some advice in case i get out of dillema

[Nuxtobatns]

I am seriously thinking of joining da easy mode

Therefore i am asking for advice on how to spec the 30 startup points for an Elf Blade specced NS (i dont go for luri cause i just prefer to look at an elf when i play)

Most possibly these 30 points will have to do even with the total design of the template...so post any good templates that need a certain weird spec of those 30 points

 

[Kaun_IA]

becouse you have goon qui and dex at start i dont advice you to put them there.

and you want to be blades...

15 str and 10 to con, thats what id do.

so you will have 55 str and 50 con at start.

 

[Neffneff]

i in hind-sight would have gone with:

10 str
10 dex (leaving option to go pierce...which i STRONGLY advise pre-RR5)
10 qui (to make templates easier)

i have been told that when you dont spec 10 con @ creation the first few points of aug con have a "catching up" effect where they actually give more hits per con than normal. also had someone confirm this recently.

 

[Ziz]

im 10/10/10 str/dex/quick ph34r!
if i remade id be 15 str 10 con

and pierce is easy mode compared to blades :/ yea yea remedy qq etc wtb good blade LW speed and evade stun then i can agree on blades easy mode lw's > physical weapons

 

[Mastade]

lol, the worst adding/zerging tard SB rerolls hib. plz go away ty

 

[Punishment]

i in hind-sight would have gone with:

10 str
10 dex (leaving option to go pierce...which i STRONGLY advise pre-RR5)
10 qui (to make templates easier)

i have been told that when you dont spec 10 con @ creation the first few points of aug con have a "catching up" effect where they actually give more hits per con than normal. also had someone confirm this recently.

Yup this is the way to go , as neff said when u spec aug con 2 and u havent put 10 points con u essentially get double hp from 1st 10 points of con from augs , this is deffo best for blades and pierce and saves u 10 points for template in qui :O

Also Ziz u crazy mofo 10 str @ start with +25 str on temp and no augs gives 320 str which is good tbh , 15 is a waste .

Enjoy Ezmode <that is if not having 60con60str or in midgards case 70str60con race as an assasin > Ahh well thats life ><

 

[Zvixx]

why go quickness on any elf or luri when they got so high anyways ?

 

[Chrstffr]

10 str/con/dex, if you cant make a good template with around 45-50qui in it, then you dont deserve to play

 

[Neffneff]

i think people r missing the point.

10 qui @ creation means 10 less in template. and has some strange catch up thing goin on with first 2ish lvls of aug con..resulting in a SMALL SC advantage compared to goin 10 con. its not much. but hey. its something.

and incase you didnt know..elf with no aug qui needs 59 qui to cap...49 if specced 10 qui @ creation.

ill try and explain the aug con thing with an example..by no means accurate but just to get the idea accross

elf with +10 con @ creation buffed has lets say 1800 hits...aug con 2 gets him another 48 hits = 1848 hits ---has to get +59 qui in temp to cap
elf with +10 qui @ creation buffed has lets say 1760 hits...aug con 2 gets him another 88 hits = 1848 hits (first 10 points of aug con strangely get double hits) ----has to get only +49 qui to cap.

i know its weird, and these are by NO means the exact numbers..but essentially this is how i understand it to work. in the long run it seems you lose out from goin +con @ creation (as i did)..going +10 qui nets you the samish (not sure if its exactly the same) HPs as going con (if you spec aug con2) yet you need to SC 10 less qui..and so..the small SC advantage.


think im gonna go find myself an elf that specced +10 qui @ creation later and find out if im right bout this..i have heard it from several people though who assure me it is correct.

 

[Tallen]

I am seriously thinking of joining da easy mode

Therefore i am asking for advice on how to spec the 30 startup points for an Elf Blade specced NS (i dont go for luri cause i just prefer to look at an elf when i play)

Most possibly these 30 points will have to do even with the total design of the template...so post any good templates that need a certain weird spec of those 30 points

Always makes me chuckle, your worried about your 30 start points when by choosing an elf you have wasted 10 points in intelligence before you begin.

 

[Punishment]

i think people r missing the point.

