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Ilum

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Just one of my weird ideas...would like to know some opinions on the matter :) And if you agree with me, it's a good idea to send it / something similar to Mythic as well :)

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In regards to New Frontiers, Realm vs Realm combat has changed a lot. What myself and a lot others miss, is the good old roaming around...where you look for fights just for the purpose of enjoying a good and challenging encounter with another realm of roughly same numbers hopefully.

In New Frontiers space is tight between the towers, docks and drop areas. This part of the game, which was so loved by many, is gone.

But it would not be hard to bring back. And of course, you might ask "why should be". But I ask you "why not".

Look at this suggestion - you make a nice set of land in the North Sea - would be about the size of an Old Frontier zone - some Sea around, instead of the zonewalls of OF. No keeps on this island, and no boats going straight the way here. Just have a landmass that people can jump near on the road between the frontiers. Anyone seeking just to fight can have it here.

In my opinion there is nothing to lose by adding this - if this is not what people want they will simply not use it. If this is what people want they will use it and enjoy the game longer. And perhaps earn you a few more months or even longer of subscription payment.

Story wise there could easily be a reason why a central landmass would be untouched by keeps and so. A curse, prophecy...I'm sure you do not lack the creativity to create a story around it.

Anyway, I challenge you to ask yourself what you have to lose by adding such a feature :)

In my book, nothing - but you can make a lot of players happy.

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Jerjerod

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I think I've seen things very similar to this suggested somewhere on VN, Mythic seem to want to do instanced RvR to cater to 8v8 instead though. In a few patches time teleporting gets nerfed allot which might make things a little bit better in the mean time :/
 

Chilly

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In New Frontiers space is tight between the towers, docks and drop areas.

Like fuck is it, if youa ctually vetured away from those very same towers/jettis etc youd realise that there is a fuckload of open space.
 

Shafu

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Yea, there's lots of open space in the New Frontiers, but there's little reason to go there, because you wont see any enemies, unless there is a keep/tower fight nearby.

Something I miss a lot is the feeling of "venturing deep into enemy territory". In NF it's quite the opposite actually. The further you venture into an enemy frontier, the less likely you are to meet enemies (again, unless there is a keep/tower fight nearby).

A few days ago I was running around somewhere "deep" in albion frontier. There was a valley with steep cliffs on both sides and a small bridge above. There was no (quick) way for me to get up on the cliffs so I was forced to go through the valley leaving me very vulnerable to attacks from above (if it wasn't for the fact that the area was completely deserted :)). Anyway, I thought to myself it would be cool if there was actually a reason to go to this place(!) There isn't. And that is the main problem with NF as I see it. It has a lot of cool landscape, but the "infrastructure" prevents most of it from being used to it's full potential.

Oops, got a little carried away. Back to the topic :) I like the suggestion, but Im sure Mythic's response would be either: "No, design decision", or "Need specifics" :)
 

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the other night i ran from scath to crau then back to scath again, i didnt see even 1 enemy. zzzzz
 

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Old.Ilum said:
Story wise there could easily be a reason why a central landmass would be untouched by keeps and so. A curse, prophecy...I'm sure you do not lack the creativity to create a story around it.

Storywise there was never an explenation for the whole arrival of NF itself :p All the keeps and towers just appeared from nothing... so they do lack some creativity :p
 

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You sir are a fecking idiot with all the QQ to mythic cause your not happy about sommit, get a life ya tosser.


You remind me of this kid at school,
Miss Miss he's picking on me ;<
Detention for you lad,
Huh i was eh wot!!
NAnanaa hahaaaa

Was so nice beating the living daylights outta that guy on the way home
infact we even became friends cause after he actually grow some balls
 

kirennia

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Acetylsalicylic said:
You sir are a fecking idiot with all the QQ to mythic cause your not happy about sommit, get a life ya tosser.


You remind me of this kid at school,
Miss Miss he's picking on me ;<
Detention for you lad,
Huh i was eh wot!!
NAnanaa hahaaaa

Was so nice beating the living daylights outta that guy on the way home
infact we even became friends cause after he actually grow some balls

And let me guess, you're still at this same school right? :p
 

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You can still roam and there are alot of groups that do exactly as they did in OF, that hasnt changed, all that has changed is that there is now an alternative to roaming.

The only difference between NF and OF really is that now you can go out solo as any class or in a small non-fotm group and actually have some fun rather than being forced to go to one of the bottleneck areas to find an enemy and getting zerged.

NF has spread the fight out a lot, there are far more open spaces to fight now than in OF and each realm has players spread out now rather than all sat at one MG.

