Sociology

[Arnor]

btw india to tibet is nothing, you should try following the courier from Crauch to Ligen...that's class!

 

[old.giriam]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sociology

Originally posted by llixeraxu

"I don't think it's the game, just the competitiveness of people generally ...... and also I think the anonymity of the net, where people do or say things they wouldn't do or say in real life, i.e. put people down publically without a thought for their feelings, pretend you are something your not ...... just generally get away with murder because no one knows who the real person behind the BW/DAOC nick is. It's a licence to be as much of a git as you like and get away with it, for some I think."

its very nice of you to quote that again, ive asked you once what exact part of that you feel fit me, but you seem reluctant to spell it out. im terribly sorry but it would help me a lot of you put in your own words and made it a bit more spesific to me as a person.

</sarcasm>
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[Cloak_]

Originally posted by Wuren


:bore:

It's quite funny reading your posts on these forums cause most of the time u want other ppl to know that you have a LIFE.

Go write a book about walking form India to Tibet, I bet no one here is that interested really.

Dammit im agreeing with Wuren ffs

 

[elerand]

Two words really on this subject, condescending and snide.

19 and you think you're a qualified sociologist? Ok on paper, well maybe you can become a social worker, that sounds good doesn't it?

Philosophy? We should all think more? You do realise the majority of well known philosophers who came up with their own philosophys were well into their 30's/midlife, 19 means you know what someone else thinks, give it some time and you might be able to figure out some stuff on your own.

Dunno about you but I think you've taken the achievements of western society to a new arrogant height, you've walked from around asia a bit, well don't mean to burst your bubble son but your avg A lvl student in the UK does that sort of thing when taking a year out before uni, either that or they buy a car or go to Ibiza and contract VD of some kind.

I guess cos sociology is one of the sciences it sound very important but it's really statistical, pigeon hole type nonsense, it's a step below psychology, a field that likes to draw it's conclusion from the fact we are all roughly similar

 

[old.giriam]

Originally posted by elerand
Dunno about you but I think you've taken the achievements of western society to a new arrogant height, you've walked from around asia a bit, well don't mean to burst your bubble son but your avg A lvl student in the UK does that sort of thing when taking a year out before uni, either that or they buy a car or go to Ibiza and contract VD of some kind.

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[llixeraxu]

If i was less of a person i would care what you all thought..

 

[llixeraxu]

Originally posted by elerand
Two words really on this subject, condescending and snide.

19 and you think you're a qualified sociologist? Ok on paper, well maybe you can become a social worker, that sounds good doesn't it?

Philosophy? We should all think more? You do realise the majority of well known philosophers who came up with their own philosophys were well into their 30's/midlife, 19 means you know what someone else thinks, give it some time and you might be able to figure out some stuff on your own.

Dunno about you but I think you've taken the achievements of western society to a new arrogant height, you've walked from around asia a bit, well don't mean to burst your bubble son but your avg A lvl student in the UK does that sort of thing when taking a year out before uni, either that or they buy a car or go to Ibiza and contract VD of some kind.

I guess cos sociology is one of the sciences it sound very important but it's really statistical, pigeon hole type nonsense, it's a step below psychology, a field that likes to draw it's conclusion from the fact we are all roughly similar

In regards to being condescending, its hard not to sound superior when it comes to replying to posts such as these.

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by llixeraxu


In regards to being condescending, its hard not to sound superior when it comes to replying to posts such as these.

One thing you learn as you get older, is the smallest things can teach wisdom, this is obviously a lesson you need to learn. The way you have put down everyone in this post who has a different opinion, just shows how much you still have to learn.

You are in no position to feel superior.

 

[Cloak_]

Patience Young Jedi


or smth



irl

 

[old.chipper]

sociology = the exam u take if u fuked up ya exams

you seem to think you can describe the way ppl are in the real world sorry to burst your bubble 99% of ppl who play a game use a different persona i for one wouldnt dream of talking the way i do to ppl irl as i do to ppl in games so frankly your "analysis" is flawed big time.

like someone said go out and get a life instead of "trying" to analyse everyone elses.

anyway everyone hates social workers which is all your degree is worth to become bunch of interfering assholes who think they are better and know more than everyone else. believe thats a good description of the nazi rule.

if u dont play the game anymore wtf are u still posting here ?

