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I think alot of these changes are OP - though some are very good.

'Soldiers Citadel' seems like a great boost for Armsman, I think by 1.81 they should be quite the opposite of underpowered. I don't like the group cure all, thats basically like a smaller version of group purge, though I guess this will make fights last longer.
 

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now one might /ponder wtf is going to happen to the grp cure disease and nearsight cure in perfector ML line:confused:
 

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Zrall said:
now one might /ponder wtf is going to happen to the grp cure disease and nearsight cure in perfector ML line:confused:

classic server ppl gonna love it :p
 

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- Realm points will now be awarded for healing players who are involved in RvR combat. You will receive roughly 5% of the amount of hp you restored in realm points.

let the leeching begin :p
 

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the cure all doesn't work for cc :p

and the changes look ok, rps for healing isn't that big of a deal really. it'd only mean a few k extra in a full day of rvr.

i do think the changes in poison are fucking stupid, changing it to a ws debuff is great (claimed this was a solution for ages) but they STILL add the con debuff. the entire thing thats overpowered about the debuff is the con, it makes using PA totally worthless other than for the cd stun.

oh well

and strong mid boost again by giving cure ns to healers at 40 mend, healers can afford it but shears >> cure ns for cleric/druid
 

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Vodkafairy said:
i do think the changes in poison are fucking stupid, changing it to a ws debuff is great (claimed this was a solution for ages) but they STILL add the con debuff. the entire thing thats overpowered about the debuff is the con, it makes using PA totally worthless other than for the cd stun.

I thought most whine came from the sb's strongly effected by both the str/con poison compared to other realm assasins whom wasnt so effected by the Str? Could be wrong but that was my impression
 

Basic_X

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lots of good changes there, mythic is going the right way! i dont belive it :D
 

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^Onk said:
I thought most whine came from the sb's strongly effected by both the str/con poison compared to other realm assasins whom wasnt so effected by the Str? Could be wrong but that was my impression


The problem is that, while it might seem superficially as Shadowblade-love, it is not.

The major reason for Infils and NS's to spec Thrust/Pierce was because of having a higher WS after the STR/CON-debuff which u get every time u fight another assassin.

Now, with this change, a Pierce/Thrust-user is affected the same way as a Blade/Slash-user. Now there's less reason to stay at Pierce/Thrust so more people will respec to Blades/Slash.

So far so good, but the problem is that Shadowblades are weak to slashing damage. So as a result they will fight more people with a damage-type they weak to.

Ofcourse Pierce/Thrust had another advantage, namely the fact you could get an off-evade stun as Inf/NS.

However, when you go Blades/Slash, you can slack DEX abit more, resulting in a better overall SC (resist and HP-wise) not to mention getting more TOA-bonusses because of the use of Malice/Battler or Malice/Champ-weapon.

For my ranger, there's zero reason to stay pierce anymore, it will go Blades most likely. My Nightshade is abit undecided on the subject. Ive always liked the Legendary-weapons, and they aint really good for blades in Hibernia (3.6-3.7 speed iirc) and Diamondback is very nice against some people. But abit of strafing in Ice-storm will fix that anyhow :)
 

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but but but but but but but but but but but but but my pierce bonus versus debuffs ;/

guess every shade will just go blades from RR1 :twak: :twak: :twak: :twak:
 

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Vodkafairy said:
and strong mid boost again by giving cure ns to healers at 40 mend, healers can afford it but shears >> cure ns for cleric/druid

Yup very annoying, on first read was hoping to be able to switch to convoker.

I guess any druid who happens to be using the old style 40 reg 36 nat line and is convoker will get some love tho :)
 

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Puppet said:
My Nightshade is abit undecided on the subject. Ive always liked the Legendary-weapons

me aswell..but before this patch goes live..LWs get a bit of a nerf in the shape of DR...every fooker out there will have the 10% self buffed sists from champ lvls...so LWs wont have the punch they do now.
 

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for me..once all this shite goes live..i reckon the question of blades versus pierce is gonna be almost entirely down to:

4 sec evade stun...or uber template.....
 

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LW > malice still imo and remedy stops that naughty debuff anyways :(
 

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Puppet said:
... stuff..

Totally agree with ya.

This is a major nerf to Hunters too.

Hunter Spear is Dex / Str so new debuff effects 100% now instead of 50%

Debuff now effects an Archers bow, so archers will probably hit shit when they try to kite or assassin is inside a FZ.

Every Muppet will go slash and Hunter is vulnerable to slash.

Slash means Malice the arti that the hunter (lol the Melee Hunter!) can't activate.

Ouch....
 

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Dorimor1 said:
Lol healer classes could get to RR10 in a matter of months.


Omg that should be restricted to warlocks only ;)
 

Vodkafairy

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^Onk said:
I thought most whine came from the sb's strongly effected by both the str/con poison compared to other realm assasins whom wasnt so effected by the Str? Could be wrong but that was my impression

i have had the same problem on my blade ns for over 2 years, but that was my choice :p
 

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patchnotes 1.81 said:
Poisons 22: 12% Weaponskill & 45 Con
Poisons 29: 16% Weaponskill & 61 Con
Poisons 37: 20% Weaponskill & 81 Con
Poisons 47: 25% Weaponskill & 108 Con

thats an fucking archer melee nerfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff.

particularly an thrust/piercing archer nerf.

str/con didnt effected thrust/piercing dramaticly cause the most ws cames through dex, but changing str/con debuff into ws/con debuff SUX.

hope im wrong :(
 

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Oh no! it's a conspiration vs scouts, now more ppl will buy purge 3 and slam will be useless!!
 

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Hahahahah :) Time to revenge
as they said ; Revenge is a dish best served cold !!!
 

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