Sb Spec ?

Cylian

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Without Auto-training

atleast you can PA
Perf-Zerk
50 Weapon
39 LA
35 Stealth
25 Envenom
21 CS

Why did you roll a Stealther ?
Shadowzerk
44 Weapon
44 Left Axe
10 CS
35 Stealth
33 Envenom

Jack-of-all-trades ... equally performing at everything, but good at nothing
4.5-Spec
44 Weapon
39 LA
34 CS
22 Envenom
35 Stealth

Shadowzergling
doesn't matter

pwn!
Infeeel
50 Slash
44 Critical Strike
35 Stealth
30 Dual Wield
25 Envenom
 

Cylian

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other question would be, why even bother rolling one ? :eek7:
 

Farbaute2

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Maybe a Mythic or Goa employe could answer here. I think we all want to know how to spec sbs. For example how much spec is needed in Aug?
 

Cylian

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50 Weapon
50 LA
30ish stealth
Aug.Str 5
DR5
RR11
and an Aug. Shammy/Healer combo
 

Farbaute2

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Or if you roll a hunter instead then you can have realmabilities like ignore pain and true sight and also use bow and pet and better armour.
Hunters can also spec sword you know so you will look like a sb anyway :)
 

Farbaute2

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here is an experimental spec for sbs that need battlemaster 4 to work as intended but on the other hand you dont need to waste time getting any equipment at all or level a bot, and if you want you can even use staff. You will only need 3 buttons on your quickbar: Stelth, lifebane and grapple.

50 stelth
50 envenom
37 Critical strike
 

Kedoz

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I tried to find a ballansed spec:

39Sword
39LA
34CS
36Stealth
29Envenom

But I would like to respec to :

50 Sword
44 LA
21CS
35Stealth
15Envenom

The reason I want to respec is that my melee dmg is to low, and how offen do you get in PA\CD in a asassin fight anyway?
I will only be able to use a low lvl poison.. wich in many cases are sad.. but I hope and think that the melee dmg count more than the lvl 37 debuff. At RR 4 you can use the -71 str\con debuff, and im hopeing that is enough

Any comments about this spec are welcome, cuz im open to try diffrent specs.
 

Cylian

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question would be, why 50 Sword and 44 LA ... either you're using Ragnarök or Snowsquall/Icy as rear styles.
1 Weaponspecc equals ~6 Weaponskill, so only reason to go from 44 to 50 is the style.
The question is always: what do you gain with a spec, and what do you loose. With 50/44 you gain a 2nd option for a rear style, a little bit more base damage and loose on the debuffs, which means your opponent will have more WS left during the fight.
 

Overdriven

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Character Builder: For a Shadowblade. [With 3 specc points left over, un-autod]

CritbladeZerker.

44A
44LA
34CS
35 Stealth
35 Env.
5 Sword.


Is this right? or has Character Builder screwed up - rememeber, un-auto trained.


EDIT: Character Builder screwed up :[ impossible specc.
 

Gizor

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Specing 50 sword(or axe for that matter) is a waste...Snowsquall + Icy Brilliance > Ragnarök.
Think I'd even go 50 left axe before going 50 in weapon, as we will lose Dualist Reflexes realm ability in New Frontiers.
 

Haroat

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spec atm is 39 main, 39 la, 36 stealth, 29 env, 34 crit.. am rr2L7 and find outdamaging all but infils + light tanks very very easy.. then again am fully toa'd and havent rvr'd since we lost relics so that will make a big diff... also have been

44main
44la
21cs
36 stealth
rest env (was low.. like 5 or somethin :p)

enjoyed that, can outdamage infil's _just_ depending on styles etc
 

xenia-

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xenia is soulblade specced atm:

50 sword
39 la
34 cs
35 stealth
4 env

like it alot actually, and lvl16-18 disease + snare sticks surprisingly often - not sure what ill do in NF, but will definately include higher la as DR goes.
 

Kedoz

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Haroat said:
spec atm is 39 main, 39 la, 36 stealth, 29 env, 34 crit.. am rr2L7 and find outdamaging all but infils + light tanks very very easy..