10 qui @ creation means 10 less in template. and has some strange catch up thing goin on with first 2ish lvls of aug con..resulting in a SMALL SC advantage compared to goin 10 con. its not much. but hey. its something.

and incase you didnt know..elf with no aug qui needs 59 qui to cap...49 if specced 10 qui @ creation.

ill try and explain the aug con thing with an example..by no means accurate but just to get the idea accross

elf with +10 con @ creation buffed has lets say 1800 hits...aug con 2 gets him another 48 hits = 1848 hits ---has to get +59 qui in temp to cap
elf with +10 qui @ creation buffed has lets say 1760 hits...aug con 2 gets him another 88 hits = 1848 hits (first 10 points of aug con strangely get double hits) ----has to get only +49 qui to cap.

i know its weird, and these are by NO means the exact numbers..but essentially this is how i understand it to work. in the long run it seems you lose out from goin +con @ creation (as i did)..going +10 qui nets you the samish (not sure if its exactly the same) HPs as going con (if you spec aug con2) yet you need to SC 10 less qui..and so..the small SC advantage.


think im gonna go find myself an elf that specced +10 qui @ creation later and find out if im right bout this..i have heard it from several people though who assure me it is correct.

I am one of those , I specced 10/str/10dex/10qui @ start with elph blades spec @ rr3 , and i can confirm as my ras are purge 2 aug con 2 mos1 u get exactly 200% hp per point of con for 1st 10 points of con with aug con 2 if u dont spec con @ creation , atm my temp gives 1947hp with just aug con 2 :O

Template spam inc next post , no +11 cd but im going 50 cs as soon as rr5-6 with toughness4 for teh 2200hp prawnage .

Buffed my stats atm with aug con 2 are

320Str 280ish con 365 dex 250 qui 1947hp

 

[Punishment]

Config Report

Stats

Str: 100 Int: 0 Hits: 372
Con: 82 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 82 Cha: 0
Qui: 49 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 25 Energy: 15 Crush: 25
Cold: 11 Matter: 13 Thrust: 28 (3)
Heat: 25 Spirit: 21 (5) Slash: 25 (2)

Skills

11 Stealth

4 Envenom

11 Critical Strike

4 Celtic Dual

11 Blades

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dex

172 Hits

25 Str

5 Con

Other Bonuses

8 Melee Damage Bonus

10 AF Bonus

7 Melee Speed Bonus

14 Style Damage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard Of Valour
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Stealth - 99 imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 3 Blades - 99 rough Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 13 Dexterity - 99 imperfect Vapor Essence
Gem 4: 9 Slash Resist - 99 polished Watery Shielding
Utility: 66.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Blades - 99 imperfect Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 3 Critical Strike - 99 rough Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 5 Slash Resist - 99 flawed Watery Shielding
Utility: 66.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 36.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 3 Blades - 99 rough Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 10 Strength - 99 flawed Fiery Essence
Gem 4: 11 Heat Resist - 99 faceted Heated Shielding
Utility: 63.67

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 13 Quickness - 99 imperfect Airy Essence
Gem 2: 52 Hits - 99 faceted Blood Essence
Gem 3: 7 Body Resist - 99 imperfect Dusty Shielding
Gem 4: 11 Cold Resist - 99 faceted Icy Shielding
Utility: 57.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 36.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 9 Slash Resist - 99 polished Watery Shielding
Gem 2: 9 Crush Resist - 99 polished Fiery Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 99 imperfect Earthen Shielding
Utility: 64.00

Right Hand
Name: Malice Axe
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Left Hand
Name: croc tooth
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 27 Strength
Effect 2: 27 Dexterity
Effect 3: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 3 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 36.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Paidrean Necklace
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Dreadstalker jewel
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 12 Dexterity
Effect 2: 3 Stealth
Effect 3: 4 Celtic Dual
Effect 4: 4 Critical Strike
Effect 5: 4 Envenom
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 83.00

Belt
Name: Kracken Tail Belt
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 2: 8 Body Resist
Effect 3: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 8 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 44 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.00

Right Ring
Name: Deranged Ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 21 Quickness
Effect 4: 60 Hits
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 49.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring o The heavens
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 38.00

Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of heavenly bodies
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 80 Hits
Effect 3: 48 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 4: 7 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Left Wrist
Name: Zahur Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 60 Hits
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00


Hope this helps :O

 

[Gear]

Άσε ρε παπάρα που θέλεις να κάνεις και hib, δε ρουφάς τα βυζιά της μάνας σου όπως ξέρεις;

 

[sphir]

Άσε ρε παπάρα που θέλεις να κάνεις και hib, δε ρουφάς τα βυζιά της μάνας σου όπως ξέρεις;

word !

