RvR active population graph

[Danya]

A graph of flim's numbers from the stickied topic, I also included the latest numbers off camelot-seer.

The large spike at week 11 is the release of NF.

 

[Filip]

would have been easyere to read if you gave each realm a line for the self...

 

[Aussie]

X = Number of whores
Y = Cost in €

?

 

[Danya]

would have been easyere to read if you gave each realm a line for the self...

Hmm, maybe though the graph above also shows total pop.
Anyway:

 

[Pohjan Poika]

think the pop of mids and hibs will drop further until they patch to 1.71

 

[Aussie]

think the pop of mids and hibs will drop further until they patch to 1.71

awww can't live without relics, QQ

 

[Gibbo]

think the pop of mids and hibs will drop further until they patch to 1.71

lol, so when it become easier for you all again?

 

[Divinia]

awww can't live without relics, QQ

Relic changes are the only thing in 1.71 patch.

 

[Danya]

Well mid and alb are still well above pre-NF levels. Hibs are at about the normal level for pre-NF now which is why hibs are feeling somewhat more outnumbered than usual.

 

[Flimgoblin]

just to confirm this is the 1k+ stats?

I'll post another grab of the pop on the sticky tomorrow if I remember.

 

[AngelHeal]

I don't get it, you hibs were allways in a disadvantage, but never whined about it (class).

But now the game is played by albion they way it's "designed" to play, you lads start to freek out like mad little children.

and it's not all about range.
If tanks charge and get good backup, there IS NO RANGE.
Yet most of the times tanks stand back and watch......
There are enough tanks in the game, and if not re-roll ur ranger/hutner/scout for 1



anyway wish u guy's gl with it, i'll think it'll be allright though

 

[Danya]

just to confirm this is the 1k+ stats?

I'll post another grab of the pop on the sticky tomorrow if I remember.

Yes it is the 1k+ stats. It covers the bulk of RvRing people, even if they just wandered out to a keep and shot siege for half an hour.

 

[Danya]

I don't get it, you hibs were allways in a disadvantage, but never whined about it (class).

But now the game is played by albion they way it's "designed" to play, you lads start to freek out like mad little children.

and it's not all about range.
If tanks charge and get good backup, there IS NO RANGE.
Yet most of the times tanks stand back and watch......
There are enough tanks in the game, and if not re-roll ur ranger/hutner/scout for 1

It's not about range so much as numbers. Prior to NF it was much more about group composition and abilities of people in said groups. Now it's about who has the biggest zerg, and thus hib is in a bad position.

 

[Matmardigan]

X = Number of whores
Y = Cost in €

?

lol

 

[Boni]

I don't get it, you hibs were allways in a disadvantage, but never whined about it (class).

Have you checked the graphs?

I like/enjoy being the underdog, but with albion having 600 more players, its not just being disadvataged, its downright unfair. Hib groups used to play this game because with even a 200 population disadvantage, superior equipment, coordiantion and skills made it a fun/evenish fight.

Who gives a fuck about tanks or range, its all in the numbers, simple as that.

 

[Antedeluvian]

Have you checked the graphs?
Hib groups used to play this game because with even a 200 population disadvantage, superior equipment, coordiantion and skills made it a fun/evenish fight.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH <breath> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I always forget that pushing a different icon on select-realm screen makes you smarter, more dedicated and assure you better equipement (weird being the same stuff in all realms) and coordination. :kissit:

 

[Danya]

Equipment is not the same in all realms (well artifacts and toa stuff is, but SI and old world equipment had some wide disparities). Also hib and mid class balance in a FG setting tended to offset the population difference (especially given some of the hairbrained groups albs tried).

 

[vintervargen]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH <breath> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I always forget that pushing a different icon on select-realm screen makes you smarter, more dedicated and assure you better equipement (weird being the same stuff in all realms) and coordination. :kissit:

no, but going in a fg will get you more skills then zerging to amg with the rest of the realm.

 

[Huntingtons]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH <breath> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I always forget that pushing a different icon on select-realm screen makes you smarter, more dedicated and assure you better equipement (weird being the same stuff in all realms) and coordination. :kissit:

wonder why i see so many albs in epic/rogs all the time then ;o
The random hib grp vs the random alb grp it usually the hib grp who does the alb grp in. Because of those 3 factors...

 

[Antedeluvian]

wonder why i see so many albs in epic/rogs all the time then ;o
The random hib grp vs the random alb grp it usually the hib grp who does the alb grp in. Because of those 3 factors...

Mmmmm, and maybe, just maybe, is because the hib group have better classes?









Nahhhhhhhh is just skill.

 

[Antedeluvian]

no, but going in a fg will get you more skills then zerging to amg with the rest of the realm.

