Savage temp - critique plz

Nausilus^^

Can't get enough of FH
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Been thinking back and forth about making a new savage template, which will be my 5th and last ToA template for that char hopefully :)
Posting below my current template first and new template after that:

CURRENT TEMPLATE
Config Report

Stats

Str: 101 Int: 0 Hits: 356
Con: 90 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 83 Cha: 0
Qui: 22 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 30 (5) Energy: 15 Crush: 28
Cold: 27 Matter: 15 Thrust: 30 (3)
Heat: 26 Spirit: 20 Slash: 29 (2)

Skills

11 Hand To Hand

4 Parry

Focus

Cap Increases

7 Dexterity

120 Hits

24 Strength

13 Constitution

Other Bonuses

8 Melee Damage

5 Fatigue

4 Style Damage

50 AF

10 Melee Combat Speed

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Golden Scarab Vest (light tank)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 6 Crush
Effect 3: 6 Slash
Effect 4: 6 Thrust
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 16 Strength - 99 Polished Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 4 Hand To Hand - 99 Flawed Lightning Charged War Rune
Gem 3: 9 Slash - 99 Polished Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Energy - 99 Polished Light Shielding
Utility: 66.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 Flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 19 Dexterity - 99 Faceted Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 7 Heat - 99 Imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 60 Hits - 99 Precious Blood Essence
Utility: 58.33

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 19 Constitution - 99 Faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 25 Dexterity - 99 Flawless Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 7 Heat - 99 Imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 60 Hits - 99 Precious Blood Essence
Utility: 58.33

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 76 Hits - 99 Perfect Blood Essence
Gem 2: 5 Cold - 99 Flawed Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 5 Thrust - 99 Flawed Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 11 Spirit - 99 Faceted Vapor Shielding
Utility: 61.00

Feet
Name: arcanium Soot Tainted Boots
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 38.00

Right Hand
Name: arcanium Salamander Tail
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Dexterity
Effect 2: 22 Quickness
Effect 3: 4 Hand To Hand
Effect 4: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.67

Left Hand
Name: Snakecharmer's Greave
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Hand To Hand
Effect 2: 4 Heat
Effect 3: 4 Cold
Effect 4: 4 Energy
Effect 5: 4 Matter
Effect 6: 4 Body
Effect 7: 4 Spirit
Effect 8: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 9: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 63.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Beaded Resisting Stones
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body
Effect 2: 10 Cold
Effect 3: 10 Crush
Effect 4: 10 Thrust
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Harpy Feather Cloak
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Crush
Effect 2: 6 Slash
Effect 3: 6 Thrust
Effect 4: 4 Parry
Effect 5: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Jewel
Name: Dreamsphere
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Fatigue
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Matter
Effect 4: 5 Body
Effect 5: 5 Spirit
Effect 6: 15 AF
Effect 7: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 40.00

Belt
Name: Plaited Hair of Malamis
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 18 Constitution
Effect 3: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 7 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 24.00

Right Ring
Name: Krojer's Strength Ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Strength
Effect 2: 2 Cold
Effect 3: 2 Heat
Effect 4: 2 Energy
Effect 5: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 10 AF
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 26.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of the Brute
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Strength
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 7 Constitution
Effect 4: 25 AF
Effect 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 19.33

Right Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Slash
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Matter
Effect 4: 6 Body
Effect 5: 6 Heat
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracers (str)
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 6 Crush
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

With this template my stats are:

str: 329
con: 303
dex: 357
qui: 213

NEW TEMPLATE
Config Report

Stats

Str: 101 Int: 0 Hits: 240
Con: 87 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 100 Cha: 0
Qui: 59 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 29 Energy: 27 (5) Crush: 33 (5)
Cold: 27 Matter: 19 Thrust: 22
Heat: 26 Spirit: 27 Slash: 26

