Scout Template - Opinions please?

Danamyr

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This is for my Briton Scout - 45LB 42 Shield 36 Stealth 29 Slash

A few resists are a little low until I pull the Shield out, but I figure I should be OK.

*Bow Out*

STR:59/83
CON:74/83
DEX:103/96
QUI:98/82
Hits:228/264
AF:10/50

Resistances
Body: 22
Cold: 16
Heat: 16
Energy: 4
Matter: 23
Spirit: 25+5
Crush: 26+2
Slash: 16+3
Thrust: 26

Skills:
Longbow: 11
Stealth: 11
Slash: 11

Bonuses:
Archery Damage: 7
Archery Range: 10
Archery Speed: 6


*Shield Out*

STR:90/88
CON:89/88
DEX:85/96
QUI:80/82
Hits:268/264
Power:0/25
AF:10/50

Resistances
Body: 22
Cold: 25
Heat: 25
Energy: 4
Matter: 23
Spirit: 25+5
Crush: 26+2
Slash: 25+3
Thrust: 26

Skills
Longbow: 6
Stealth: 11
Slash: 11
 

Greenfingers

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it's wrong in so many ways :<

I take it you use Malice, can see it from the con/str cap increase when wielding s/s. That's an obvious choice. You use Fools bow, also good, though my choice would be Braggarts. The rest I have no clue.
What about GSV? Mariasha's? SoM? Try to fit those arties in your template if U don't already have them :) If U want to tweak your bow dmg, get GoLM.

Plz cap your these resists:
Slash, Thrust (a must!)
Body, Cold, Heat (all to 24+)
spirit/matter/energy
These are not soooo important, as not so many use matter/spirit weaps(my experience) and energy, well... only hunters kind of use this, I've meet one... on Prydwen and I pwnd him :p
 

Girafmad

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Greenfingers said:
it's wrong in so many ways :<

I take it you use Malice, can see it from the con/str cap increase when wielding s/s. That's an obvious choice. You use Fools bow, also good, though my choice would be Braggarts. The rest I have no clue.
What about GSV? Mariasha's? SoM? Try to fit those arties in your template if U don't already have them :) If U want to tweak your bow dmg, get GoLM.

Plz cap your these resists:
Slash, Thrust (a must!)
Body, Cold, Heat (all to 24+)
spirit/matter/energy
These are not soooo important, as not so many use matter/spirit weaps(my experience) and energy, well... only hunters kind of use this, I've meet one... on Prydwen and I pwnd him :p

ehh the ressists are like 1% off dont realy matter that much.
I think you'll do just fine with that template, unless ofcause its realy expensive, cause then you can do better.
Personaly i would try and get +11sheild when i got sheild/wep out. I would also try and make the template as "bowless" as posible so i could change between several bow's, fools, braggarts, immolated & ml10 bow.
 

Danamyr

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This template uses:

SoM, GSV, MSG, Malice, Twisted Malamis, Harpy Feather Charm, Blackened Wrap, Ebon Hide, Battler Sleeves and Fool's Bow.

I do have Braggart's, but Fools seems easier to SC around.

There's no way I can have +11 Shield in this template that I can see. I wanted to always have +11 Stealth, regardless of whether I had S&S or LB equipped.

I have gotten the Archer bonuses as high as I can with the items I have, and if I switch to Braggart's instead of Fool's then I am going to lose some of that.
I'll have a play around with it today and post it if I manage to improve on it.

I do appreciate the help guys, thanks :)
 

Danamyr

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Girafmad said:
I would also try and make the template as "bowless" as posible so i could change between several bow's, fools, braggarts, immolated & ml10 bow.

That would be hard I think, they are quite different as you know. I understand that Fool's is good at seiges (but have no idea why) and Braggart's is good for the Dex Cap, but in what situations would I use Immolated or the ML10 Bow and what are their strengths?

My temporary template uses the Duskwood Desert Bullhorn Bow, why don't people use that in their templates more? It has 13 Dex Cap and a nice Str/Con debuff proc.
 

