RvR last night in Sauvage :)

[Cedig]

Just would like to thank all those helpful Albs who came and made RvR in Sauvage worthwhile. Although we had to fake a relic raid to get you to come and fight us.

Still was great fun to have a fight in such a wide open space, instead of all those canyons of emain

Thanks to the Hib crew for getting their goat inc

the GPK posse (Bfr, Fingolfin, Quirina, Daied, Barer, Gaian, Phool)

Tuorin
Trel (thanks for joining GPK so we could claim Beno)
Ver
Malv
And the other 8-10 names I've forgotten...

Hope you Albs didnt stay up all night guarding your relic, hehe we were only playing with you

 

[old.Aethelstan]

You timed it wrong - the main keep-related RvR of the night was taking place in Midgard, where Albion took Bledmeer, Nottmoore, Blendrake and Arvakr, defended Nottmoore successfully once, and Bledmeer succesfully twice (the first time was an absolute cracker, with the Mid zerg being wiped out on the stairs leading to the Lord's room. I walked down afterwards, and you couldn't see the steps at all for Mid bodies).

It was only after the second defence, at midnightish, that some of us returned from Midgard to retake our keeps.

Just a query - and not a flame - I've been involved now in many, many keep sieges, both defending and attacking, where either we go to Midgard or Hibernia, take a keep and defend it, or Hibs/Mids come to us, take a keep and defend it. Do you ever do it to each other ? I don't mean Dun Crauchon, which changes hands more rapidly than a spliff at a Bob Marley convention, or the occasional Hib warband which takes Bledmeer briefly just to get DF open, I mean, do you Hibs ever go take Arvakr and defend it, or Mids go take Scathaig and take their catapults with them ? As far as I can see, nearly all the major keep-takes/defences are Alb v Mid or Alb v Hib. This isn't an accusation of cross-teaming, just a question.

 

[old.Dimitris]

hehe yeah it was fun while it lasted, cuz when Albs woke up they brought their entire army at sauvage

conquering and defending beno is also a blast, we can make it our second home imo

can try this out at mid frontier, but mids r more organized than albs when it comes to keep attacking

 

[old.Aure]

I think as we have always had less population and how the game is designed, there's never a night when we haven't got at least 2 keeps belonging to the enemies, Mid or Albs.

So we generally, whatever we do are usually minus 2 keeps almost 24/7 every day.

Therefore we nearly always have to fight at home before we go abroad, whereas Alb keeps, like Renaris for example are like Pluto is to Earth for most Hibs.

I've been to Castle Sauvage twice, once last night and once the other night when Mids took 6 alb keeps. Not very good for RR 5 really, but that's mainly because of the domination and population setup on Pryd. We were always having to defend...

Now as we are evolving from less than a 40:1 lvl 50 ratio, we can do things we never really could. Taking Mid keeps in general means faster response. Taking Alb keeps, sometimes is pointless as there is little response. We took 5 keeps on Tues, saw 1 Alb at 1 and a few strays.

30+ Albs finally showed at Renaris, we never had 1 ram for 5 keeps and we fluctuated from between 8 and 14 people.

Last night, couple of strays and two or three brave Alb groups who tried Benowyc.

In general you get an almost immediate response from Mid and therefore that requires more involvement than a few ad hoc would be crafters going for materials.



However it was excellent RVR last night. Also afterwards at the AMG, but I lost server link and couldn't return, dunno if server went down or what.

 

[Jonaldo]

we take mid keeps more often than alb keeps

 

[lakih]

I was with the hib crew at Sauvage and had alot of fun.

As for the query, yes we do take mid keeps and defend them, but recently its been mostly albkeeps, mainly (imo) becuase mids have insane responstime. The reson i come to albion was becuase im usually crafting in Benowyc becuace DC is never safe, it switches ownership more often than i switch targets in rvr .

One thing that annoyes me tho is that albkeeps are harder to defend, i mean, its really hard (for me atleast with a mediumrange, 15 sec recast dd) to target ppl that runs up or down to the gate. Midkeeps are similiar but not as bad, but hib keeps are like an open field (on the battlements). Ofcourse its easier to get killed on the battlements in a hibkeep but its also easyer to target attackers.

 

[Freia]

Originally posted by old.Aethelstan
I mean, do you Hibs ever go take Arvakr and defend it, or Mids go take Scathaig and take their catapults with them ?

Do mids ever go and take keeps and just sit there and defend them? I know i never did it...
On being a good sport and show up and try to retake, I think it sucks to bash guardpops and lvl 10 doors and get the occational 30 rps when some alb is brave enuf to actually show himself on the battlements. Since we always show up in too small numbers and without rams, those "sieges" are more like alb rp farming sessions each time.

