Shield Question

[RS|Phil]

If you forget about the shield styles for a moment, I just want to know if there would be any point going higher than effective 51 shield - like 38 +13 - or is shield uncapped and having as much as possible is the best idea?

Basically, should you always go 42 shield and never 50 shield regardless of spec point issues?

 

[Cozak]

There is a point going higher than 51 effective shield if you want to block more, it doesnt cap at 50/51, if you just want shield for the stun then go 42 but if you want to block lots as well take the extra 8 and go 50.

 

[RS|Phil]

Ta.

Got another question Does AoM effect the chance to completely resist a spell like base resists do?

 

[Acibeth]

Base resists does not affect the resist rate on a spell, just lowering the damage on you/time on spells etc.... So my answer would be No and No to both. 8)

 

[popa]

Ta.

Got another question Does AoM effect the chance to completely resist a spell like base resists do?

one thing is use whit aom5 horner hit me by 120 -150

 

[Raven]

the difference between 42+rr/sc and 50+rr/sc is so small its not worth wasting the spec points on. spec 42 imo.

 

[Bracken]

the difference between 42+rr/sc and 50+rr/sc is so small its not worth wasting the spec points on spec 42 imo.

If I remember right it's +0.5% chance to block for every +1 pnt in shield...so 8 extra points in shield would mean 4% higher chance to block.

 

[RS|Phil]

Base resists does not affect the resist rate on a spell, just lowering the damage on you/time on spells etc.... So my answer would be No and No to both. 8)

Are you sure about that? I've often found if I have zero resistance to a spell then it lands every time almost but if I cap the resist against it, it often doesn't land at all.

 

[Darzil]

If I remember right it's +0.5% chance to block for every +1 pnt in shield...so 8 extra points in shield would mean 4% higher chance to block.

There is also a belief, though I've not seen a detailed proof, that dex and shield are multiplicative, so a person with 50 shield will get more benefit from dex buffs than one with 42 shield too.

Generally, 42 shield is fine, unless you're wanting to be main blocker for ML raids and the harder Artie encounters, in which case 50 shield + MoB + 10% Cats Blocking is the way to go.

Darzil

 

[Lethul]

* Warlocks are OP?
* Care to explain then why Sorcerers are considered "balanced" and hit me for up to three times my damage even though their spell delves for less? Hmm?

its called relics, it directly adds 20% damage to the sorcs nukes. besides most sorcs have perfect toa templates, warlock dont need a single arti to "pwn" most classes so they run around with traldors and rog and still win. im sure you are one of those

 

[RS|Phil]

You answered my sig, which was just rhetorical anyway

 

[Dr_Evil]

If you forget about the shield styles for a moment, I just want to know if there would be any point going higher than effective 51 shield - like 38 +13 - or is shield uncapped and having as much as possible is the best idea?

Basically, should you always go 42 shield and never 50 shield regardless of spec point issues?

If you have only 42+0 shield, your slam will get parried/evaded/blocked a lot more than if you spec 50+11+rr's, Shield as all Left hand weapons have an invisible Weaponskill, and speccing more in it gives more Weaponskill so you will hit more. When you get higher RR although, 42+0 Shield will work fine since your RR opposed to your target has a lot to say whether you're gonna hit or get parried/evaded/blocked. (just like lvl, a lvl49 will hit much less than a lvl50, but I assume you're talking about being lvl50 now)

 

[Chimaira]

The stupid thing about shield style landing is:
IT seems str is the weaponskill based
But you block more with dex

say my saracen paladin with 340+ dex he blocks like meanbean doktor robotnik machine

But when playing a m8s Highlander Paladin I land slam way more and hes 42+18 shield+mob4

My saracen on pryd is 50+14+mob4

and the highlander has like below 300 dex =P

 

[Ozilia]

See also:

http://vnboards.ign.com/Hibernia_Guardian_Professions/b20907/91660177/?7

for some intresting info on shield specc.. (original post and 4th or so post by Kalysta_DAoC is really worth reading)

 

[peder]

iam very sorry but you spec wrong
shiled is npot needed

spec a reel tank classes and specialise in parry
with new patty you can reach 10percent more parry

dont waist attack powers to silly block

ok maybe if you only block you can block more with much spec but think first abot style of games you play. ok good luck

 

[Bracken]

If you have only 42+0 shield, your slam will get parried/evaded/blocked a lot more than if you spec 50+11+rr's, Shield as all Left hand weapons have an invisible Weaponskill, and speccing more in it gives more Weaponskill so you will hit more. When you get higher RR although, 42+0 Shield will work fine since your RR opposed to your target has a lot to say whether you're gonna hit or get parried/evaded/blocked. (just like lvl, a lvl49 will hit much less than a lvl50, but I assume you're talking about being lvl50 now)

Don't think shield spec determines ability to bypass defence...the tests I've seen, and my own experience, indicate it's main hand weapon skill which effects that. Hence the poster lands slam more with his highlander rather than his saracen (str was affecting his main hand ws). Shield spec only determines chance to block (along with dex - hence the saracen blocked more ) afaik.

 

[Boni]

If I remember right it's +0.5% chance to block for every +1 pnt in shield...so 8 extra points in shield would mean 4% higher chance to block.

is that +0.5% / 1 pnt in shield below 50, or above, or both?