Shadowblade specs(if auto trained)

[Chimaira]

Alright I have a new project which is an shadowblade.
Its pled in moderna so ima autotrain it.

Can you midgardians give me some specs and +/- about em?
Dont wanna mess up spec. I got a rr4 infil but hes like 50 CS and stuff

thanks

 

[Azathrim]

Try to ask ingame.

 

[Melachi]

Are you planning for 1.82 or just for the moment?

And what do you want to do?

Beat other assasins mainly, or all rounder?

 

[Chimaira]

Try to ask ingame.

Problemo since I play USA. And dont ask me to fuck off to vnboards cause this is unofficial boards across all servers bla bla bla and vn lags and I get lame replies. Now when that is over with...

Are you planning for 1.82 or just for the moment?

And what do you want to do?

Beat other assasins mainly, or all rounder?

Devon cluster on USA is zerg/stealther cluster. there is one million stealthers and hardly any visibles other than the bridges. we are talking 50+ albs standing watching a fg not daring to attack.

So yeah stealthers mainly. reason I post about specs are the change to 39 sword afaik? and wyrd spec and the lower spec points in total than infil

I will be having +77 extra points because of auto train.

I guess something like 35 stealth 39 sword 34 La perhaps
p.s yeah it will be 1.82 rounded, Tho 2hand PA will be used a bit more (we are talking 300-400 increase on chain wearers on pendragon xD) Ima spec for LA

 

[Melachi]

I wouldnt be too pushed with the lvl 39 sword stun style unless I was going full critblade.

For the highest dps toe to toe you cant really go wrong with Shadowzerker spec, 50(3x+xx) composite weapon/stealth/env and 50(+11) leftaxe.

Though it wont be THAT much more dps than a more standard spec.


Im thinking maybe a spec of:
32env
35stealth
35Weap
32LA
44CS

No stun, but with all assasins having remedy, purge is gonna be used on stuns mainly, meaning stun wont be that great, so I would rather the hamstring chain for its effects.

Could go for 50CS to see what the new 5%(?) abs debuff is like, but Ill wait to see how it pans out.


So basically for rr5 spec, 35stealth 32+env 35+weap, and rest is up to you, cant really go too wrong.


Weapon choices are like this:

Sword advantages: Goldenspear & Battler(which is underated I think) available as mainhands.

Axe: Anytime ASD, (Malice+croc tooth combo), decent speed sun weap ect.

 

[Azathrim]

No reason to spec for the 39 sword stun. You might as well go 39 LA then and get the benefit of better LA damage as well for the same type of stun.

 

[aika]

go 50 LA on low rr

 

[lpep]

tbh theres many many diferant ideas of speccs to go.. good person to ask in game is thornea.. he's tried and tested most speccs..... tired 44crit/44sword.. 35 stealth 35 env to rr 5.. that was long before NF though..... tried same specc recently and it aint high enough damage output with low la... atm on sb 39 La 34 crit.. 34 env.. 34 stealth 37 sword.. seems to work ok....thats at rr 6 though

 

[kivik]

my current spec is, not autotrained.

50 LA
36 axe
35 stealth
35 envenom

works fine, will keep this spec until 1.82 hits us.

 

[Melachi]

my current spec is, not autotrained.

50 LA
36 axe
35 stealth
35 envenom

works fine, will keep this spec until 1.82 hits us.

Im same spec, and cant complain.

Actually im sword atm, but just because I cba to redoo suit even though I would prefare to be Axe for the ASD anytimer. So atm I just use a polar light if I landed FG

 

[Azathrim]

I don't get how you can go without critical strike styles. However, I would go LA spec until RR5 as well.

 

[Melachi]

I don't get how you can go without critical strike styles. However, I would go LA spec until RR5 as well.

I can see somebody not liking the idea of not having PA & BS chains, simply cause they are fun to land. But other than that its pretty much the same, other than with 50LA you will be hitting harder

 

[kivik]

you will get points enough to spec 11 critical strike, wich will give you backstab II

 

[kivik]

melachi: another advantage with the axe spec line is the pillager style, attack speed decrease.

 

[Vladamir]

Fotmchim

 

[Melachi]

Im same spec, and cant complain.

Actually im sword atm, but just because I cba to redoo suit even though I would prefare to be Axe for the ASD anytimer. So atm I just use a polar light if I landed FG

melachi: another advantage with the axe spec line is the pillager style, attack speed decrease.

