Screenshotjump ?!?

[Aurilius]

The bridge's in battlegrounds have large stones in both ends. These stone's can be accessed via screenjump so you can get on top of them. This is unfortunately used quite alot.

Today 28/9-2002 at aprox. 20:30 -> 21:00 cet. i engaged a Lurikeen on the midgard bridge in Thid. I killed the lurikeen and got shot at by Cohan (Hib archer). He continued to shot at me untill i was to far away. He was standing stealth on the stone.

I toke some screenshots of it and thought of reporting him to RightNow for bugexploit. But i got so mad i screenshot jumped on the rock myself and killed the dude. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!

NEXT time i get engaged from the top of those rocks - i'll report your sorry XxX to RightNow and hope you get your account's banned! Its a cheat and it ruins the gameplay - so stop it!

/salute to the rest of you Hib's - alot of good fight's tonight at the mid-bridge ... also Alb came and joined the fight hehe

 

[slapmesilly..]

uhm, I got on those rocks plenty of times just using my "jump" key

Don't start judging people so fast...

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Originally posted by slapmesilly..
uhm, I got on those rocks plenty of times just using my "jump" key

Don't start judging people so fast...

Hmm... If people can't fight you on the rocks, it's a bug exploit.
If they can stick arrows in you or nuke the grit out of you, it's not.

 

[slapmesilly..]

Originally posted by sickofit...


Hmm... If people can't fight you on the rocks, it's a bug exploit.
If they can stick arrows in you or nuke the grit out of you, it's not.

Well, I've been shot often enough while on the rock, it's just the only place that an assasin takes longer than 3 seconds to get to, so he unpops and I can see him in "shade" mode, usually I just whack 'm with my stick quikly or hit them with a bolt to scare them off when that happens.

 

[Aurilius]

Originally posted by slapmesilly..
uhm, I got on those rocks plenty of times just using my "jump" key

If it was intented that you should be able to stand on the rock - there would have been a ramp or a ladder ergo its a bugexploit.

and if you got onto the rock just using your jump key - its coz you know a place where it can be done. Normally it cant be done.

 

[slapmesilly..]

Originally posted by Aurilius



If it was intented that you should be able to stand on the rock - there would have been a ramp or a ladder ergo its a bugexploit.

and if you got onto the rock just using your jump key - its coz you know a place where it can be done. Normally it cant be done.

It can be done on houses (the roofs) bindstones, I even got all the way to the top of the DF entrance and nuked all the grey imps from there... it really isn't a bug.
It just requires you to press the "forward" key and "jump" alot.
If you consider that a bug, then I now declare myself a bug abuser and should be banned, and I will take EVERY person that EVER stood on the Gna Faste hut's roof down with me!!

(for your information, that's about 90% of Midgard.)

 

[TheGap]

Exploit Schmexploit

I watched this on my gf's screen so I know what happened.

It's not an exploit cos you can jump up there normally.

So let me get this straight you wanna report someone for sshot jumping, which they didn't do, but admit sshot jumping yourself.

Hmmmmm

Wouldn't it be funny if you'd already been reported.

 

[Aurilius]

The fact that 90% of the realm does it - dont make it legal. Getting on the roof on Gna hut dont really give you any advantage, unless it's on a PvP server.

Read CoC mate.

 

[Clovista]

re jumping

i was the luri u killed, i was masquerading as a caster as part of a cunning plan that didn't work

The archer that shot u did get up there by using the jump key, and he was quite annoyed at u for screenshot jumping up there and hitting him from behind, my apologies to anyone i have been annoyed at for jumping up there normally cos i did not realise u could jump up there using the 'a' key..
But.. if you are gonna have a go at us then please have a go at linkdead too cos he uses screenshot jumps a lot!

love and hugs
luribelle 22 ns (gimped)

 

[Aurilius]

Re: Exploit Schmexploit

Originally posted by TheGap
I watched this on my gf's screen so I know what happened.

It's not an exploit cos you can jump up there normally.

So let me get this straight you wanna report someone for sshot jumping, which they didn't do, but admit sshot jumping yourself.

Hmmmmm

Wouldn't it be funny if you'd already been reported.

Tell me something all you people:

You dont think its a cheat to access the rock and engage people from there ? We can all just find these "legal holes in textures" and use them as we see fit ?

 

[TheGap]

Simple answer,
no it's not wrong,
yes if you can be killed but it gives you an advantage then go ahead and use it.

Finding an advantage is part of the *game*, we gonna outlaw twinking next?

The day ppl stop finding holes like this is the day after the albs stop jumping on corpses

 

[Clovista]

I think that if u can get to somewhere using the jump key then no, it isn't a cheat, cos otherwise ppl would be banned for jumping onto the bridge walls etc.

And you are the one who used screenshot jumps


Luribelle CuteAsHell 22 ns (gimped)

 

[Aurilius]

Re: re jumping

The archer that shot u did get up there by using the jump key, and he was quite annoyed at u for screenshot jumping up there and hitting him from behind

He was annoyed ? pfft

How did he know i ssjumped up there ? "I just jumped up there with the jump key didn't I ??"

 

[Aurilius]

Originally posted by luribelle
I think that if u can get to somewhere using the jump key then no, it isn't a cheat, cos otherwise ppl would be banned for jumping onto the bridge walls etc.

And you are the one who used screenshot jumps


Luribelle CuteAsHell 22 ns (gimped)

I've tryed 1000 times to jump normal up there - i cant!

 

[Aurilius]

Originally posted by TheGap
Simple answer,
no it's not wrong,
yes if you can be killed but it gives you an advantage then go ahead and use it.

Then tell me plz - how am i gonna melee that archer on the rock when he attacks me on the bridge ?

