Some Understanding

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old.President Gas

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I've been reading some of the posts talking about cheat accusations.

While I would agree that many of these people are complete idiots, it may be worthwhile understanding where a lot come from.
I will give you my own experience as an example. I only started playing CS about 3 months ago. Before that I had never played an on-line game before.

When I finally got myself sorted out, I discovered a number of things that were extremely annoying. Not having any experience of on-line gaming before only made it worse.

These are the things I quickly discovered.

1. You are running along and see a player. You put your crosshairs on him and start shooting. You keep shooting. Eventually th e guy realises you are shooting at him and shoots back for about one-nanosecond. You die.

2. You see a player come out from behind an object. You retreat behind an object. Player you saw shoots you "round the corner". You die.

3. Player shoots you through a crate or wall. Next round you see a player go behind a crate or wall. You shoot through object. PLayer comes out from behind object and shoots. You die.

4. Player shoots you with a shotgun from all the way across the map.

5. You cannot shoot someone else with a shotgun from all the way across a map.

etc etc.

Of course I realise now, that a lot of these things are down to ping, skill and maybe a bit of luck. However, it is very frustrating to continually get shot when you are behind a wall etc and sometimes your temper gets the better of you.

Continual whining should of course be stamped upon, but remember those with dial up access will be experiencing something completely different from what you are so it may not be quite so obvious to them just how good you are.

Anyway, having said all that, why doesn't somebody run some kind of on-line instruction for CS? It's the only way I can see myself improving! :D

President Gas
 
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Moving Target

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moan moan moan!! :sleeping:

I have to agree it is fustrating sometimes.

Do yourself a favour and get beta 5.2 - the best
 
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old.President Gas

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I wasn't moaning, just pointing out some reasons that might cause others to moan

:D

President Gas
 
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ShockingAlberto

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simple answere:
dont play CS if your new to online gameing.
imo Q2 is the ebst way to learn about how to play with the inevitable latency youll get no matter what connection your on.

as for these annoying things, you must remember the HL netcode makes it so if you have your crosshair on someone and fire it will hit.
CS is hard for newbies because with alot of the rifles, if you miss with your first lot of bullets, the recoil will stop you getting any hits unless you stop shooting.

the thing that annoys me about CS is the huge number of online gaming newbies that play it.
no offence, but most of them havent even played through HL SP, let alone played HL DM.

thats another tip, SP is great for improving your aim. try and make it a goal in HL SP that you never use more than one magnum bullet per grunt, making yourself headshot each one will improve your aim no end.
 
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old.ignus

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A good way of learning would be to create a match with bots that gave you tracer rounds giving you a feel for where the bullets go, you could then reduce the brightness of the tracer rounds until you felt you could play without them.
 
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Ch3tan

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No never played HL single player past the bit where u first see g-man. Got incerdibly bored with it.
 
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ShockingAlberto

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gah!
how dare you!!!

hl sp owns, its on a par with q2 spffs!


anyway, you missed all the best bits. grunts become the main enemy, and they can be taken out with on headshot from the magnum, so you get very used to headshoting moving targets who are firing back with automatic weapons at any range.
 
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Ch3tan

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q2 single player? heh another pile of poo.

As far as single player games go, I have only enjoyed point and click games, the first two c&c titles and championship manager.
 
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old.ignus

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If you want a really challenging point and click game you should try homeworld, it's solid and complicated
 
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Ch3tan

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/me balks at the lack of understanding ignus shows of the point and click genre.

Homeworld is a RTS NOT a fUCKING point and click game.
 
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Stazbumpa

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But do u not have to point and click in it?
 
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Ch3tan

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Fine I wont argue the semantics of it.

If you dont understand gaming genres your a newbie, bottom line.

And if you dont understand the term point and click you've never played some great games.
 
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Moving Target

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Originally posted by ShockingAlberto
hl sp owns, its on a par with q2 spffs!


