Server clustring..

[snarf]

Anyone know if GOA have any plans of clustering servers as Mythic are doing in the US. Check out this link: (http://www.mythicentertainment.com/press/server_clustering_feb_9.html)
Sounds like fun

Think it would be an excellent idea to cluster the pryd and excal servers. It would surely boost up the current rvr activity, as it is kinda sleepy right now (at least on pryd).

 

[Gallak]

You're an alb right? I really don't fancy a server with that many albs out in rvr

 

[leviathane]

means uber farmage for hibbies.

 

[snarf]

You're an alb right? I really don't fancy a server with that many albs out in rvr

I'am mid, but would you rather fancy running around for a few hours not finding a single fg to fight? I rather be zerged than that..

 

[Elendar]

need this soon, probbaly will create an even bigger alb zerg, but thats better than nothing to fight

 

[Ticking]

GOA sais their not planning to, but that just would be the last nail on the coffin
imho

 

[Shanaia]

When will people learn to read?

Us clustering has been done on servers with 350 people primetime ... no server that avaraged above 600 even got concidered for it ...

It's a completely different situation since they ahve what 15 servers and we have 2 (english servers I mean) ...

Also when 2 servers get clustered and a new players comes to the game he can only play 1 realm cause you can't make new chars on another server in a cluster you already play on.

It's by far not the same thing ... so hit that last nail in the coffin PLEASE and stop whining.

 

[Darzil]

Looks like it's not just the smallest servers any more, Shanaia. They just started with them.

Darzil

 

[Shanaia]

I stand corrected.

Points like only having 2 servers over here and thus giving people only 1 realm they can effectivly play still stand though.

 

[Rellik]

i for one whould rather have some kind of RvR action, rather then play in two diffrent realms..
maybe thats just me tho

 

[Shanaia]

I'm rvring right now .. plenty of action ..

 

[Chimaira]

Shan :touch:

What I heard u can play different realms on clustered but there is a 20 min downtime when u log out alb and wanna log another etc ;p

EU is dead cluster wont solve anything. U know WOW rocks n all that shit

 

[mikke]

cluster imo, it is lame on prydwen atm, nothing to kill. except at bled bridge, where all mids camp..

OR atleast give us a option, make them cut our characters from pryd directory and paste on excal directory

 

[snarf]

I'm rvring right now .. plenty of action ..

Action you say....no fg vs fg though !

 

[Awarkle]

full group vs full group sucks arse its basically leet group farming leet group, isnt fun for the rest of the population if people left their scouts and hunters at home and stopped with the stealther zerg might be folk out their to rvr.

 

[Hansmoleman]

to the thread, imo EU servers dont have low enough pop to be clustered.

 

[Kraben]

I really hope prydwen gets clustered with 1-2 other servers. I would much more prefer to fight huge alb zergs than have nothing to fight as in the last few months of OF.

 

[snarf]

to the thread, imo EU servers dont have low enough pop to be clustered.

Perhaps not on Excal, but lets wait a few weeks and you'll see the rvr-activity (hope not though) be close to zero on pryd. I'm speaking fg vs fg!

Lets face it rvr is the endgame for most of us! Lots of people are leaving or considering to leave the server (prydwen) cause there is no rvr action...

If the ones who decide (GOA) fails to see this it wont be much hope for prydwen rvr.

I Hope I am wrong though, noone would be happier than me

 

[mikke]

to the thread, imo EU servers dont have low enough pop to be clustered.

When the game started it was about 2,5k players on pryd. that worked well didnt it? and now we have 600... on 4-5 times as large area as when it started.. so why wont this work?

 

[gervaise]

Pryd now has a lower level of activity than Bors did prior to clustering. Numbers : daoc.darkzone.net. And Bors was nominally the lowest pop US server.

Clustering is not the answer for realm imbalance but it is Mythic's solution for low population. Activity is clearly down - and if the US trend is a guide its going to get worse. (Biggest population drop in US was 1 month after WoW - see numbers)

It may not be needed. The new PR agency may work wonders. But clustering for the contingency plan maybe ....

 

[snarf]

The problem is that something has to happen now not in a month or two. People are leaving this server as we write..! I'd say cluster now before everyone has left...

It would be very interesting to hear what GOA has to say in this matter.

 

[Kraben]

Agree with you Snarf. We can just pray for a hotfix that is not intended to nerf us but in fact try and help us instead.

There are other alternatives out there now.. for some it is alot better alternatives as well. Speaking for myself I really dont know what to. I've played here the last 3 years since beta and have invested enormous amounts of days/hours in my characters. Rerolling somewhere else is a huge step to take as I still have alot of friends here and a steady rvr group - I doubt all would be ready to reroll on another server and im having high doubts about it myself.

Really dont want to see this go do the drain just because GoA/Mythic cant realize what they have to do in order to let this server/game survive.

The exudos is a reality.

 

[Darzil]

Maybe we need an underpopulated realm bonus on all three realms on Pryd ?

Not the same bonus, of course.

