shammy spec what is better ?

[popa]

42 aug rest cave and get second aoe root and @ disease

46 aug rest cave get last str/con and @ disease

47 aug get last dex/qui first aoe root no @ disease

50 aug rest cave( or heal) and get first aoe dot and get str/con and dex/qui aoe remove algo all resiste red



soo what is better 4 rvr ofc

 

[vavires]

42 aug rest cave and get second aoe root and @ disease

46 aug rest cave get last str/con and @ disease

47 aug get last dex/qui first aoe root no @ disease

50 aug rest cave( or heal) and get first aoe dot and get str/con and dex/qui aoe remove algo all resiste red



soo what is better 4 rvr ofc

ppl wil llike the aug 47 most i think

Buffshearing and good buffs ftw

 

[Roteca]

42 aug rest cave and get second aoe root and @ disease

46 aug rest cave get last str/con and @ disease

47 aug get last dex/qui first aoe root no @ disease

50 aug rest cave( or heal) and get first aoe dot and get str/con and dex/qui aoe remove algo all resiste red



soo what is better 4 rvr ofc

46 ofc... but 46 artifact stealing, 27 scammer, 8 retard is more fun..

 

[popa]

vavires ya good couse get caped buff


what about 42 auf 27 cave 20 mend ?

 

[pjuppe]

i agree with rotega. aug healer (and mendhealer) will heal. the grp wants you for your interrupts, buffripping and rebuff abilities. 46aug, 27cave and 8mend will give you enough healing, good buffs and the cave you need (insta AoE disease and a grey con AoE-rooot that's great of interrupting). you can also go 44aug, 27cave and 15 (or 16) mend if you want a 30% rez at the expence of red str/con and red cold resist.

the two viable shaman specs as i see it.

 

[cemi0]

i agree with rotega. aug healer (and mendhealer) will heal. the grp wants you for your interrupts, buffripping and rebuff abilities. 46aug, 27cave and 8mend will give you enough healing, good buffs and the cave you need (insta AoE disease and a grey con AoE-rooot that's great of interrupting). you can also go 44aug, 27cave and 15 (or 16) mend if you want a 30% rez at the expence of red str/con and red cold resist.

the two viable shaman specs as i see it.

Or 44 Aug 31 Cave for a green aoe root

 

[pjuppe]

the green AoE-root costs more power and isn't as good of a interuption tool. i don't understand why ppl go 31cave as it adds very little.

 

[Roteca]

the green AoE-root costs more power and isn't as good of a interuption tool. i don't understand why ppl go 31cave as it adds very little.

yes even i decided on going 44 aug only i would spend the remaining points into mend for the better rez... only if i were to solo alot i would take higher cave... and solo as it is now sucks as a shaman, its not that you cant kill, just takes to long and you get added on either by other enemys, or other realm "friends" aka wankers...

 

[Tomwyr]

what about a fun spec like 41 cave 32 aug rest mend?

 

[Roteca]

what about a fun spec like 41 cave 32 aug rest mend?

not that fun if you plan to get rvr grps >.<

 

[Tomwyr]

not that fun if you plan to get rvr grps >.<

it happens

presents the advantage that i can farm stuff & if i tag through frontiers & come upon a lone tank i can actually kill it...

i got this spec since, well since i have this shammie.... & i like it, now i got another shammie, 47 aug 26 mend 5 cave, plays quite different & this one *can't* kill stuff though it's a troll also

 

[Kados]

deffo 47 cave

 

[Tomwyr]

was thinking about it, but then u deffo need a bb i guess...

 

[Roteca]

it happens

presents the advantage that i can farm stuff & if i tag through frontiers & come upon a lone tank i can actually kill it...

i got this spec since, well since i have this shammie.... & i like it, now i got another shammie, 47 aug 26 mend 5 cave, plays quite different & this one *can't* kill stuff though it's a troll also

well, 47 aug means its a BB i guess... 46 aug 27 cave thou you can kill ppl solo with, i solo from time to time and im that specc. to bad its cry to solo as shaman cuz before you killed your enemy someone else has added already!

 

[FAM87]

Yes, made me stop rvring with my shammy

 

[Belomar]

My Shaman is 44 aug, 27 cave, 15 mend. Aug Shamans are not to be underestimated, but the problem is that a few people rolled Shamans thinking they were making a damage dealer and not a support class. While Cave Shamans can be pressed into this role, the truth of the matter (no pun!) is that the Shaman is at its best in a support role (arguably one of the best support classes in the game, too). Not having high Aug in an opted RvR group is a waste of the tremendous potential of the class.

 

[Ixoth]

Some will choose to take 48 aug, for full red resists. Thou, IMHO 47 aug shamy is great BB spec.

 

[Pirkel]

i agree with rotega. aug healer (and mendhealer) will heal. the grp wants you for your interrupts, buffripping and rebuff abilities. 46aug, 27cave and 8mend will give you enough healing, good buffs and the cave you need (insta AoE disease and a grey con AoE-rooot that's great of interrupting). you can also go 44aug, 27cave and 15 (or 16) mend if you want a 30% rez at the expence of red str/con and red cold resist.

the two viable shaman specs as i see it.

I'm 46, 27, 8 and I'm very happy with it. I had the green aoe root but ran out of power a bit to fast the grey one interupts just as well but uses (what feels like a lot) less power.