Skills

11 Hand To Hand

2 Hammer

2 Sword

2 Axe

Focus

Cap Increases

25 Dexterity

40 Hits

25 Strength

12 Constitution

5 Quickness

Other Bonuses

7 Melee Damage

10 AF

4 Style Damage

7 Melee Combat Speed

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor (tank)
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Strength - 99 Flawless Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 1 Hand To Hand - 99 Raw Lightning Charged War Rune
Gem 3: 11 Energy - 99 Faceted Light Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Heat - 99 Polished Heated Shielding
Utility: 61.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 16 Constitution - 99 Polished Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 9 Cold - 99 Polished Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Heat - 99 Polished Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Energy - 99 Polished Light Shielding
Utility: 64.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 16 Dexterity - 99 Polished Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 22 Constitution - 99 Precious Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 9 Spirit - 99 Polished Vapor Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Slash - 99 Polished Watery Shielding
Utility: 61.33

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: 3 Melee Damage
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 16 Constitution - 99 Polished Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 28 Hits - 99 Flawed Blood Essence
Gem 3: 5 Slash - 99 Flawed Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 13 Matter - 99 Precious Earthen Shielding
Utility: 53.67

Right Hand
Name: arcanium Salamander Tail
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Dexterity
Effect 2: 22 Quickness
Effect 3: 4 Hand To Hand
Effect 4: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.67

Left Hand
Name: Salamander's Tail
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Dexterity
Effect 2: 22 Quickness
Effect 3: 4 Hand To Hand
Effect 4: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.67

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Beaded Resisting Stones
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body
Effect 2: 10 Cold
Effect 3: 10 Crush
Effect 4: 10 Thrust
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Feathered Wrap
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Spirit
Effect 2: 6 Body
Effect 3: 6 Crush
Effect 4: 6 Thrust
Effect 5: 6 Slash
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 70.00

Jewel
Name: Harpy Feather Charm
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 44 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Matter
Effect 4: 6 Body
Effect 5: 6 Heat
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.00

Belt
Name: Plaited Hair of Malamis
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 18 Constitution
Effect 3: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 7 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 24.00

Right Ring
Name: Band of Shadow
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Crush
Effect 2: 6 Slash
Effect 3: 6 Thrust
Effect 4: 7 Body
Effect 5: 7 Spirit
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.00

Left Ring
Name: Krojer's Dextierity Ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Dexterity
Effect 2: 2 Cold
Effect 3: 2 Heat
Effect 4: 2 Energy
Effect 5: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 10 AF
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 26.00

Right Wrist
Name: Naxos Abalone Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 22 Strength
Effect 2: 48 Hits
Effect 3: 2 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 36.67

Left Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracers (str)
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 6 Crush
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

in this template my stats are:

str: 330
con: 302
dex: 375
qui: 250

Resists obviously are better in new one, toa bonusses slightly worse, stat caps better....

Any input, good advice, critique warmly welcomed :cheers:
 

Taobitz

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Didnt look at it but its crap cause you made it!

.... after looking at it. it seems pretty good. Well done etc :drink:
 

Neo

Loyal Freddie
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only thing i didnt like was 7% melee speed, other then that looked nice :)
 

Melachi

Fledgling Freddie
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The only thing that template lacks is ToA% bonuses, and unfortunately sally tails are so good that savages need to get the bonuses from armor/items.

Your resists are perfect, stats are perfect, but if you could fit in GoLM you would get 6%style damage and 9%melee damage, but its not that important.


Which gives more returns for investment, stat caps or toa % bonuses, I dunno but I suspect the % bonuses.
 

Nausilus^^

Can't get enough of FH
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As far as +%-melee speed goes, I don't even think I'd need the 7% I have in template. Only the +% style/melee dmg would be an extra bonus, but since I already have +25% melee dmg from shouts, I think that returns from capping those bonusses would be minimal. I could camp GoLM 24/7 for credit/arti, but for that extra 2% style/melee dmg, I'd rather go for an item I already have and trade those 2 percents for some extra resists/stats.

After all, if you have 6% style dmg and 9% melee dmg, I imagine you'd have something like this:

you hit for 200 base dmg
6%*200dmg = 12dmg
9%*200dmg = 18dmg

Total dmg = 230dmg

Not sure of that how it works, but if it is, I think I can live with it :)
 

ogmonda

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btw any chance where can i see some template's with champion's weapon's?
 

Nausilus^^

Can't get enough of FH
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There should be _plenty_ of those on VN boards :) Think I also have a few lying somewhere, but cba posting unless you really want me to.
 

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