Sorc Question

[Elewyth(TLSOA)]

Any post the Lvl cap for Sorc charm spells? i.e what each charm spell can charm maximum before ill need to spec to get the next one...

trying to build a body / mind sorc and would like to keep yellow pets but do decent dmg, cant seem to find any info as to how low i can keep my mind as i lvl.

cheers.

 

[Fedaykin]

at 50 you need 34 mind to charm a yellow pet

1,7,12,20,34 are the levels you get the charms

 

[Wildfire]

40 body 36 mind (34 required for the yellow charm)

 

[Event]

http://home.comcast.net/~quix76/daoc/My_Sorc_comments.htm

 

[Tootz]

http://daoc.catacombs.com/cbuilder2.cfm?Sorcerer

 

[Dawn]

40body 36mind isnt a spec for more damage, its a spec for yellow mezz + yellow root, compared to 44mind 30body which is red mezz + blue root. 50lvl base lifetap does still more damage than 35 lvl spec nuke, and is faster too, there is absolutely no reason to use the 35 spec over the lifetap in general.

 

[CliffyG]

Lvl1-Charm - max pet lvl10
Lvl7-Charm - max pet lvl15
Lvl12-Charm - max pet lvl26
Lvl20 Charm - max pet lvl40
Lvl32 Charm max pet lvl50

 

[Wildfire]

If you want to gimp your char and base your spec around your yellow pet rather than your spellcasting ability .... ok then.

 

[CliffyG]

If you want to gimp your char and base your spec around your yellow pet rather than your spellcasting ability .... ok then.

I always find a blue / green con pet pretty uselss at keeping agro of anything above yellow con. They don't hit hard enough and they die far too quickly. If you're in a decent group everyday then it's fine to have a lower con pet but having a yellow con pet has been invaluable to me.

 

[Elewyth(TLSOA)]

If you want to gimp your char and base your spec around your yellow pet rather than your spellcasting ability .... ok then.

\aye its not that i want to gimp my spec... completely the opposite, i solo a LOT, im not a fan of grping unless in RvR but i like to PvE farm some aswell, i really wanted the yellow pet for cash farming solo... yes RvR will be a bigger thing for this char.. but what am i losing by taking 32 mind as a minimum? sure my main role will be mezzer but if i spec solely for mez...well my dmg output for anything else will be pretty shit,.. im trying to strike a balance for good mez / good quick DD damage for when the shit hits the fan and i need to MoC and drop the fecker on me... afaik if i dont spec high enuff in body the only thing ill be hitting is the dirt...

Thanks for that list Cliffy thats exactly what i was looking for, couldnt find the lvl cap on each charm spell, thatll help a lot... so most say 36 mind? rest body... does anyone with this spec have any probs dealing dmg? and any experiences solo farming? TOA or otherwise?

 

[Wyleia]

I was 34 mind 41 body since i started the game (respeccing to 36 mind/40 body after the patch that gave us the mezz resist chant + power song buff)..

IMO this was my favorite spec for pve and rvr.

You get two forms of AE 60 second cc (root/mezz)

yellowcon pet which helps in rvr for interrupt and pve for tanking

You get the second best resists debuffs, so if you are pveing with a wizzard, you can debuff their dmg for better results, or in rvr do the same.

You have 40 in your nuking line, +11 from your SC-ed suit, you are over 50, and do hit quite hard, which is good for rvr/pve

You get mana regen 4 buff

You get the second best self mezz decrease chant buff

You get a yellowcon pet

You get a 60 second aemezz


The 40body 36mind is the best of both worlds. For damange and crowd control, especially in pve. this spec rocks. Used it for a year before going chanter

 

[Wildfire]

"Yellow pet" can mean so many things. Until you've actually played the class and realise that 99% of yellow pets are just as shitty as each other, you don't begin to realise that when a sorc praises yellow pets, they're really praising Frostweavers, Boreal Cockatrices and Empyrean Elders. These are the pets you spec for, the rest are just the fodder that we use when they're the only option.

Edit: And now to answer the question (d'oh). Why spec for yellow pets if you're soloing? A couple of examples. You're soloing in odins. You find a few mids, mezz them. Two melee/healer classes purge (for sake of argument - if two casters purge you're really fucked either way) and charge you. You sic your frostweaver on one, and root the other. Two seconds later, your pet has rooted its target and started putting it through interrupt hell with nukes. Over time the pet will close and start to melee - if the other player tries to run, they don't stand a chance, iceweavers are too quick.

