Solo Heretank Template

kirennia

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This is the best template I've come up with yet without using RoGs or so I think. If anyone could tell me if I'm missing anything, please do. I've tried to use up 37.5OC on the Arms but I just can't so it's at 36.5 for now.

My requirements:
85quickness would leave me at 250quickness overall
10%melee speed is a must for 3xlevi in viper
101 strength
101dex
11flex is a must
75cons
200hps (more would be nice)
EP is 100%essential for me, despite it having crappy acuity in there
Croc ring for obvious reasons
10%melee damage would be nice
As high style damage as possible
8%magic damage is the cap without using caster veriosn of Golm which sucks


(argh, SC calc is bugged so I can't copy/paste)


I ended up with this :

100 strength
74 Constitution
101 dexterity
83 quickness
204 hit points

26 body
26 Cold
27 Heat
17 Energy
11 Matter
19 Spirit (+5 racial)
22 Crush (+2 racial)
23 Thrust
29 Slash (+3 Racial)

+11 Flexible
+3 sheild :(

5% buff bonus
5% style Damage
13 quickness cap
4% spell range
8%spell damage
9%melee Damage
10%melee speed
22 Armour Factor
26 dexterity cap
28 strength cap

Artifacts used : GoV/croc/EP

Drops used : Feathered Wrap,
Katoriis shadow pin,
plaited hair of malamis,
Leviathan Ring Of The Deep,
Black Water Bracer,
Cyclone Bracer,
Maleficient Darkspire Velvet Pants,
Heretic Dextera Barbed Chain (champ weapon),
Maleficient Darkspire Buckler.


I know I usually leave silly holes which I forget about so please tell me if I have or haven't. Even replying 'no obvious problems' is a help.
 

mmmpie

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Yes,well put 2gether!
and no comments...coz i got zero ideás how to find u extra style dmg% :(
Can only say,nice Template u made Kirennia!
Ur tic will be soooo sexeh!:)

And ur 100 str and 101 dex will do the trick im sure!
 

kirennia

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Excellent, so anyone got 100plat I can borrow? ;) ;) ;)

Time to go farm me thinks.
 

crispy

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I thought heretics put in 50AF just for the op'dness :)

But might be bit overkill :p
 

Illtar

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crispy said:
I thought heretics put in 50AF just for the op'dness :)

But might be bit overkill :p

AF is hardly good when you already have really high AF...

Its already hard enough to get all the good stuff you want in it..
 

Golena

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Personally i'd aim to squeeze a touch more matter resist in there. Not sure what to lose for it tho.

Good soloers are almost bound to use legendaries against a target that could potentially be specced PD 4 or 5.
 

CorNokZ

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I like it alot.. Even tho you are flex spec :( I like crush more, dunno why :D

But it's really uber imo!
 

kirennia

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Golena said:
Personally i'd aim to squeeze a touch more matter resist in there. Not sure what to lose for it tho.

Good soloers are almost bound to use legendaries against a target that could potentially be specced PD 4 or 5.

I'm usually really precise about wanting my resists capped but I thought that those people are gonna be a rarity and to combat them, I've specced for 'the empty mind' so as soon as I see those weapons, I'll fire that anyway :D

Thinking of lowering my offence to higher my defence now; guess that'd mean 5-10 less str and 5 less dex to help add in other items...
 

kirennia

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Don't ever use this template; Katorii's shadow pin stats that I got from ethinargs are completely wrong :(

Trying to rebuild a new template now out of items I've still got...will post it when I'm done.
 

eggy

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I would definitely get high con/hits in there.
 

Illtar

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A few things to add..

You want higher HP defo, just scrap some unneeded resists (spirit/matter maybe even thrust).

Does the darkspire shield have a heal reactive proc? Heal proc on shield is pretty good, usually heals me 200-500 in a regular 1vs1 fight (sometimes even more, <3 engage)

Bracer of Zoarkart can completely screw over any enemy, its VERY good.

try making a template with ability to change between SCW and Champ Weapon, if you are set on one weapon though, SCW >> CW.

CW has no procs, which blows, while SCW is easily one of the best weapons in the game..
 

Illtar

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kirennia said:
This is the best template I've come up with yet without using RoGs or so I think. If anyone could tell me if I'm missing anything, please do. I've tried to use up 37.5OC on the Arms but I just can't so it's at 36.5 for now.

My requirements:
85quickness would leave me at 250quickness overall
10%melee speed is a must for 3xlevi in viper
101 strength
101dex
11flex is a must
75cons
200hps (more would be nice)
EP is 100%essential for me, despite it having crappy acuity in there
Croc ring for obvious reasons
10%melee damage would be nice
As high style damage as possible
8%magic damage is the cap without using caster veriosn of Golm which sucks

75quickness left me as a briton with 70 starting qui on 238, perfect for aug quick 2.. Quite puzzled how 85 can get you exactly 250

10% melee speed, yep a must.