 

[nOmoreCOAL]

I am seriously thinking of joining da easy mode

Most possibly these 30 points will have to do even with the total design of the template...so post any good templates that need a certain weird spec of those 30 points

ROLFMAO
the sb who kills any1 n says that in /as
the sb who says he shouldnt stealth cause he is in godmode n kills anything'
the sb who says he should be in a grp cause he hits more/just as hard as zerker
the sb who has changed 10 templates in a couple of months but always whines not havin the 10 str 1 con 9 quick in the beginnin (after makin 10 times that same char)

nyxto = COAL

 

[Spector]

Nuxto, i seriously think you should just play mid, adding/zerging as stealther is the worst thing you could do, and thats what you're doing pretty much 99.99% of the time your online!

 

[Elftor]

Speaking of adding..
Whats with stealthers and that?
How did this "no add" code develope? I get that it's nice with 1v1 fights or atleast even fights... But I dont really see every caster / visible melee class that solo post about it. What is so different? I dont get it >.<

 

[Spector]

Elftor, he have added on me so many times when i've had a fair 1vs1 so he can just stay in mid instead!, and i've seen him add on others while i didnt add becuase i know that adding on a fair 1vs1 is lame!

Spector - 50 Sniper Ranger

 

[Nuxtobatns]

To answer some of the previous

I also think that 10 points in Con isnt that well placed

The template seems nice...dont like only 7%speed and low CD...but stats/hp/resists and 4 env is really nice..ty for posting it.

For Mastade/Gear : i add/grp with 3 more peeps only when i got out solo ... end up making 2-3k/pour solo (mostly near Beno, Agra side) and get tired of RBing-Porting-Docks drill over and over and over again ..when a couple of fuktards like (archers/casters/hib fgs/and remedy-sidestun grps of 3 hibs) kill me when i am having nice fights ... (BTW.. Sinestro and Miwa... omg lol..at least w8 me to finish the others so that i can get my hands on u )

For NoMoreCoal :
Who the hell r u ?? U mean to 'know' me. Y ... i made made more than 7 templates since my rr1...changed more than 8 specs and 15 RA specs...so..whats the prob with u ??
As for the i tell .as when i kill 1 .. u mean the lol FoM .as /// or the enlarged chat RS .as ?? (i guess killing 2 peeps...and the adding rr5 scout while engaging him with 3% hp..is something to be excited when especially being an sb)
For the grping matter...u talk pve ? or rvr where i only grped with some guildes for tower taking ? .. and yes ... a nice RR sb with 44-50 la and be as good as a low rr not-really templated zerker. So i dont see your point in that ... i am sure when i told that ..u didnt get it correctly ( mainly i blame your intelligence). The classes r not similar and therefore cannot be compared.

PS: Gear ... nice e-penis...come to New Smirni to tell me the same plz...will truly make my day (Not so friendly advice : bring some friends too to take u home crying)

Ha . I think that covers it for the time being ...

NF sux... almost as bad as OF .. but at least we had SeeHidden and Str relics

Edit : for most of u ... i am start starting to see u as walking RPS... so i nail them if i can ... (many r excluded for that tho)

 

[Steffan-]

Edit : for most of u ... i am start starting to see u as walking RPS... so i nail them if i can ... (many r excluded for that tho)

Have fun start starting m8!

 

[Mastade]

I have no words for how lame you are. I seriously dont get it. You now have the realm rank, tools and experrience to play your SB with some dignity and respect.. but.. you still insist on using your entire day on adding and zerging on everything in sight, why? - Playing a solo stealther, you are in complete controll, no1 is telling you to add on anyone. Thats the only god damn reason i play my NS. But you just have the urge to be the guy that everyone treats like dirt?. You make me sick

 

[Chrstffr]

PS: Gear ... nice e-penis...come to New Smirni to tell me the same plz...will truly make my day (Not so friendly advice : bring some friends too to take u home crying)

"look at me, I will beat you up LOL!!!11 /flex"

retard.

 

[censi]

newbotoxins!

 

[Matriarch|Sneakers]

I don't really get why you would make a elf nightshade and ask about how u best will place ur 30 start points, rly?

Not like they make a huge diffrence anyway and since u already lost 10 stats from QU into INT ( beeing an elf ) it should matter even less to u, the min-maxing that is.