Meanwhile you've either killed the guy you rooted (if you have high body, this bit doesn't really apply to mind sorcs - if you have to use both CC methods before you start nuking you're really in trouble) or are running from him. If he needs finishing off, just re-sic the pet and let it nuke him down. Otherwise, charges or QC usually do the job.

In any generalised situation, if a player is beating on you, sic your frostweaver on them - within 2-3 seconds they'll be out of your hair - these guys SPAM their insta-root proc.

Anyway, in hib... soloing... you get yourself an Empyrean Elder. Boom, insta yellow spec buffs. Dex, Con, Int. Sweet. So anyway, you run off and meet another player. I wouldn't really recommend taking on hib casters unless you get the jump, because being stunned REALLY sucks, and sends you home in a box 3/4 of the time. Anyway, things go bad and you end up being beaten up by a BM. Your health starts dropping but then your pet (which you have on passive) turns the whole thing around because it HEALS BETTER THAN MOST CLERICS. So then you turn around, /dance a bit, then staff your opponent (hero, BM, champ, whatever) to death. VERY satisfying.

"Why get yellow pets? They only have more HPs... there's no advantage to having them over blue/green ones."LIKE, WHATEVER DUDE.

 

[Tootz]

If you're going to be playing your sorc, and not getting powerleveled (like half the alb sorcs out there now since they became all fotm thanks to inconnus and mana crack) then here's a few bits of advice.

A yellow con pet is a must until you hit 50 at least. This is mainly for PvE yes, but if you solo in RvR then you're gonna need an equal level pet to give you that helping hand - just like wildfires posted above, they can really make all the difference if you choose the right one.

You also want enough in body so that you can do some pretty heavy damage, and the least I would say is to spec 28 in body (this will give you a nice spec nuke that does about 200-250 damage and uses hardly any power up. If you opt to leave it at that, then you'll get the best AOE mezz at 44, and the best mana crack at 46. You also get the best self mezz resist enhancement. This is the very least I would take body to.

One of the more popular specs is to take body to 31 and mind to 44. This will still give you the best AOE mezz, but you will lose the best mana crack. To compensate though, you'll get an aoe root, and you'll do a little bit more nuking damage than you used to.

Another good spec, and the one I use, is 39 in body, and 36 in mind. In my opinion, this is both the best for PvE, and RvR. Using the lvl35 body nuke, you'll find killing mobs easy, taking yellows down in 3-5 hits, and it doesn't chew up that much power. You also get a new improved aoe root at lvl39. As well as this, you'll get 3 very nice debuffs for heat/cold/matter. This also makes you a great partner for any matter cabbies, or fire/ice wizards out there as you'll improve the damage they do massively. The only downside to this spec is you only have a yellow trim aoe mezz, which, although it lasts almost as long as the highest lvl one, it will get resisted a bit more (though not massively). With this spec you still get to have a lvl50 pet, and you'll keep the 2nd best mana crack.

Anyway, hope this helps as well as the other bits of good advice on here.

 

[Generation]

44 mind 31 body

Don't be fooled with the seemingly low body spec, you can still nuke damn hard with +skill, +rr bonus, and some +int/int cap items. You'll get the top ae mezz which not only lasts a little longer and has fewer resists than the lvl34 one, it also has a slightly larger radius which is very handy for catching enemies who /follow at the back of their group.

In PvE you'll have no problem soloing with your yellow pet, simply pull with a debuff, set the pet on the mob, confuse it, and nuke away till it dies. You'll have the 2nd top mana crack and regain power fairly quickly.

In RvR you'll have a decent self buff that lowers mezz duration, as well as a nice group mezz reduction chant. As mentioned already, the pet you choose can make a big difference to how well you perform in rvr, get a nice pet and your job becomes a little easier. If you're soloing the yellow pet is invaluable, especially if you're after stealthers When they pop on you just sprint away and let your speed buff kick in, you can then kite the enemy and send your pet to bash away on them. If they stop to fight the pet you can turn and nuke em down with base lifetap, they can't run off and restealth cos of the pet so they're pretty much screwed.