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

It's simple - holes/wallbug - illegal.
Places you cannot reach by normal means (if you have to ssjump to get there) - illegal.

It's always bad if the others do it but a legal 'advantage' if your own side is involved. <- that was sarcasm if anyone needs a special explanation..

 

[Clovista]

Well obviously you are gonna ss jump up there and hit him from behind, or alternatively you could wait till he gets down, then hunt him down with your superiour stealth and kick his ass.. your choice.

Luribelle 22 ns (gimped)

 

[Clovista]

Tell u what, i'll log on now and try jumping up there myself to see if it's possible

Luribelle 22 ns (gimped)

 

[Clovista]

Just been to bg and tried, it's perfectly possible to jump onto the rocks at either end of the bridge, you just need to jump onto the bridge wall then jump onto the rock from there, so no, he didn't ss jump up there..

Also, it's not a tactic we hibs use regularly, our usual tactic is run to the bridge and get ganked in case you hadn't noticed

Love and hugs

Luribelle CuteAsHell 22 ns (gimped)

 

[Aurilius]

So there is a little "but" there hehe

You have to jump onto the bridge and then up the rock? Tnx for the info then hehe

Well ... im gonna make it my mission in BG to take out any1 standing on those stones .. regaurdless how i have to do it.

Cya out there

 

[Arlone]

Originally posted by Aurilius



If it was intented that you should be able to stand on the rock - there would have been a ramp or a ladder ergo its a bugexploit.

and if you got onto the rock just using your jump key - its coz you know a place where it can be done. Normally it cant be done.

As others have said it doesn't take a screenshotjump to get up those rocks. Now before you start posting things like this I really think you should do some more research ...

I OFTEN spot archers up there and as an assasin I quickly get them down again (by just jumping up the freking rock). If it's a bug .. they I guess mythic fixed it in 1.51 or later? but no .. they havn't.

All casters, or anyone with range, and assasins can quite easy get rid of those archers.

 

[Aurilius]

Well there is still lot's of bug's that havn't been fixed yet ..

But to cook this tread down .. I just a player that like some form of "fair play" ..... now im a player that discovers "fair play" is not /set on

I'll just play like any1 else from now - np

 

[Silence]

if it was considered overpowerful illegal etc, i am quite sure mythic would just fix it,

so shhh ya whinning,

its been there for so long and i am sure some whinners in us complained but they aint done nout, so nout wil be done ever knowing mythic.

 

[vandiax]

I am the ranger who was shooting u from the rock. and would like to say that i thought it was impossible until i found myself stood on the top, and yuli i have alrdy reported ur ass m8..........
you're frustration leads u to cheat. tut tut

 

[timbro]

ok ok let a new guy in on the lingo what the hell is a screen jump?

 

[Aurilius]

Originally posted by timbro
ok ok let a new guy in on the lingo what the hell is a screen jump?

You press the screenshot key and while the screenshot is taken - you press forward key and jump. The result is that you jump twice as high maybe more.

 

[SFXman]

When I used to go to Thid with my friar ages ago it was possible to just jump there using nothing but the jump key.
You could be shot down from there by enemies without any difficulty... don't know what the problem is but then again I haven't been in Thid for a long time.

 

[Cedig]

yep its not a bug.

If you want to get them... you have to jump onto the wall first, if you are a stealther, this means you can only approach from one direction, and if the person in the rock is lucky, you will be de-stealthed before you get to him, giving them a chance of killing you.

The fact that you screenshot'd up to get him, means that you didnt approach from the wall, and appeared behind him.

 

[VidX]

Originally posted by Aurilius
Well there is still lot's of bug's that havn't been fixed yet ..

But to cook this tread down .. I just a player that like some form of "fair play" ..... now im a player that discovers "fair play" is not /set on

I'll just play like any1 else from now - np

If it is fair play you are looking for, I suggest you go find a server that has only got level ones, only has training dirks, no healing, no shields, no magic, no stealth, no bows and is a PvP server and you cannot group.

As this is the only way that a caster can't be PA'd, a tank can't be stunned and nuked, the SB that just PA'd a friar instead of a caster and found that the friar hits back as nearly as hard as the PA did and can heal himself, and the healer than isn't nearsighted so he can't heal his teammate who is nearly dead. And there will be no zergs on this 'fair play' server.

The fact that someone was in a position that you were unable to get to without difficulty (actually, self-admitted bug abuse, but ignore that) simply because you have no ranged attacks, doesn't mean you couldn't have gone and got a RM buddy of yours to bolt his ass.

Please do a little research into things before you go screaming that people are bug abusing. Ask people in your group for example, or try it yourself without resorting to bug abuse.

And of course, if in doubt, you can always e-mail RightNow if in doubt, and they can let you know if there is a way to get up there (though I doubt they will tell you) without bug abusing.

btw, lookout for Vid later

 

[Aurilius]

Originally posted by vidx

Ask people in your group for example, or try it yourself without resorting to bug abuse.

I did. The fact is that 50% of Midgard say everytime they see people on the rooftop: Blabla says: Take ss of that thats exploiting!! As many did when midgard tryed (without a ram) to take keep from alb yesterday. Albs 1 or 2 of them was standing on the keep roof and many in /cg yelled "take ss - take ss"
+ i dont group in BG so i dont have any runie or other to save me

I still think its a bug. It dont matter that "you dont have to do anything" to get up on the rock. Or you dont have to ssjump to get on the roof of a keep. Or you dont have to jump/ect to find a hole in a wall and walk through it. I really cant belive that every1 in this forum is telling me that jumping 10-20 times up the side of a rock gaining alittle bit altitude everytime is normal gameplay in DAoC.

But since im not gonna let Slapmesilly.. be the Uberjudge of this question, i mailed RightNow. (Not to get some1 banned or anything - just to get a final answer on the issue)