101 str is not by a long shot a must, better things to do with you template room, 90ish str will work

101 dex is pretty key though (blocking wins your fights)

11 flex isnt a must, 9-10 flex is by any means a disaster, +skill over 50
doesnt have to much impact on non 2handers

75 con, yeah

should aim for 280ish hits at least

EP is beyond doubt essential

Croc being the best item in the game is pretty obvious aswell

melee damage, while good, it isnt key to winning 1vs1 fights

style damage is pretty negliable on a heretic

magic damage is good, and the champ weapon has it, but really the proc on SCW makes SCW way more worth while, using both is the win though. Use CW as your crush damage weapon.

i consider BoZ a must

i consider CB to good not to have aswell, 34 utility, 5 stat cap and 40 hits cap and a decent use, whats not to like?

Crown of Zahur is decent aswell
 

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Illtar said:
75quickness left me as a briton with 70 starting qui on 238, perfect for aug quick 2.. Quite puzzled how 85 can get you exactly 250

I currently have 246 qucik fully buffed with 81quickness. I started off with quickness (wish we had starting stat respec stones).

Illtar said:
magic damage is good, and the champ weapon has it, but really the proc on SCW makes SCW way more worth while, using both is the win though. Use CW as your crush damage weapon.

Aye, I've scrapped champ weapon in my next template already.

Illtar said:
i consider BoZ a must

i consider CB to good not to have aswell, 34 utility, 5 stat cap and 40 hits cap and a decent use, whats not to like?

Crown of Zahur is decent aswell

The problem is that with EP/croc ring/bracer of zo, cere bracer and CoZ, you are left with a very bad tempalte with massive holes in it. You have to make sacrifices somewhere but I'm still not 100% sure where to make them :(

Feel free to try and make a better template :D

Remember it needs 85quickness though :(
 

kirennia

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Right, my SC calculator is still broken so I can't post the exact items without typing them all out :p I'm 99.9999% sure I've got the right stats on them all though this time. So this is what I've managed.

95str
77con
100dex
86quick

27 body
26 cold
27 heat
27 energy
19 matter
24(+5) spirit
22(+2) crush
22 thrust
27(+3) slash

232 hit points
+11flex
+0 sheild :(

5 buff bonus
10 quick cap
4 style damage
4 Spell damage
4 Spell range
8 melee damage
10 melee speed
20 AF bonus
20str cap
26dex cap

Artifacts used : Guard Of Valor, Eerie darkness stone, SCW, Croc tears ring, eternal plant, ceremonial bracer (qucik)

Drops used : Flowing Antalya Shawl, Plaited Hair Of Malamis, Leviathan Ring Of The Deep, Black Water Bracer, Epic gloves


To me this template just doesn't seem good enough. I've now got 16 heretic templates made, 8 solo and 8 group ones yet this is the best I can get still :( Either there is something wrong with me or it just aint possible to hit all the targets I'm trying to get. I think the extra 10 quickness needed is what is screwing me over; I'm considering just getting aug quick3 instead of 2.

If anyone wants to try and better it, please do...
 

kirennia

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Nother one done, I'll just do it as a comparison with the last one to avoid too much spam :

+5str
+3con
same dex
-10 quick

-2heat
-6 spirit
+4 crush
+3 thrust

+44hps

-1flex

+10 AF bonus
+5 str cap


Back to square one not knowing which to use now; both of them seem lacking to me. It doesn't seem like its worth dropping the 10 quickness (6RA points) to me; still didn't improve my situation much.
 

kirennia

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Got another one which I'm happier with :D Will compare it to the template 2 posts ago to save on typing/reading spam.

same str
same cons
same dex
same quick o_O didnt notice all these were the same before

-5%heat
-5%matter
+2%spirit
+3%crush
+3%thrust

same hits
-1flex

everythingelse is the same.

Can't beleive I've just completely redone the template with different items and ended up with almost the exact same template.....the main difference is that apart from 2xblack water bracer :( I've got all the other items for this current template.
 

Zoia

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Fix your SC calc and post the whole thing. :p
Hard to come up with any suggestions when i can't see the SCing.
It's often possible to get a couple of more % of resists etc, by tweaking the SCing.

Have you thought about using the epic leggings? The 130 heal proc on them is sweet and it has some decent stats and good caps.
Here's one of them new DF shields that might be nice as well.
http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=25563
 

kirennia

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My MSN is broken too sadly so I can't even pass it to someonelse to post

Using the latest version of korts, I've got no idea why it wont let me get a config report up :(

Any other SC config program I could put all the info into to pass it on?

prodical said:
nice templates mate. will still 2 shot you with chanter ;)

rr5/the empty mind ftw :D
 

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