RvR ranged abilities? Balanced?

[Xajorkith]

I was looking at all the ranged abilities above 1500 range as I was curious to see which realm had the best siege capability and to also see which classes my Hunter had to counter the most (siege and ground).

Is it all balanced? /discuss

Looks like Mid needs a new NS class... please please put it in Beastcraft

All stats are taken from the Herald... I ain't played all 43 classes, so please don't flame if I got some wrong, just correct me please....
Like why is Theurgist at 2000 range when all other pet type classes are at 1500...


EDIT
**** Warlock Nearsight is 1500 range, which is why I missed it ****
**** As it is about RANGE should it be included? *****


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Nearsight classes:
Alb 2
Hib 2
Mid 1

Bolt classes:
Alb 1
Hib 2
Mid 3

Archer Range:
Alb 2200
Hib 2100
Mid 2000

Buff Shear range:
Alb 1750
Hib 1600
(Mid 1500)

AoE Mez:
Alb 1875
(Hib 1500)
(Mid 1500)

Special:
2000 Theurgist Summon Elemental
2300 Bainshee Taunt
3000 Warlock (Primer) + 1700 Thane DD

Classes > 1500 range
Alb 6
Hib 5
Mid 6

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Albion:
2300 Cabalist Nearsight
2300 Wizard Nearsight
2300 Sorcerer Amnesia + AoE Amnesia
2200 Scout Bow
2000 Theurgist Summon xxx Elemental
1875 Wizard Bolt
1875 Sorcerer Mesmerise (Aoe)
1750 Cleric Buff Shear

Hibernia:
2300 Bainshee Nearsight
2300 Eldritch Nearsight
2300 Bard Amnesia + AoE Amnesia
2300 Bainshee Taunt
2100 Ranger Bow
1875 Bainshee Bolt
1875 Eldritch Bolt
1600 Druid Buff Shear

Midgard:
3000 Warlock (Primer)
2300 Runemaster Nearsight
2300 Healer Amnesia + AoE Amnesia
2000 Hunter Bow
1875 Runemaster Bolt
1875 Shaman Bolt
1875 Warlock Bolt
1700 Thane DD
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[Javai]

I thought Mids had two nearsight classes - RM and WL?

 

[Cylian]

Mid Nearsight: RM (Supp) and WL

 

[Konah]

mids already have 2 ns classes, runy and waruke:lock

looks like alb needs another 2 bolt classes to bring us into line tbh, cabby and theurg imo ;p

 

[Darzil]

It's worth mentioning that Theurgist elemental summons (like Animists bombers), won't path into or out from a keep.

So, as an earth theurg standing on a battlement to defend, I don't have any spells longer than the standard DD.

Darzil

 

[Inso]

It's worth mentioning that Theurgist elemental summons (like Animists bombers), won't path into or out from a keep.

So, as an earth theurg standing on a battlement to defend, I don't have any spells longer than the standard DD.

Darzil

Funny, as a warrior standing on a battlement to defend, I don't have any spells.

And all fights are in keeps tbh.

 

[Xajorkith]

I thought Mids had two nearsight classes - RM and WL?

Ah missed it becuase Warlock NS is 1500 range and I only included > 1500...

2300 Nearsight classes:
Alb 2
Hib 2
Mid 1 (+ Warlock 1500)

 

[Javai]

Ah missed it becuase Warlock NS is 1500 range and I only included > 1500...

2300 Nearsight classes:
Alb 2
Hib 2
Mid 1 (+ Warlock 1500)

Haven't played WL extensively but my understanding was it could be primer'd to the 3k range? (Need a WL expert to be sure)

 

[Darzil]

Funny, as a warrior standing on a battlement to defend, I don't have any spells.

And all fights are in keeps tbh.

And the subject was classes with more than 1500 range.

Darzil

 

[Konstantin]

mids already have 2 ns classes, runy and waruke:lock

looks like alb needs another 2 bolt classes to bring us into line tbh, cabby and theurg imo ;p

 

[Ronso]

Hibs need another lifetap class that isnt shit

 

[Glacier]

warlock nearsight on farcast is like 2300 isnt it?

