slash/thrust/crush as a merc on cammlan?

[Bankotsu]

ok nxt round - as a merc i think slash is the worst on cammlan - thrust is the best against the most cammlaners, but the crush bludgeon combo is WTF (anytime combo with 6 sec stun) - i prefer speccing to thrust, but i do not think it is able to kill a BD as thrust (same as slash) and you won't evade often as a highlander merc for dragonfang^^ - midchain has high resists against slash, neutral to crush and is vulnerable to thrust - and the most cammlaners wear midchain (but when a druid for example takes guard of valor then the hauberk is hibscale)



nice crushartis: battler + malice axe
nice slashartis: battler + malice axe ( OR TRAITORS DAGGER )
nice thrustartis: traitors dagger while crush cannot, no battler/malice, but you can still wield a 4.1+(spear of kings)

ok so when you get traitors dagger it may be ok to be thrust and get no 6s anytime stun, but does is really proc EVERY time? would be bad when it proccs when i fight with s.o. who is easy and later a BD comes and it does not procc lol

 

[fortunefish]

hmm

forget thrust...

nerfed now stun is halved

1st its camlann u can make in all realms ... that means a blademaster, and if u play a bm properly its one hard mofo imho and slash isnt crap its used by nearly all 1hnded tanks in game... they wud use thrust if it was better we arnt all stupid :kissit: .

if you have your heart set on a merc make a HO coz high str and nice hits make it ideal for crush/slash as mercs dont take much dmg with low hits so HO imo is best for slash/crush.

unbuffed BM vs same skill same RR merc = bm wtfpwns but they are hard and time = everything ( IMO ( i think ) )


imo thrust is a nono and why dont thrust mercs get a respec.... infils get one why not the damn mercs gonna cost a few plat to sort it out otherwize

 

[Bankotsu]

as a merc you won't evade either so the dragonfang nerf is not the prob - the thing is that nearly every one takes mid chain which is vulnarble to thrust so you do nearly 20% more dmg than with slash on them, but thrust has not so good styles for a merc as crush - so whats better .. more dmg cause of thrust, and be able to wield traitors dagger or 6s anytime stun + battler malice axe

 

[Ocalinn]

pierce BM... and its Camlann not cammlan or camllan

 

[enkor]

crush merc for 1vs1, pierce bm for groups

 

[~Latency~]

BM ftw ! :wub:

 

[Konah]

i would go crush as merc on camlann for sure. anytime stun is essential vs some classes and less resists than slash when everyone has access to mid chain/hib reinf. traitors is damn nice 1v1 but read it can be activated as crush this patch iirc?

 

[Bankotsu]

nope just malice axe and battler as crush/slash, traitors as slash/thrust

edit: and bruiser is nothing compared to traitors^^

 

[Bankotsu]

imagine a BM and a merc have got the same delay weapons and they are allowed to do 4 positional styles, who do you think does the most damage ?

BMs most awesome styles:
- ice storm(side positional): 0.68 growth rate
- temptest(followup): 0.88 growth rate
- super nova(followup): 0.85 growth rate

mercs most awesome styles:
- flank(side positional): 0.85 growth rate
- shadows rain(followup): 1.05 growth rate
- dual shadow(almost anytimer frontal positional): 0.80 growth rate with uber 25 dmg bleeding

growth rates addepted from http://daoc.nisrv.com

BM would do the supernova combo for sure:
icestorm(0.68)+temptest(0.88)+super nova(0.85)+icestorm(0.68) = 3.09 growth rate with 4 styles!

the best what a wise merc would do:
flank(0.85)+shadows rain(1.05)+flank(0.85)+shadows rain(1.05) = 3.8 growth rate with 4 styles!

additionally a crush merc can stun much faster in the case of a duel and negate the BMs triple wield(when it is rdy ^^) with his dirty tricks(every 7.5minutes rdy) and sometimes all his damage and he has got the best "anytimer", the frontal positional lvl 50 style dual shadows when his stun is over and the target is still living LOL - and when the BMs triple wield is not rdy he does even more damage in a full group for the assistrain then the BM because his positional styles have much more growth rate and he can stun the targets too if there is no stunner yet.

edit: and the merc can get the damage add RA up to 30% dmg add for every weapon, while this does NOT stack with the triple wield ability of the bm!

 

[Bellona]

crush inconnu mercenary. no need to say more.

 

[Jardar]

I just recently made a Briton Merc, crush specced! Its kicking ass, with right equipment and quality you can beat anyone really, since most noobs use secondhand crap. I hit a red infil trying to run away from me for 220+ damage, might of been because of his resists, but it was still good damage. I dont want to go for HO cos they really look ugly :-[

My friend has a level 50 crush merc, and his beating anything 1vs1 right now, and his Briton.

Give Mercs speed chant and self endbuff and watch them become fotm!

And nerf savages, they are clearely way overpowered, a level 24 savage hit my merc (22) for 200+ on every anytime style.

 

[Bellona]

HO is just too ugly, I want to destroy them all!!!

but inconnu will result in way more streetrespect, being tiny, having +15% racial resists, and have 3% racial thrust resists. they rock!

 

[Jardar]

HO is just too ugly, I want to destroy them all!!!

but inconnu will result in way more streetrespect, being tiny, having +15% racial resists, and have 3% racial thrust resists. they rock!

word dat homie... true gangastas dem inconnus.. would get shitloads of respect on da street.. thrust inconnu ftw

 

[glabbin]

im currently trying to pl a shar pierce bm.. had i only found a good spot where i dont get ganked everytime i logg on!

 

[Goldragon]

hmm

forget thrust...

nerfed now stun is halved

1st its camlann u can make in all realms ... that means a blademaster, and if u play a bm properly its one hard mofo imho and slash isnt crap its used by nearly all 1hnded tanks in game... they wud use thrust if it was better we arnt all stupid :kissit:

Thrust rocks.
And that "arnt all stupid" comment sort of strike me as short-sighted. Tanks spec sword case they have chars with high strenght. With shield and potential 2h weapons, they dont really have much choise.
Mercs who spec thrust, go for lots of dex/quick and have procs on those daggers > you

and of course bm's dont use thrust, you can't make a luwi bm! That WOULD have rawked <3

 

[Ballad]

ok nxt round - as a merc i think slash is the worst on cammlan - thrust is the best against the most cammlaners, but the crush bludgeon combo is WTF (anytime combo with 6 sec stun) - i prefer speccing to thrust, but i do not think it is able to kill a BD as thrust (same as slash) and you won't evade often as a highlander merc for dragonfang^^ - midchain has high resists against slash, neutral to crush and is vulnerable to thrust - and the most cammlaners wear midchain (but when a druid for example takes guard of valor then the hauberk is hibscale)



nice crushartis: battler + malice axe
nice slashartis: battler + malice axe ( OR TRAITORS DAGGER )
nice thrustartis: traitors dagger while crush cannot, no battler/malice, but you can still wield a 4.1+(spear of kings)

ok so when you get traitors dagger it may be ok to be thrust and get no 6s anytime stun, but does is really proc EVERY time? would be bad when it proccs when i fight with s.o. who is easy and later a BD comes and it does not procc lol

Crush HO with 0 + qui and battler/malice.