 

[elerand]

Originally posted by llixeraxu
If i was less of a person i would care what you all thought..

Nice quip, now write your next one on the back of a stamp and send it to someone who cares, we could do a chain of these

 

[elerand]

Originally posted by llixeraxu


In regards to being condescending, its hard not to sound superior when it comes to replying to posts such as these.

Yawn, suppose I'm meant to feel somehow put out by that

Guess you feel clever if you break wind and have an appreciative audience, must be really nice for you

 

[Ziva]

To all the people who seem to think it's more important to flame the poster instead of just commenting on his post: uke: This could have been an interesting discussion but (how surprisingly) u rather choose to make stupid irrelevant posts instead of proving him wrong.

As for your original post llixeraxu, i (not beeing sociologist or anything related, just normal player) think your assumption is not right because you simply can't say all people in one guild are the same or play for the same reasons. Sure some people feel superior above others, some might even feel because of the lack of it irl, but saying all people feel and act like is because of the lack of superiority irl is bollocks imho. I truely believe a lot of people acting like cunts in this game are also cunts irl.

If people are good at something they always tend to feel superior above others, not only in DaoC but also irl. And in some ways i think it's even justified too. I mean... other people could learn a lot from them. But when it comes to that, the way how the "superior-feeling-people" act towards others comes in... some of their followers prefer to learn from them and they apparently don't mind beeing shouted at or beeing called noobish and stuff like that. These people wanna be as good as them and they really don't care what is takes to get them there.

Others really don't feel the need to be the best at DaoC (or other games) and they prefer to have people around them who feel less superior. It's just a matter of why u play a game and how good u wanna be at it i think.

 

[llixeraxu]

Hurrah!! I knew there were some level headed people out there somewhere!

An intresting point indeed. And agreed, pointing at RvR guilds is quite a sweeping statement. But, it seems to me this is where there is a high consentration of players such as these... but maybe not as a direct result! And as you so eloquently put it, the chance to disscuss this has most likly passed.

Oh well, such is life on a BW forum!

 

[Keri]

Originally posted by old.chipper
anyway everyone hates social workers which is all your degree is worth to become bunch of interfering assholes who think they are better and know more than everyone else. believe thats a good description of the nazi rule.

This is YOUR opinion. I don't hate social workers ... if you have never required help from one, how can you say something like this? Perhaps some social workers are poorly portrayed on TV ... rushing in to remove children from their parents without fully understanding the situation for example. But please don't spout forth such bigoted comments if you can't base them on fact.

 

[old.chipper]

i was taken from my father by a fuknig social worker because my mum decided after 2 years of leaving me behind she wanted me back and the "social services" decided this was the better course of action so keri dont tell me i dont know what im on about because i do have first hand knowledge.

fair enough not all of em may think like this but from what i know about the system it stinks.

and as u said this is MY opinion freedom of speech and all.

 

[kirennia]

a d at a-level (presume a-level casue degree's arent letter graded nor possible unless you are a genious and finish it earlier at 19) don't make ya a qualified sociologist really I got C at business studies for example but don't make me a business advisor :whip: It just makes me a fool for choosing such a stupid subject for a-level

Aside from that, people don't like being analysed.....it's a basic human reaction to some1/something they don't know about from way back, human instinct i guess. Some1 telling you how you feel.....if they are wrong, u go nuts, if they are right, you go nuts cause it's a weakness and back when human weakness would/could prove fatal, you dint let it get the better of you so you fight...