Danamyr

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I have had another go, switched in GOLM and a few other small changes:

Statistics
STR:90/87 CON:87/80 DEX:101/95
QUI:52/82 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:240/240
Power:0/25
AF:10/50

Resistances
Body: 25
Cold: 26
Heat: 26
Energy: 4
Matter: 14
Spirit: 26+5
Crush: 26+2
Slash: 25+3
Thrust: 26

Skills
Longbow: 8
Stealth: 11
Slash: 11
Thrust: 4
Staff: 4

Bonuses
Archery Damage: 6
Archery Range: 9
Archery Speed: 3
Style Damage: 5
Melee Combat Speed: 7
Fatigue: 9

Ranged Configuration:
Build Utility: 771.3
Useable Utility: 771.3
TOA Utility: 243.0

Statistics
STR:62/82 CON:72/75 DEX:101/101
QUI:52/87 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:200/200
Power:0/25
AF:10/50

Resistances
Body: 25
Cold: 26
Heat: 26
Energy: 4
Matter: 14
Spirit: 23+5
Crush: 26+2
Slash: 25+3
Thrust: 26

Skills
Longbow: 11
Stealth: 10
Slash: 4
Thrust: 4
Staff: 4

Bonuses
Archery Damage: 6
Archery Range: 9
Archery Speed: 5
Melee Combat Speed: 7
Fatigue: 4

Any better?
 

Baldrian

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Danamyr said:
That would be hard I think, they are quite different as you know. I understand that Fool's is good at seiges (but have no idea why) and Braggart's is good for the Dex Cap, but in what situations would I use Immolated or the ML10 Bow and what are their strengths?

My temporary template uses the Duskwood Desert Bullhorn Bow, why don't people use that in their templates more? It has 13 Dex Cap and a nice Str/Con debuff proc.

Fools bow have a siege proc at lvl 10, main reason why its allways nice to have, allways helps on doors/oil ect. Downside I think(not sure about this) is you get that stupid circle around you when it procs, also against player targets, if you are a sniper that will make you much easier to spot.

Braggarts is really nice, its a heavier bow than Fools = more dam. It also have a use ability where you can get arrows with +10% range, again rather nifty. and it have 1% more damage and range on thats than fools does.

Immolated bow afaik have a proc that resistpierce thrust with 5%, combined with thrustarrows and volley(for a towertop maybe) seems good, stats are not that uber but dont matter that much when using volley.

As for ML10 bow I have no clue. :)

But would be easier to help if we know what kinda spec/playstyle you use :)
 

Danamyr

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Baldrian said:
But would be easier to help if we know what kinda spec/playstyle you use :)

Well, I am no tower humper, that's for sure :)

I like to hang around bridges, visit the enemy artifact levelling spots in the Frontier etc. I'll do as much damage as I can then switch to S&S and hope to finish them off.

The template I posted above has been revised as indicated, but I've also swapped Fool's Bow for Braggart's Bow as I already have it activated. I would really rather just use one bow then swap them around, so I'll stick to Braggart's now I think ;)
 

Danamyr

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*Bump*

Opinions still required on updated template please :)
 

Thorwyn

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You´re losing CON and hit points when switching to sword and board, which is a bad idea. Also,try getting some +shield into the template.

Maybe post the entire template (with items and stats), so we can see what items you´re using.
 

Jaem-

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1st template has way too much qui if your a briton, 2nd template I believe won't cap it, if you are a bow scout I would have thought speed would have been a big concern for you.

The hp debuff when switching between bow and s/s looks as if malice is being used. :p
If so, playing to what he said, only finishing off with s/s he'd not gain anything from that hp anyways, 72-74con seems good enough to me tbh.
 

Danamyr

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Thorwyn[B&Q] said:
You´re losing CON and hit points when switching to sword and board, which is a bad idea. Also,try getting some +shield into the template.

Maybe post the entire template (with items and stats), so we can see what items you´re using.

You're reading it wrong, I gain Con and HP when switching to S&S, not lose it :)
 

Danamyr

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Jaem- said:
1st template has way too much qui if your a briton, 2nd template I believe won't cap it, if you are a bow scout I would have thought speed would have been a big concern for you.

I am not hugely bothered about capping Qui, it won't be a million miles off anyway. If I tried to cap it, it'd be at the expense of other stats or resists and there's no room for manouvre :(
 

Thorwyn

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oh.. you switched positions of bow/shield then :)
First template had bow, then S+S, second was the other way round.

Anyways, as I said, post the entire template for a more detailed discussion.
 

Danamyr

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Thorwyn[B&Q] said:
Anyways, as I said, post the entire template for a more detailed discussion.