For the ppl telling him to go 10 qu instead of 10 con, i don't really think that matters either since if ur gonna waste 4 realm points getting con2 why not waste it in getting qu2, if ur so bad at making temps or really think that getting 250 qu instead of 240 is gonna make any diffrence at all.

And nux, you do add alot, would be nice to here an exponation for it. As i see it some ppl play for the rps and thinks they get respect or some other wierd satisfaction from it. And others play for nice fights. So wich one of those two are you?

And for the person asking why adding or no adding is such a big deal for 'stealthers' my answer is,
that 2,3,4,5vs1 in a stealth fight where u get str/con debuffed and have 1300 hits and both/all swining near cap spd @ 200ish dmg / hit ( with remedy id hit a sb for around 500 dmg / round, with relics more ) is = game over. And anyone adding in fights just proves that he is so weak and incompetent that he can't kill anything on hs own.

 

[Nuxtobatns]

Chrstffr Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuxtobatns
PS: Gear ... nice e-penis...come to New Smirni to tell me the same plz...will truly make my day (Not so friendly advice : bring some friends too to take u home crying)



"look at me, I will beat you up LOL!!!11 /flex"

retard.

U may overlooked it...but in case u cant read greek ... it was something insulting towards me that can justify a nice beating ( Censi:no botoxins : .. just 5 years Thai-boxing)


As to the ones that say ... I Dont solo.... i welcome u to join me the times i play...not u... that is from monring around 10-12 gmt....till the hours u zerg-add-duo-trio (that is i /quit when u start...or if my frineds Eldergod/Moriane/Mylittleye r logged so we can try and fight back)

Ofc there is the opposite view...They 'force' us to grp up...we start our runs....we encounter some of u player that do solo (join the club) and just hammer u down cause there is no time to be polite/need to pintch up the rps per hours/our it might even be u that was grped in the first place...

According to my thinking... as some1 has stated before /// 2 stealthers is 1 too many...

So to end this up..i welcome u to join the fights (i am near beno...jump bridgehead...search it a bit...head Crossing....and finally the Beno tower bridge)

PS: since i encounter Hibs at excaclty the half rate as albs...(it is reduced even more in the morning noon) ... i dont blame u that u dont know that i really solo and prefer it ... 420 solo kills and rising...greddy for that Lone Enforcer title

PS2: btw...i know elf isnt the best NS race...but thats the one i would like to play IF i roll....and the post wasnt originally to tell me how to spec them...
Was a question ... IN Comparison to a gr8 template u might have that needs a weird speccing of those to work perfectly...like the one i have for sb that needs 9qui/10str/1dex/10con (as was previously and with mean way stated by a lol motherfuker that i figured out who he is)

PS3: i reconsidered rolling NS after the gr8 fights and respect i got and gave (yet again) to many fellow albs

PS4:I will always add and even fight side by side with albs against vamps as i have done in the past.

 

[Gryni]

Retard.

 

[Gear]

There are some people from oppossite sides that earn respect, and not only you welcome them, but also you help em out anyway you can to get started.

1. You're not one of them, one can clearly see that you're not welcome in hib (dunno if you can tho).

2. OMG I'm afraid to step out of my house maitz0z!!1!!1one!

 

[Neffneff]

For the ppl telling him to go 10 qu instead of 10 con, i don't really think that matters either since if ur gonna waste 4 realm points getting con2 why not waste it in getting qu2,

you just aint following it are yer?

the idea is..that speccing 10 qui and not con @creation allows you to take advantage of a weird "feature" of the game where upon buying aug con2 (most shades do @ some point) your HPs will "catch-up" as you will get double the hits from the first 10 con compared to someone who specced 10 con @creation. thus...essentially giving you the hit points for having +10 con @creation for free...as you havnt specced it. the same thing does not happen for qui.

its a VERY small SC advantage. but hey..when someone asks what's best..i try to tell them.

 

[Nuxtobatns]

Gear quote :
There are some people from oppossite sides that earn respect, and not only you welcome them, but also you help em out anyway you can to get started.

continued that i am one that didnt deserve it


..Well...right back at u
Especially to a guy that i dont even know how his chars look like...cause i might have encountered him once or twice

Gaymer...what happened ? tired to zerg and spam remedy ? havent seen u near Beno last month during the hours i play

 

[Himse]

Seriously. im starting to think this guy is either A) retarded or B) retarded..