Summit humans aint adapted out of and really shouldn't for cases like harrassment etc, to stop people like Nol gettin the better of ya

Also, I don't think they r flaming you because you came up with the idea of the discussion, more to the point that you pointed the finger at the RvR guilds saying they all lacked self asteem in real life....if some1 said that to you, would u b very happy? Then every argument you come back saying, I don't care what you say, AND THEN REPLY!!! I mean how much more contradictory can ya get The whole, 'well i don't like you anyway' is just as bad as a direct flame'. Said it cause u say you don't think you are above everyone then say 'If I was less of a person I would care what you all thought'.....nuff said there

B4 sign off b4 I get shot for analysing the entire Human race just gotta say, what has the psychology of why people flame (what its turned into) got to do with Hibernia discussions? Close thread

 

[Ziva]

Originally posted by kirennia

Aside from that, people don't like being analysed.....it's a basic human reaction to some1/something they don't know about from way back, human instinct i guess. Some1 telling you how you feel.....if they are wrong, u go nuts, if they are right, you go nuts cause it's a weakness and back when human weakness would/could prove fatal, you dint let it get the better of you so you fight...

I think u got a point there... personally i like analyzing and beeing analyzed very much cause u can learn a great deal of things and see things in a different perspective which eventually will enlarge your knowlegde about a lot of things. Though i can understand also people who don't feel this way cause not everyone is the same.

I do however find it sad that a lot of people from RvR guilds see about every thread that's beeing made in such a negative manner. I mean i also see a lot of positive threads on this board aswell and then the same people reply too... but as soon as someone makes a thread that isn't about how good RvR guilds are... or how much people that RvR guild owned <fill in whatever/whoever> they seem to lost their normal communication methods and start flaming the poster. Too bad... cause things could be so much easier if u either didn't respond at all or try to prove the poster wrong in a normal way. It would certainly help to get more respect for your RvR guild from others. But then again... these are just my two cents on this...

 

[Erekrose]

Originally posted by old.chipper
i was taken from my father by a fuknig social worker because my mum decided after 2 years of leaving me behind she wanted me back and the "social services" decided this was the better course of action so keri dont tell me i dont know what im on about because i do have first hand knowledge.

fair enough not all of em may think like this but from what i know about the system it stinks.

and as u said this is MY opinion freedom of speech and all.

They also do a difficult job saving children from all sorts of abuse. Im sorry to hear about your experiences but you shouldnt make rash generalisations based on one experience.

 

[llixeraxu]

Some intresting arguments/posts.

Agreed I would hardly put Sociologist on my CV, but i am taking a course in my spare time.

As for Kirennias post, i would like to say that my " I dont care what you think" would be better said:

For those of you who are not going to treat my point of view in a wholey dignified manner, then dont bother posting at all.

Possibly another line i should add to my already extensive sign off!

Once again thankyou to those of you who have the intellect to put forward rational argument, for or against!

 

[Amadon]

these forums are hardly the place to seek an intellectual discussion

 

[angrysquirrel]

Originally posted by llixeraxu
Being a qualified sociologist,

dont talk shite unless you can substantiate it with shite of a level that can qualify said shite as quoted above.

 

[old.Phlobin]

hey AngrySquirrel,
still want that bow i made for you?

 

[Keri]

Originally posted by old.chipper
i was taken from my father by a fuknig social worker because my mum decided after 2 years of leaving me behind she wanted me back and the "social services" decided this was the better course of action so keri dont tell me i dont know what im on about because i do have first hand knowledge.

fair enough not all of em may think like this but from what i know about the system it stinks.

and as u said this is MY opinion freedom of speech and all.

I'm also sorry to hear of your negative experience with social workers, but if you re-read my original post, I mentioned something about having help from social workers. They're not all bad. I have had some really valuable help from social workers at my regional cancer centre recently, even to the extent of paying for my parking occasionally, and paying for my medication. I wasn't flaming you, just saying that there are two sides to every story. I also have first hand knowledge, and my social worker experiences have been nothing short of wonderful.

 

[inuyasha]

i also want sociology and phycology =)

now tell me when the military will teach their soldiers THAT =)

soon my turn to "fight" as hard as a pacifist can in the medic squad =)