Statistics
STR:90/87 CON:87/80 DEX:101/95
QUI:52/82 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:240/240
Power:0/25
AF:10/50

Resistances
Body: 25
Cold: 26
Heat: 26
Energy: 4
Matter: 14
Spirit: 26+5
Crush: 26+2
Slash: 25+3
Thrust: 26

Skills
Longbow: 8
Stealth: 11
Slash: 11
Thrust: 4
Staff: 4

Bonuses
Archery Damage: 6
Archery Range: 9
Archery Speed: 3
Style Damage: 5
Melee Combat Speed: 7
Fatigue: 9

Ranged Configuration:
Build Utility: 771.3
Useable Utility: 771.3
TOA Utility: 243.0

Statistics
STR:62/82 CON:72/75 DEX:101/101
QUI:52/87 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:200/200
Power:0/25
AF:10/50

Resistances
Body: 25
Cold: 26
Heat: 26
Energy: 4
Matter: 14
Spirit: 23+5
Crush: 26+2
Slash: 25+3
Thrust: 26

Skills
Longbow: 11
Stealth: 10
Slash: 4
Thrust: 4
Staff: 4

Bonuses
Archery Damage: 6
Archery Range: 9
Archery Speed: 5
Melee Combat Speed: 7
Fatigue: 4

Chest (Golden Scarab Vest):
Imbue: 25.0
15 Dexterity
6% Crush
6% Slash
6% Thrust
4 Archery Range
4 Archery Damage
Utility: 46.0
TOA Utility: 40.0

Arms (Smoldering Cinder Sleeves):
Imbue: 40.0
6% Thrust
6% Crush
2 ALL melee weapon skills
15 Dexterity
22 Constitution
22 Strength
Utility: 73.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
76 Hits
5% Body
28 Constitution
3 Longbow
Utility: 62.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
9% Heat
16 Dexterity
9% Cold
9% Slash
Utility: 64.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands (Mariasha's Sharkskin Gloves):
Imbue: 28.0
3 Longbow
4% Crush
4% Slash
4% Thrust
4% Heat
4% Cold
4% Energy
3 Archery Speed
3 Archery Range
Utility: 63.0
TOA Utility: 30.0

Feet:
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
9% Spirit
68 Hits
7% Heat
7% Cold
Utility: 63.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (Malice's Axe):
Imbue: 20.0
15 Strength
15 Constitution
40 Hits
5 Strength Cap Increase
5 Constitution Cap Increase
40 Hits Cap Increase
5 Style Damage
5 Fatigue
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 65.0

Left Hand:
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
13 Strength
3% Spirit
7 Slash
1 Stealth
Utility: 54.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Ranged (Braggart's Bow):
Imbue: 10.0
2 Archery Speed
5 Quickness Cap Increase
6 Dexterity Cap Increase
3 Longbow
Utility: 15.0
TOA Utility: 32.0

Neck (Ancient Copper Necklace):
Imbue: 45.0
10% Body
10% Spirit
10% Crush
10% Thrust
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Shades of Mist):
Imbue: 25.0
3 Stealth
3 Parry
15 Strength
15 Quickness
4 Fatigue
10 AF
5 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 43.0

Jewel (Gem of Lost Memories):
Imbue: 18.5
10 Constitution
24 Hits
4% Matter
4% Body
2 ALL archery skills
2 Archery Damage
2 Archery Range
Utility: 38.7
TOA Utility: 20.0

Belt (Twisted Hair of Malamis):
Imbue: 19.0
2 Melee Combat Speed
7 Strength Cap Increase
7 Dexterity Cap Increase
4 Stealth
12 Dexterity
Utility: 28.0
TOA Utility: 38.0

Left Ring (Cenalon's Ring of Might):
Imbue: 31.0
25 Strength
12 Constitution
12 Dexterity
4% Matter
4% Spirit
Utility: 48.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Spellbound Indigo Ring):
Imbue: 23.0
21 Quickness
15 Dexterity
6 Dexterity Cap Increase
32 Hits
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 12.0

Left Wrist (Blackened Wrap):
Imbue: 24.0
2 ALL melee weapon skills
3 Stealth
16 Dexterity
16 Quickness
7 Dexterity Cap Increase
7 Quickness Cap Increase
Utility: 46.3
TOA Utility: 28.0

Right Wrist (Ebon Hide Bracer):
Imbue: 30.0
6% Cold
6% Body
6% Heat
6% Slash
6% Matter
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
 

Gethin

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This is the template i use on Gethin. It designed for a thrust briton looking to be a sniper. It will work with any top drawer bow (although i use braggarts). The downside is that is rather expensive to get it (300+ plat at todays prices).