 

[Punj]

Try to ask ingame.

that's a crap attitude tbh,if your not gonna help the dude keep out his thread

 

[Liff]

Azat is one of the more helpfull guys out there tbh. I'm quite sure his intentions are good.

 

[kivik]

oh, gotta look over my reading skills I guess

 

[Sigidil]

http://www.classesofcamelot.com/other/styles/New_DPS_Calc.xls

I have:
34sth (+16) = 50
35sw (+16) = 51
50cs (+16) = 66
31la (+16) = 47
22env (+16) - With other armor parts. = 38

I've had so many other specs tried out and this spec seems to have the most damage output then any other. (Even with "only" 38 env).

 

[Thornea]

imo the perfect spec for a SB is 44CS, 39LA, 50Envenom(Mod), 50 Stealth(mod) and 50/51 MH weapon(Mod).

(mod) = +11 Spellcrafting +? RR + spec


This is achievable at rr8 (if autotrained) or rr9 (if no auto train).

You rely on CS styles (Garrote/AH - PA/BS2 - Evade Chain) for main dmg and backup Comeback(LA stun 1st in chain off evade) with garrote choosing follow up depending on what landed.

At low rr the choice comes down to high LA (39 tops) OR high envenom but not both.

SZ spec is ok (I Tried 50 weapon/50la) for dmg output but tbh is a boring way to play an sb. Also a Garrote with AH follow up out damages 2X double frosts, uses less end and slows/snares. You do get a kinda nice haste effect with High LA using DF etc ive noticed though.

Dont ever get dis-heartend that NS's seam to hit twice as fast as you and that Infs do more offhand dmg than you do mainhand, you just cant compete raw dmg wise and need to try and think outside of the box.
DOT mine/Viper3&Lifebane seam to do the trick, reapplying DOT Envenom via already prepared weapons in backpack (I carry about 10 hehe).

Ive tried 50CS/50sword as pure 2h critblade and tbh this was very fun (PAs of 1700 with good crit) but just dosent cut it against duel wielders who will own you.

Ive also tried 5-spec, perfzerker, envenomzerker & soulblade but still comeback to my main 44cs/39la spec.

Other tips include....

Get Pheobus harp (hard to fit in template but nice winged helm style charge) maybe nerfed soon though looking at VN board (but thats about 3 months away)

Never use slash weapon mh v hibbies (suicide as they are resistant to slash)

Infact best weapons are legendaries mh (get one of each as you will soon learn your regular oponents weakness) and malice oh, champ weapon or GOlden spear are nice mainhanders to use v casters.

always use battler charge if its up

ALWAYS/ALWAYS use af charges preferably with a buffbonus gem like stardrop - dmg from infs drops from 250-350 mh without af up to 200-260ish.

Get a decent duo partner and learn each others play styles.

Hope points above help.

 

[Grunta]

Problemo since I play USA. And dont ask me to fuck off to vnboards cause this is unofficial boards across all servers bla bla bla and vn lags and I get lame replies. Now when that is over with...

:eek2:

Senses the tension - where is all the love ?

Its ok my friend - us European's are lovely welcoming people...mostly as we are pissed half the time (English version not US version of "pissed" - which just illustrates my point )

Your not that drill seargant from Jarhead in real life are you - or did you catch your wife flirting with King Eirik and your having a bad day?

Serious question on autotrain for all you DaoC experts out there - if you autotrain, then subsequently respec, do you loose the autotrained points. Also can you autotrain from a /level or need to do it from level 1 ?

 

[Nuxtobatns]

Pretty much what Thornea said .. except imo:

-No 100% need for PH. Just get even more hits/con in template and resists. 5mins and some secs u can have the charge isnt satisfactory compaired to what u loose. Plus it will most of the times mess with a malice /use2 when FZed or a battler..or even a SL.

-Only use AF charges when far from combat (AF is ok...but not a malice /use2 ) and only if u r already hasted.

-Slash mainhand is ok if it really helps on a very good template and u r hasted. Plus with ml6 spike,battler /use,purge 3 and some 2200+hp .... u wont have much difficulty even against hib stealthers.

-Also..as u progres in rr. dont raise CS for 1-2 points if the same points gives u access on some higher dot/disease/debuff poison. Ofc keep 39 cs as base and 39 la as max.

The key word is "Hasted"...it feels u r playing another char

PS: 10 extra weaps to the 3 u r carrying r too much imo... i usually carry only 8 (hahahahaha )