 

[Fuaip]

Hibs need another lifetap class that isnt shit

Animist aint shit.. can be quite good, just need some more CC to be perfect as their damage is über

 

[Andrilyn]

looks like alb needs another 2 bolt classes to bring us into line tbh, cabby and theurg imo ;p

Alb is also lacking PBAE and AoE damage compared to the other realms.
Wish they gave Albs another PBAE class that has PBAE in a non gimped line which would make keep/tower defends alot easier.

 

[Arumos]

The range of the primer depends on how the warlock is specced. for instance with 50 hex 20 WC and 10% range. i can cast a spell combinded with range primer (2000) at 2200 range. however for some reason many warlocks nowadays feel the need to gimp themselves further by speccing for 3 chambers (more range but lower level hex(damage) spells).

 

[Huntingtons]

iirc shaman shear is same range as druids but faster? :O

 

[Andrilyn]

iirc shaman shear is same range as druids but faster? :O

Nope has been changed, Druid shears got a range boost.

 

[Azathrim]

Animists have 2000 potential range on the FnF shrooms. Which seems often to be used to "push" the stand-off line.

 

[DrunkSkunk]

Alb is also lacking PBAE and AoE damage compared to the other realms.
Wish they gave Albs another PBAE class that has PBAE in a non gimped line which would make keep/tower defends alot easier.

necro got pbae line

 

[Corran]

necro got pbae line

yes, pbaoe with a slow cast time, with no ability to moc and with shit damage. And thats if you can even get the pet go stand on top of the people you want to pbaoe.

 

[Konstantin]

so you want running corpses and pbae ?(spelling)

 

[Puppet]

Nope has been changed, Druid shears got a range boost.

In 1.83, yep. Currently druids have 1500 range on em.

 

[Dafft]

technically, the Tics monster rez has a AoE spell when someone is rezzed!!!

 

[Gamah]

technically, the Tics monster rez has a AoE spell when someone is rezzed!!!

omg le tics! wizards are the best bolters in the game 2 bolts from a high rr wiz can kill ya if they crit (and your a caster )

 

[censi]

for me like range siege is pathetic. if someone like sets up a ballista (huge xbow)thing or like a fuck off huge catapult treb thing like if u get hit by that it should do like at least 50-90% of your hits.

I mean its a huge siege weapon, like u get hit by a treb and u get like hit for 50 damage or summin its like being stung by a bee. and imagine if that big xbow thing hit you it would tear u in half.

imo anyway.

 

[Azathrim]

Yeah, that would be "realistic" censi.

Ofcourse, we play in a fantasy game with magic, dragons and honorable albs.

As none of these things really excist, your point on "realism" really gets pointless.

 

[Konstantin]

for me like range siege is pathetic. if someone like sets up a ballista (huge xbow)thing or like a fuck off huge catapult treb thing like if u get hit by that it should do like at least 50-90% of your hits.

I mean its a huge siege weapon, like u get hit by a treb and u get like hit for 50 damage or summin its like being stung by a bee. and imagine if that big xbow thing hit you it would tear u in half.

imo anyway.

agree heave tanks maby should take less dmg but casters and sush should get alot mroe dmg then they do atm.

 

[Void959]

Haven't played WL extensively but my understanding was it could be primer'd to the 3k range? (Need a WL expert to be sure)

Thought the same.

 

[Flimgoblin]

you can have 3k+15% range nearsight on a warlock if you spec that way - more common to be 2500+%range or 2000+%range.

 

[Andrilyn]

for me like range siege is pathetic. if someone like sets up a ballista (huge xbow)thing or like a fuck off huge catapult treb thing like if u get hit by that it should do like at least 50-90% of your hits.

I mean its a huge siege weapon, like u get hit by a treb and u get like hit for 50 damage or summin its like being stung by a bee. and imagine if that big xbow thing hit you it would tear u in half.

imo anyway.

Yep let's give the healing classes even more RPs during sieges