It includes all the major scout arti's

GSV
Winged Helm
MSG
Braggarts
SOM

LOKI Build Report
Sword Shield Configuration:
Build Utility: 907.3
Useable Utility: 900.3
TOA Utility: 193.0

Statistics
STR:70/75
CON:77/75
DEX:102/95
QUI:65/75
Hits:204/200
AF:20/50

Resistances
Body: 25
Cold: 26
Heat: 24
Energy: 25
Matter: 24
Spirit: 21+5
Crush: 25+2
Slash: 25+3
Thrust: 26

Skills
Longbow: 8
Stealth: 11
Thrust: 11
Shield: 11

Bonuses
Archery Damage: 4
Archery Range: 7
Archery Speed: 7
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Fatigue: 9

Ranged Configuration:
Build Utility: 792.7
Useable Utility: 789.7
TOA Utility: 265.0

Statistics
STR:54/75
CON:77/75
DEX:102/101
QUI:65/80
Hits:204/200
AF:20/50

Resistances
Body: 22
Cold: 26
Heat: 24
Energy: 22
Matter: 24
Spirit: 21+5
Crush: 25+2
Slash: 25+3
Thrust: 25

Skills
Longbow: 11
Stealth: 11
Shield: 1

Bonuses
Archery Damage: 7
Archery Range: 12
Archery Speed: 9
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Fatigue: 14

Chest (Scarab Wing Vest):
Imbue: 24.0
15 Dexterity
5% Crush
6% Slash
6% Thrust
4 Archery Range
4 Archery Damage
Utility: 44.0
TOA Utility: 40.0

Arms:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
5 Longbow
5 Stealth
5% Cold
28 Hits
Utility: 67.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head (Winged Helm):
Imbue: 28.0
40 Hits
5 Fatigue
10 AF
15 Dexterity
5% Spirit
15 Strength
5% Matter
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 20.0

Legs:
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
28 Quickness
28 Constitution
9% Slash
1 Shield
Utility: 60.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands (Mariasha's Sharkskin Gloves):
Imbue: 28.0
3 Longbow
3 Archery Speed
4% Crush
4% Thrust
4% Slash
3 Archery Range
4% Heat
4% Cold
4% Energy
Utility: 63.0
TOA Utility: 30.0

Feet:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
25 Constitution
22 Quickness
3 Stealth
9% Heat
Utility: 64.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Hand:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
5 Shield
5 Thrust
16 Strength
3% Body
Utility: 66.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Hand:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
5 Shield
6 Thrust
1% Thrust
3% Energy
Utility: 63.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Ranged (Braggart's Bow):
Imbue: 10.0
6 Dexterity Cap Increase
5 Quickness Cap Increase
2 Archery Speed
5 Fatigue
3 Archery Damage
5 Archery Range
3 Longbow
Utility: 15.0
TOA Utility: 82.0

Neck (Ancient Copper Necklace):
Imbue: 45.0
10% Body
10% Crush
10% Spirit
10% Thrust
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Shades of Mist):
Imbue: 20.0
3 Stealth
15 Strength
15 Quickness
5 Melee Combat Speed
4 Fatigue
10 AF
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 43.0

Jewel (Harpy Feather Charm):
Imbue: 31.0
44 Hits
6% Body
6% Cold
6% Heat
6% Matter
Utility: 59.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Belt (Traldor's Belt):
Imbue: 27.0
5% Cold
6% Crush
5% Heat
5% Thrust
6% Slash
Utility: 54.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Ring of Silent Oblivion):
Imbue: 41.0
24 Constitution
24 Strength
32 Hits
8% Energy
7% Matter
Utility: 70.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Zahur's Ring):
Imbue: 40.0
60 Hits
6% Body
6% Cold
6% Energy
6% Matter
6% Spirit
Utility: 75.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (Shaitan Wind Bracer):
Imbue: 25.0
2% Energy
36 Dexterity
2 Archery Speed
10 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 28.0
TOA Utility: 30.0

Right Wrist (Shaitan Wind Bracer):
Imbue: 25.0
2% Energy
36 Dexterity
2 Archery Speed
10 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 28.0
TOA Utility: 30.0
 

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