Oh and btw. AFAIK its illegal to stand on the roof and nuke (hi Rumble, u suck), its illegal cause you have to screenshot-jump to get there, am i wrong? Also i do not think there is any way to repair the outer door from inside without breaking the CoC so why has doors hp been known to move up instead of down at times? (Arvakr, night before yesterday. Anybody feel guilty?).

Those who keep coming back and sit in our keeps should be soo thankful to the few of us who actually show up and let you farm, you should come to yggdra gates and let us farm once in a while to return the favour.

Ok, whine mode off. I had to get it out. I'm so sick of feeding rp to keep-campers. I'm back to normal now. Honest.

 

[old.Aethelstan]

Originally posted by Freia


Do mids ever go and take keeps and just sit there and defend them? I know i never did it...

At least one of your guilds has recently made something of a tradition of taking and defending Renaris. You should try joining them - some good fights.

Originally posted by Freia
On being a good sport and show up and try to retake, I think it sucks to bash guardpops and lvl 10 doors and get the occational 30 rps when some alb is brave enuf to actually show himself on the battlements. Since we always show up in too small numbers and without rams, those "sieges" are more like alb rp farming sessions each time.

If we never show ourselves on the battlements, how do we ever manage to farm any RPs ? Anyway, I doubt anyone ever upgardes doors to level 10 - that's a lot of moolah. Level 6 is usually considered to be a top notch door for keep defences. And as for showing up in small numbers, I've sat in keeps with 30-40 Mids attacking on regular occasions, so I'm glad there's another group of Mids out there who take a different view.

Originally posted by Freia
Oh and btw. AFAIK its illegal to stand on the roof and nuke (hi Rumble, u suck), its illegal cause you have to screenshot-jump to get there, am i wrong?

You don't have to screenshot jump to get on the roof. This has been dealt with in other posts, and as I understand it, it's not an exploit.

Originally posted by Freia
Ok, whine mode off. I had to get it out. I'm so sick of feeding rp to keep-campers. I'm back to normal now. Honest.

"keep-campers" ? Is this to join the pejorative terms "PK campers", "milegate-campers" and "Yggrda-campers" ? Is there any fighting left we're allowed to do other than the mass Emain zerg ? Sorry you don't enjoy keep raids, mate. I think they're a lot omre fun than Emain-die-release-Emaon-die-release etc etc. But then, each to their own.

Anyway, back to the question. Hibs at Beno defending regularly. Mids at Renaris defending regularly. Albs in Bledmeer or Scathaig defending regularly. Where are the epic green v blue clashes ? Casters against tanks. We'll send some of our infils to sit on your roof and watch the outcome.

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by Freia
Oh and btw. AFAIK its illegal to stand on the roof and nuke (hi Rumble, u suck), its illegal cause you have to screenshot-jump to get there, am i wrong? Also i do not think there is any way to repair the outer door from inside without breaking the CoC so why has doors hp been known to move up instead of down at times? (Arvakr, night before yesterday. Anybody feel guilty?).

If you can nuke them, it's not an exploit. If you can't (and they can nuke you) then it is, report it. I've been nuked by mids on rooftops plenty of times.

 

[Jupitus]

Originally posted by old.Aethelstan


You don't have to screenshot jump to get on the roof. This has been dealt with in other posts, and as I understand it, it's not an exploit.

... just to clarify a little. It is posible to get onto the roof over the gates at most keeps with simply jumping normally (albeit in the right places), and this is fine, no exploit, no report. To my knowledge, though, it is NOT possible to reach the roof of the milegates or towers (in most cases) without some form of jump cheat, so if you do see players in these places grab a screenie and report via RightNow with all the details you can.... they'll check the logs and take action if abuse is found.

Jup.

 

[Freia]

Originally posted by old.Aethelstan
If we never show ourselves on the battlements, how do we ever manage to farm any RPs ?

PBaE spam, camp lord, stand on roof. Camp climbspots.
And I didnt say they never show themselfes.

Anyway, I doubt anyone ever upgardes doors to level 10 - that's a lot of moolah. Level 6 is usually considered to be a top notch door for keep defences.

It was a rough estimate ok?

And as for showing up in small numbers, I've sat in keeps with 30-40 Mids attacking on regular occasions, so I'm glad there's another group of Mids out there who take a different view.

I said "too" small. Which means, not enuf to wipe the defenders without running back a few times. And im speaking from personal experience.

You don't have to screenshot jump to get on the roof. This has been dealt with in other posts, and as I understand it, it's not an exploit.

When I asked a shadowblade to pleeeease go and kill Rumble on the roof he said he wouldnt do it because he would have to cheat. Thats all I know.
Wheres those other posts?

"keep-campers" ? Is this to join the pejorative terms "PK campers", "milegate-campers" and "Yggrda-campers" ? Is there any fighting left we're allowed to do other than the mass Emain zerg ? Sorry you don't enjoy keep raids, mate. I think they're a lot omre fun than Emain-die-release-Emaon-die-release etc etc. But then, each to their own.