Erm Haroat thats the EXACT spec and RR that i have and you say ur dmg is equal to infils? *runs over to goa, and tells tham to debug my char*

I dont mean to turn this thread into a SB whine thread, but seriously if I suddenly did 2x the dmg I do today... I still might lose 90% off the 1v1 fights I end up in :( Also after PA'ing Pbuck for 273 dmg I cried.. what that all about.

Just to make this the perfect whine thread ill paste a fight I had yesterday:

You prepare to perform a Perforate Artery!
Polidoros is too far away to attack!
You are no longer hidden!
Infil attacks you with his sword!
infil hits you for 297 damage.
Your Strength has decreased.
Your Constitution has decreased.
Your hits have decreased.
You feel weaker!
Infil attacks you with his axe!
Infil hits you for 215 damage.
Constricting bonds surround your body!
You enter combat mode and target [Infil]
You must be hidden to perform this style!
You fail to execute your Perforate Artery perfectly. <---- opsy also called noobish :mad:
You attack Infil with your sword and hit for 63 (-26) damage!
You critical hit for an additional 20 damage!
You attack Infil with your axe and hit for 55 (-23) damage!
You prepare to perform a Creeping Death!
Infil attacks you with his sword!
You evade Infil attack!
Infil attacks you with his axe!
Infil hits you for 223 damage.
You prepare to perform a Doublefrost!
Scout casts a spell!
You cannot move!
Scout casts a spell!
Mincer hits you for 221 damage.
You are no longer preparing to use your Doublefrost style!
Mincer casts a spell!
Mincer hits you for 192 damage.
Mincer casts a spell!
Infil attacks you with his sword!
Infil hits you for 405 damage.
Infil attacks you with his axe!
Infil hits you for 272 damage.
Mincer attacks you with his axe!
Mincer hits you for 283 damage.
Elixa was just killed by Mincer!

Well this was the only fight I found.. and its a pretty bad example, cuz I only got off 2 failed styles, no fun useing SL and seeing 3 stealthers heading straight for you. The infils dmg isnt to impressive either.

You perform your Doublefrost perfectly. (+61)
You attack XXX with your sword and hit for 111 (-41) damage!
You hit XXX for 13 extra damage!
You attack XXX with your axe and hit for 60 (-22) damage!
You critical hit for an additional 28 damage!
You hit XXX for 13 extra damage!

This is a normal swing useing battler\malice vs a mincer

Well that was todays whine.. hope you enjoyed it :cheers:
 

xenia-

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well, dont believe everything you read, post some logs if you have claims about dmg, otherwise I'll have to call bs ;)
 

Gizor

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QQ, Kedoz!!!

Drop the r0g-suit before you being to whine :p
 

Bubble

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39 LA is a must
That stunstyle can be the difference between winning and losing.


Kedoz-
I wouldn't expect great damage v a class in chain and Abative chant. (Possible AP too) just be happy they melee you back for 60
 

Cylian

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and skip Doublefrost, either Draw Out if you go high Sword specc, or Garrote/Achilles Heel if you got the CS way ... DF is a waste of end.

aaaaand disable the style canceling, nothing worse than loosing a style due to double clicking.
 

Kedoz

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Gizor shhh!! Nah im in crafted suit now ;) And yes im not 100% toa suited yet.. but have caped needed sb resists\stats\hits\melee speed, still need a few lvls on my battler for anything more.

well, dont believe everything you read, post some logs if you have claims about dmg, otherwise I'll have to call bs

My last post was a log... you cant actualy see my dmg there, cuz i got stunned, and I knew the outcome and cba'ed to waste my purge just to die 10 sec's later.

But dont get me wrong.. im enjoying my SB, thats the reason I have been playing it every her almost every day the last 2 weeks :p
But I dont think mythic\goa can justify giveing the other assassins classes advantages. Start a poll imo; Would sb's drop 100hp for 2.5 points?
 

Ucallme

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When we had Str Relics my sb was hitting main hand for 250ish off hand 90-120

Spec

50 swd
39 left axe
36 stealth
21 crit strike
24 venom

Amphrax
Ucallme
 

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