Hmm actually HL SP is quite a few times better than Q2 SP
 
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old.FatalDonkey

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Deus-Ex is good single player



/me ducks behind cover
 
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Fex

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Just a quick one to say that as i have also been playing CS for a short while (6 months to be exact) and in that time i feel that i have improved (thank god i couldn't stand another round ending with my score at 0-10 ) but there is a point to all this drivle, playing often and with ppl of a higher standard than my own )you know who you are :) ) has made me a better player and thus made the playing of the game more enjoyable. 1st post so please excuse the constant use of brackets
 
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ShockingAlberto

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if you'd spent 3 months playing SP HL or maybe SP Q2, then 3 months of CS, you would be alot better proberbly. CS isn't hard in terms of killing.
the 4 main rifles have pretty much 100% accuracy when standing still for single shots(and good accuracy for bursts when crouching).

what makes a good CS player is awareness and sense.
 
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Fex

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That was one of the points i tried to make albiet badly. Playing with ppl who are light years ahead of you in terms of tactics player awareness such as camp points, using sound to your advantage and all round tactics can only improve your game. When i die i tend to follow the better ppl on the server on chasecam watching what they do when they do it ect ect.
 
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old.ignus

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Originally posted by Ch3tan
Fine I wont argue the semantics of it.

If you dont understand gaming genres your a newbie, bottom line.

And if you dont understand the term point and click you've never played some great games.

Oh dear.

I try and be civilised and suggest something and Ch3tan has to be the idiot who starts the flame, a simple correction would have sufficed but no insult follows ch3tan where everhe posts. I guess pubity is getting the better of you isn't it? very well let the flame begin.
Ok if homeworld isn't a point and click game and is a RTS game then what the fuck is C&C. I'm guessing ch3tan only likes point and click games because it only requires one hand, thus giving him the ability to live up to being a wanker. The simple fact that you have corrected me over something so pathetic as a games genre proves that you are without a doubt the biggest nerd on these forums.
 
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Ch3tan

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c&c is a RTS never said it was a point and click game.

Also you really should lighten up, you really like to see trouble where there is none.

ps. your an ignorant cunt.
 
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old.ignus

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Originally posted by Ch3tan


Also you really should lighten up, you really like to see trouble where there is none.

ps. your an ignorant cunt.

1. Er you started this, you could have said no homeworld isn't classed as a point and click game its classed as an RTS.

2. ignorant of what exactly, game genres I admit but I don't think thats what you meant, if you want to insult me at least use an insult thats relevant.
 
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old.kennyken

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I know what your going through d00d, try going to http://bot.counter-strike.net/realbot and download realbot a s/p mode for counter strike after playing this for a week you'll inprove your game loads and you will be the one with the unbelivable kills. " its true its true"
 
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old.Kurt_Angle

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It's not, it's not:p


Bots on a lan die when you hit them, players online don't if there doing anything other than standing still, or heading in a straight line.

"And that is true"
 
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ShockingAlberto

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yea, ye dont want bots.

its not about competing on a fair level, its about getting used to moving the crosshair exactly to the ehad the instant you see the enmy.
with SP, you can aquire this skill with one playthrough of the game.
 
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ShockingAlberto

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can yiou have 2 types of bot ingame at one time?
put podbot on Cts, and realbot on Ts, maximum difficulty on both, and see which one wins over 15 minutes :eek:
 
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Ch3tan

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realbot and podbot are the best at the moment.
 
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old.jobbie

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all this talk of bots?

i have never even played v bots, wouldnt know how to install them anyways, the best practise you can get is online

if you want to test something out, do it online

best way

i mean you could shoot bots all day, then go online and still be papa, cant beat a human opponent, so unexpected, well apart from ch3tan who is so predictable :) joke m8y, love yer really.


bots,bots,bots stop, Soul is getting the horn

feck, dinner finished, bah
 
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Moving Target

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Originally posted by Aph3x
Teambot is the Daddy of all bots:clap:

nah its shit PODbot is still the best... thats why Gearbox employed the maker of the PODbot to write the AI for Counter-Strike: Condition Zero :p
 

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