You read the word keep-campers as you like to. We are allowed to fight any way we like, its our money that we pay to mythic. And I agree that its prolly better than emain but for the attacking side the last two nights it fits your description of emain very well, Except we have to run thru our frontier instead of take a horse to the portal keep before we do the die-release part.

 

[old.tuppe]

personally has been 2 evenings row taking back our keeps, thanks to Svartalf open mouth.
so far only alb/hibs have this pbaoe what opens them easy and powerfull lord room defense, and look like they use it very good results.
mids dont have nothing against this, whine?!!
so we call it just only rp farming.
dunno is there any other way or change in this game? 4-8 chars kill 30+ middies who are still mostly close/or 50.

well, waiting next patch, what give some tools against this, and same weapons for us, dunno how many sm have this line?

 

[LunarDarkShadow]

Ok , casters on roof tops......

In my experience, its quite possible to get on to the rooftops of those little hut things on the Hib keep walls without cheating if you know where to jump from

In my experience, it's dead easy to get on to the roof top over the gate on Mid keeps without cheating, if you know where to jump from

In my experience, its impossible to get anywhere higher than the tops of the battlements themselves on Alb keeps, without cheating.

In my experience its quite possible to get hit on the roof of Mid and Hib keeps if they know where to target you from. I have never been on an Alb keep roof, so I couldnt tell you if you can get hit there.

So.... its not cheating on Hib and Mid keeps, but it is cheating on Alb keeps, as far as I am aware.

K?

 

[Freia]

Originally posted by LunarDarkShadow
So.... its not cheating on Hib and Mid keeps, but it is cheating on Alb keeps, as far as I am aware.

K?

K! Thanx. Then i gotta smack Blejsarus for not taking out that annoying caster on the roof yesterday.

 

[Blood]

Originally posted by Freia
Oh and btw. AFAIK its illegal to stand on the roof and nuke (hi Rumble, u suck), its illegal cause you have to screenshot-jump to get there, am i wrong? Also i do not think there is any way to repair the outer door from inside without breaking the CoC so why has doors hp been known to move up instead of down at times? (Arvakr, night before yesterday. Anybody feel guilty?).

Some middie keeps (like bledmeer) it is possible to get onto the roof without screenshot jumping.. (using just normal jumping)... but Arvakr is NOT one of those.. the ONLY way to get onto the roof of the Arvakr gate is screenshot jumping.. which Rumble must have done. (i was there too, and she went up and down many times

 

[Rumble]

Just seeing my name mentioned and thought I better defend myself. I never screenshot jump, its an exploit and I cant abide people that exploit games.

For those in the know it’s rather simple to get onto Mid roofs but I can’t understand your issues with the Bled defense. 6 odd Albs (1 cleric, 1 minstrel, 2 casters, 1 scout and another that escapes me) holding as best they can for as long as we did was an achievement in itself. Facing a full group of Mids with at least 3 stealthers and not dying until your reinforcements arrived was fun whilst it lasted.

As for Arvakr I think you are mistaken Blood because the mass of people that are up on that roof don’t screenshot jump either so by accusing me you are accusing any other Albion that stands up there.

Sorry if I suck Freia but its not easy playing a fully specced Briton Earth wizzy and any little advantage helps, god knows what shit im going to have to put up with when GTAoE comes into effect.

Probably get more BW threads from uninformed muppets moaning about my supposed cheating

Anyway im glad I proved to be a thorn in your side, hope to annoy you soon and a big thank you for actually being there to retake the keep. Retakes would be pretty boring without some sort of challenge wouldn't you say? Or maybe you prefer the monotony of killing NPC guards.

 

[Aurilius]

Originally posted by Freia

Oh and btw. AFAIK its illegal to stand on the roof and nuke (hi Rumble, u suck), its illegal cause you have to screenshot-jump to get there, am i wrong? Also i do not think there is any way to repair the outer door from inside without breaking the CoC so why has doors hp been known to move up instead of down at times? (Arvakr, night before yesterday. Anybody feel guilty?).

http://www.camelot-europe.com/news/newsarticle.php3?id_article=343

Screenshot-jumping :

There is a very special exploit of bug going on lately ; the screenshot-jump bug. As usual, this is used to get an advantage over other players, mainly in RvR. Such bug exploit has been, is and will be severely sanctioned by our teams. If you want to jump, just press your jump key. "Screenshot-jumping" is a bug exploit, don't play with fire, it could cost you your account…

 

[Jaas Mallai]

You can jump onto that roof without screenshot jumping.

Rumble is a wizard with enough tools in his armoury to not to have to exploit a bug.

Lose graciously, it makes victory sweeter next time.

See you on the battlefield

Jaas