyone I'm definitely keeping my wizzy as a Fire one though

 

[leviathane]

gotta agree 41 body 35 mind works well...

 

[Krillin.]

i was just checking out catacombs and i can't understand the spec you guys are saying? Do the sorcerer spell lines get moved around soon ? My alt is lvl 36 so as such i am trying to choose a template. Was thinking 35 mind 39 body and rest in matter according to catacombs but your guys templates confuses me :s

anyone help me out ?

 

[old.Atrox]

I didnt like the matter line so I wont mention it.
Spec: 41body 35Mind
You get:
Second best DD ( 163 value ),
Second best AEmezz ( 59sec 350radius ),
Highest Charm ( LvL50 pets, Humanoid/Animal/Insect/Magic ),
Second best con/str debuff ( 54 value, do not debuff for that thou ),
Second best Dex/Qui debuff ( 58 value, same with this debuff as with con/str )
Second best AEroot ( 49sec 350radius )
30% resist debuffs ( Heat/cold/Matter )

So, With this spec you'll have a Sorcerer with LvL50 pet, the dmg are ok but not a killer. You'll have good Con/Str debuff and a good Dex/Qui ( Both are instant but on same timer, 5s ).
Your CC will be ok, Low resist rate on mezz and root, long enough time on the mezz, same radius as the other realms primary CC'ers.

This spec is good for those that still want the lvl50 pet, want the ability to perform good in PvE and in RvR, more to the CC then the damage in RvR. I recommend this spec for new Sorcs.

Spec: 48Body 24Mind
You get:
Best DD ( 209 value )
Second best Charm ( LvL40pets, Humanoid/Animal/Insects/Magic )
Third AEmezz ( 46sec 300radius )
4th Con/Str Debuff ( 36 value, 350 radius )
50% Resist Debuffs ( Cold/Heat/Matter )
Best Dex/Qui Debuff ( 70 Value )
Second best AEroot ( 49sec 350radius )

So, with this spec your more to the damage side then the CC, you have a higher resist rate on your aemezz and lower radius then the other realms primary CC'rs.
The DD are hard, enemys with low body resist will be hit for 400+, 450 - 500 damage hits are not rare on these kind people .
You will only be able to charm lvl40 pets thou, this is a draw back in PvE ( and RvR in some cases ).
You are pretty much bound to group both in RvR and PvE ( thou the DD helps you in solo RvR, high resist rate on mezz will get you killed )


You also have the 44mind spec, I have not tried this so I will not comment on it, I leave that for those who have, thou on the paper it basicly gives you one hell of an AEmezz and not much more.