If it wasnt for the lag, i'd say NF is a huge improvement on the old frontiers.
 

Ilum

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Tallen said:
You can still roam and there are alot of groups that do exactly as they did in OF, that hasnt changed, all that has changed is that there is now an alternative to roaming.

The only difference between NF and OF really is that now you can go out solo as any class or in a small non-fotm group and actually have some fun rather than being forced to go to one of the bottleneck areas to find an enemy and getting zerged.

NF has spread the fight out a lot, there are far more open spaces to fight now than in OF and each realm has players spread out now rather than all sat at one MG.

If it wasnt for the lag, i'd say NF is a huge improvement on the old frontiers.

There are different opinions on this matter :)
 

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Acetylsalicylic said:
You sir are a fecking idiot with all the QQ to mythic cause your not happy about sommit, get a life ya tosser.


You remind me of this kid at school,
Miss Miss he's picking on me ;<
Detention for you lad,
Huh i was eh wot!!
NAnanaa hahaaaa

Was so nice beating the living daylights outta that guy on the way home
infact we even became friends cause after he actually grow some balls

To be fair as i doubt you played OF your opinion counts for fuck all.
 

Ilum

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Acetylsalicylic said:
You sir are a fecking idiot with all the QQ to mythic cause your not happy about sommit, get a life ya tosser.


You remind me of this kid at school,
Miss Miss he's picking on me ;<
Detention for you lad,
Huh i was eh wot!!
NAnanaa hahaaaa

Was so nice beating the living daylights outta that guy on the way home
infact we even became friends cause after he actually grow some balls

rofl :p
 

Acetylsalicylic

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Old.Ilum said:
You call it a whine / wanker thread but Mythic did announce this change after we sent the feedback.

Don't know which whine thread of yours this was referring to but i assume its this one, the difference of NF to OF for yourself is very clear your no longer confined to an enclosed area enabling you to zerg the groups running around Amg emain! so much work we just want to be able to run out of apk and back to it again all day for safety...

As to your other plz help me inform mythic nerfing threads i.e the nerf chanter light debuff etc what i called ya thread(s) still applys '' nerf chanters focus shield /nerf chanters heat debuff /nerf chanters light debuff /make it easier for me to wtf pwn, omg omg.
 

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Acetylsalicylic said:
As to your other plz help me inform mythic nerfing threads i.e the nerf chanter light debuff etc what i called ya thread(s) still applys '' nerf chanters focus shield /nerf chanters heat debuff /nerf chanters light debuff /make it easier for me to wtf pwn, omg omg.

i play hib
 

eggy

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We roam full group all the time, often find fg fg fights. In fact, if you roam away from the huge tower takes there is more fg fights than in OF.
 

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One thing I pondered for a bit, would be to have all guilds who generally roamed as a fg, to declare a zone where they would roam. You obviously wouldnt say specifics but just the zone, if all guilds who roam chose the same zone, we could artificially create a new emain-esque roaming zone.

Tilda
 

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Old.Ilum said:
Hiya mythic / goa.

I cant wait for instanced RvR and I think NF is smaller than OF where I used to run from apk-amg-mmg-mtk over and over again all nite. So could you give us a zone where the people who like to do fg v fg RvR can fight each other, possibly calling it team death match island of magic stuff arthur christened it with holy water from camelot's streams! You guys are pretty creative I'm sure you'll come up with something.

Ok I'm back to NF where I will just follow the swords and hang out at towers while me and my friends say /g ffs zerg :( /g omg zerged again :( /g I hate those zergers irl I think they should die because they make me :(

:D

Sorry man, couldnt resist it. I really dont think you thought out your idea, lets say they give you this mythically island, pun intended, you wouldnt have it until after instanced RvR most likely. Not to mention the fact that it would sort of do away with the point of in the first place. Also you know some fag would lead a zerg there to farm the place and / or everybody would end up going there because everybody wants to fit in so they go to were all the cool kids are goin etc. You would end up with another Emain on an island because that's were most of the action would be simply because fg's tend to head to that place. If that wasnt true then OF emain would not have been so zerged all the time or maybe you do believe in coincidences, personally...

"I believe in coincidences, I just dont trust coincidences"

Also, the fact that emain was the chosen zone for fg combat, which just ended up with alot of people getting zerged and whining about it. Hadrians wall and Odin's were both very viable options to do fg RvR but people refused and stayed in Emain to get zerged over and over with fg fights thrown in the mix inbetween the adding of other fg's onto zergs / fg's, all the while you have the odd stealther poking there nose in and vise versa from fg's on stealther fights.
 

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