 

[Tabbi]

46aug 27cave 8mend deffo i tried almost all shammie specs on my shammie and 46 aug is deffo the best spec if you are gonna run i a fg imo.

 

[Ixoth]

Difference between aug of 46 and 47 is (if you are a bb) is quite significant. You'll provide more dex/qui on 47 than 46 (the difference is 12, 47 gives 70 dex/qui boost).

48 aug only benefits so that you get for matter grp resist buff to 24, instead of 16. Worth taking - unsure. Maybe for RvR - don't know. Maybe more experienced in RvR could shed some light on that.

 

[Pohjan Poika]

best specc is high mend.
just get the last grp frigg
and put the rest in cave or aug whatever you like.

 

[Ixoth]

...Also for for group heal you need lvl 26 on mending. Its quite handy to have IMHO

Again to get at least some kind of deacent DOT you need at least lvl 7 on cave. Then you have 45 dmg bolt, instead of 15 of dmg one (cast time 2.5 sec).

I'm bored, I'm at work now and got time to write these hopefully usefull comments lol.

Also activated DR on both of my accounts, its also installed to both of my computers, can't wait to grind champion lvls on my Ix char

 

[Roteca]

best specc is high mend.
just get the last grp frigg
and put the rest in cave or aug whatever you like.

i hope you you aint serious about that...

also the diffrence between 46 and 47 in aug as bb aint significant, its almost not noticable... the diffrence aint 12, the diffrence is 3 in stats. delve and actuall benefit aint the same...

and the least you should have in cave is 27, the pbae dissease is nice...

red matter aint worth it realy... matter is the last you should worry about, other then matter lgm weaps that a few tanks use, its no danger realy i would say... DoT will suck no matter how high you specc in cave, would maybe be more fun in AE dot and single target dot would stack, but they dont... bolt is nothing you should worry about, you aint a dmg dealer, you have tanks or casters for that... shaman is a support class! only times i use bolt or dd is to leech killmsg =D bolt i can use also sometimes if the target is just out of range and i dont think i have the time to move a bit to interupt at that point since bolt has higher range then the other interupt spells you have (1875 instead of 1500)

46a/27c/8m is the most you can squeese out of a shaman in utility

 

[Ixoth]

i hope you you aint serious about that...

also the diffrence between 46 and 47 in aug as bb aint significant, its almost not noticable... the diffrence aint 12, the diffrence is 3 in stats. delve and actuall benefit aint the same...

and the least you should have in cave is 27, the pbae dissease is nice...

red matter aint worth it realy... matter is the last you should worry about, other then matter lgm weaps that a few tanks use, its no danger realy i would say... DoT will suck no matter how high you specc in cave, would maybe be more fun in AE dot and single target dot would stack, but they dont... bolt is nothing you should worry about, you aint a dmg dealer, you have tanks or casters for that... shaman is a support class! only times i use bolt or dd is to leech killmsg =D bolt i can use also sometimes if the target is just out of range and i dont think i have the time to move a bit to interupt at that point since bolt has higher range then the other interupt spells you have (1875 instead of 1500)

46a/27c/8m is the most you can squeese out of a shaman in utility

Vampire claw damage is matter based.

 

[Roteca]

Vampire claw damage is matter based.

depends on specc also, but yea VE vamps have matter claw, but vamps aint realy that common in 8vs8 rvr... still no reason to gimp yourself and get red matter resist buff, but no pbae disease...

 

[Chronictank]

minimum 27 cave for the pbaoe disease and ae root tbh
and remember even a yellow shear can rip a buff from someone the reason to get higher ones is resists, but even that can be resolved with a few lvls mastery of focus
rest is up to you

27 cave 44 aug 15 mend
giving you all the shears and the 15% rez
(making it most utility mr sigel )

 

[Belomar]

DoT will suck no matter how high you specc in cave, would maybe be more fun in AE dot and single target dot would stack, but they dont...

I am no expert on Shamans, but Matter Cabalist AE DoTs (spec) and baseline single-target DoTs do stack. Since the Shaman single-target DoT is baseline, I assume it should stack with AE DoT as well?

 

[Chronictank]

I am no expert on Shamans, but Matter Cabalist AE DoTs (spec) and baseline single-target DoTs do stack. Since the Shaman single-target DoT is baseline, I assume it should stack with AE DoT as well?

they dont unfortunately far as i seen

 

[Roteca]

minimum 27 cave for the pbaoe disease and ae root tbh
and remember even a yellow shear can rip a buff from someone the reason to get higher ones is resists, but even that can be resolved with a few lvls mastery of focus
rest is up to you

27 cave 44 aug 15 mend
giving you all the shears and the 15% rez
(making it most utility mr sigel )

depends on grp setup, 15% rez aint a must.. but in a all caster grp yes, more use that way, full or heavy tank grp, better str/con is also nice =P

 

[Chronictank]

depends on grp setup, 15% rez aint a must.. but in a all caster grp yes, more use that way, full or heavy tank grp, better str/con is also nice =P

you said more utlity
didnt say how effective it was ^^
i dropped the 15 mend soon as i finished pve personally as i have EOY in my template and if healers are all down a rez sick healer with 10% pow isnt gona save the fight