Darzil

 

[Awarkle]

ok then with clustering what about us who play characters on multiple realms I like thati can play midgard on excalibur and hibernia on prydwen when they implement clustering between prydwen and excal that basically means i have to pick one realm or the other and what if ive put equal amounts of time into both comunities or if i dont want to have anything to do with the midgard prydwen comunity as i been fighting them a long time with awarkle.

Who do i log on for relic defence who do i support.

Clustering will kill this game and ive said it in the 100000 other posts about clustering, the few that want it are the few that liked fg vs fg leetiest rvr in old frontiers.

Rvr on prydwen is fine just albion cant be bothered to come out and play and mids just seem to add on every fight they see.

 

[gervaise]

^^^^^
This is currently a sore point in the US. You can log onto different realm but only after a gap of at least 8 hours - so one server a night basically.

And you say that Rvr is fine but go on to say that Albs won't come out to play and Mids just add .....?

 

[Awarkle]

no if you look at all three realms no 1 realm is dominating yes every now and again mid alb or hib take an enemy keep for df and hold it for a while. But its not as if all of hibernias keeps are in albions hands or midgards beeing pasted for having no relics.

The fact remains that rvr has hit an equalibrium the rvr gankers are making rps the casuals are doing what casuals do best rvr for an hour get a few rps defend a tower defend a keep raid a keep raid a tower going back to leveling that 30th thid alt.

Rvr just isnt about 2000 people fighting in the same zone because lets face it if rvr was that zergy most peoples computers would just link dead or crash or be unplaybel slideshow.

Clustering will just bring excal pops and prydwen pops together and tbh i dont think neither population wants to be part of the other, if they did then all the guilds and gank groups would have left one of the servers and gone to play on the other and they havnt they found the servers and the rvr type they enjoy.

Either way clustering will mean this animist retires and goes to find somthing else to play with more choice than a single realm and i wonder how many other people would feel cheated into being forced to play 1 realm with no other choice of a change other than an 8 hour wait before they can play their game.

 

[snarf]

I can se your point Awarkle, however I strongly disagree with you.
Saying that rvr on prydwen is fine makes me wonder if we play on the
same server. Prydwen is dying when it comes to rvr. If the population
decreases even more which it might as an above poster stated. Then we
are in even bigger trouble.

The essence of rvr is competetiveness...And thats what fg vs fg is
all about. You dont have to be an elite ganker to enjoy and appreciate
that. I dont think you are very representative of the rvr community.
Its my belief people chose to play this game because they loved the idea
of daoc's endgame (rvr).

I dont know where your dislike for fg vs fg fighting comes from perhaps
ganked one to many times? I dont Awarkle and the likes of him will take
to much notice of a clustring, you will as you say just log on defend a
tower then log off. But for the rest of us it will mean plenty of action

Having an eight hour timer to switch realms is a low price to pay for the
benefits of clustring.

 

[Maeloch]

Kinda disagree that server clustering favours the GGs awark. atm there is *just* enuff peeps out to justify running about in a fg (imo anyhow), but this part of the game is still going on.

However, there is *no way* enuff peeps for there to be any serious realm warfare going - that part of the game is completely dead right now. No relics are gonna change hands, no keep takes really matter cos no one has the numbers to follow thru' with a serious raid.

Clustering should shake things up a bit for everyone. There's some nice skrimish fights and stuff going on atm, but I hate playing in a vacuum.

Mael, 50th ment.

 

[SkarIronfist]

I think clustering is the way out of the deadly spiral we are in.

Now I would like to point out, that once something is clustered, it does not not mean that it cannot be unjoined if the numbers climb back up.

So IF the marketing campaign does work, then we can de couple the servers. If a new english server is created (due to numbers) ... then it could be coupled with pyrdwen until it can stand on its own 2 feet.

We need more people its that simple.

Also, this 8 hour change over period. Lets be honest, thats silly. It should be 30 mins. I mean there are so many ways to communicate between people in different realms atm, that if someone wants to indicate that an RR is on, then they will suceed. IRC, Ventillo, Forums, buff bot accounts with characters on the same server, different realm. So really what is the point.

Hopefully the time period will be reduced and other annoyances that have come out of clustering will be ironied out in the coming months.

OR GOA can allow us to transfer our characters to the US, if they cannot deliver a user base big enough to support Pyrdwen (Unlikely).

Hell even cluster me with French/German servers and put a language indicator in the name.

Action has to be taken, and I would prefer if GOA made it clear what they are going to do.

Awarkle: I can understand your concern. But if we don't get more people, then albs hibs mids will end up being trapped in there keeps. Since you do need more people if you are going to seige a castle without fear of some GG storming up behind.

The thing that was causing the GG the most problem in the early days of NF, was the shear number of players.... it was very very hard to kill a zerg, since there were just to many people to kill, before being overwhelmed.

 

[snarf]

The ability to cluster the servers is in patch 1.74. Catacombs (1.73) will be released in march. On the US servers 1.74 was launched one month after cata. So "IF" there is gonna be a server clustring it will take a few months.

It would be very interesting to hear what GOA have to say in this issue! I am and I'm guessing I'm not alone extremely interested to hear GOA's view on this, as it will probobly decide mine and others future in DAOC. Is it worth investing more time ? I'd say hell yes if I only knew the rvr-situation got better