And playing hard classes will get you more skills then play overpowered ones like the hibs ones, and not, the fact you were RP pled doesnt give you skills, could be funny to see you playing a cleric in equal field instead a druid in example. I wonder why no hib group tried seriously alb in prydwen, in fact the ones who did gave up in 2 weeks, even being the prydwen albs the "oh-so-great" players compared to exc albs.....

 

[Veg]

You have to take into consideration that although us Albs have more players than any other realm we also have alot more buffbots than any other realm, meaning the numbers are a little less worse than what the graph will show.

 

[Solarius]

And playing hard classes will get you more skills then play overpowered ones like the hibs ones, and not, the fact you were RP pled doesnt give you skills, could be funny to see you playing a cleric in equal field instead a druid in example. I wonder why no hib group tried seriously alb in prydwen, in fact the ones who did gave up in 2 weeks, even being the prydwen albs the "oh-so-great" players compared to exc albs.....

Nice to see the "alb weak/watered down, Hib overpowered" mantra hasn't lost it's following

Weak classes like Scouts, Sorcerers, Infiltrators, Minstrels, Paladins, Wizards (low utility, yes - but not weak!)

Overpowerd classes like Wardens, Champions, Nightshades, Mentalists.. yeah, we get the picture!

I'm almost surprised there hasn't been a Nerf Animists cry yet.

Here's an eye opener for you. All realms have their share of strong classes and classes that could use some help. And with some of the "weak" Albion classes, they are weak in one respect because of a strength elsewhere. Paladins are weak in offense because no class can compare defensively to one. Wizards lack utility compared to Elds because of higher delve spells. (against RMs it's different, there's 4 classec Alb mages compared to 2 classic Mid ones, bad planning really to cram 3-4 class specs into 2 classes!) Would you willingly play a Paladin with higher offensive power, at a cost of defensive strength? Though not, most players simply want the best of both.

 

[Ilienwyn]

Random bard: Feck, I was late in buffing. Just press the GP button Mr. Druid
Randoom Druid: Ok, coming in. Oh, wtf, we no longer have GP. $%^ Mythic and $^&£ GOA.
Random gimp in group: £%^ no GP? Let's go whine in FH about population differences and then quit all together. But don't let anyone understand that we can't win CC without instants or GP to save us!
Another random gimp in group: Oh, yeah! Let's do that! Let's blame albs for zerging! Oh wait, haven't we said so many times that we can beat their zergs due to our amazing 1337 skills? Would they fall for it?
Rest of group: Oh yeah, albs are stupid too you know...


<after trying to convince everyone in FH and failing:>
Random gimp: Hmm, doesn't seem we persuade them after all.
Other random gimp: Yeah, now what?
Third gimp: Well, let's just say we leave due to WoW.
Everyone agrees that sounds good

....<continued next week, same day same time!>

Ok, just flame me now

































PS: Damn, I can be creative when bored!

 

[Solarius]

The only issue with the loss of GP is this:

What CC does the primary CC class of Albion have? AoE & ST Mez, AoE & ST Root.
What CC does the secondary CC class of Albion have? AoE & ST Mez and ST Stun
What CC does the primary CC class of Midgard have? AoE & ST Mez, AoE & ST Stun, ST Root
What CC does the secondary CC class of Midgard have? AoE & ST Mez, ST Root.
What CC does the primary class of Hibernia have? AoE & ST Mez.
What CC does the secondary CC class of Hibernia have? ST Mez and ST Stun.

Bit of a disparity there, even you have to agree. Hib have less CC on BOTH primary and secondary CC classes than Mids do on their Primary alone, and are probably comparable together to the primary Alb CCer.

 

[Zexxeh]

Antedeluvian what game u play ?
ill open your eyes a bit. NF is a caster game if u didnt noticed yet they get the rps cause stay behind zerg and leech... Who got best casters in game?
May I say : -Sorc: overpowered mezz (2100 range) , win button(moc) , pet.
-Cabalist: overpowered pet, win button(moc), debuff abusive.
-Theurgist: Overpowered cast pets , abusive nukes, mezz , root.

I think its enough to say I can say even more but its enough. U must add to these facts the legendary albion zerg .

 

[Danya]

You have to take into consideration that although us Albs have more players than any other realm we also have alot more buffbots than any other realm, meaning the numbers are a little less worse than what the graph will show.

Graph is for chars with 1k+ RP earned in the previous week, so generally excludes buffbots as they don't make RP. The graph shows the number of people out in RvR, and it's just as bad as it looks. Also I doubt buffbot usage is particularly higher in any one realm TBH.

 

[Aussie]

Graph is for chars with 1k+ RP earned in the previous week, so generally excludes buffbots as they don't make RP. The graph shows the number of people out in RvR, and it's just as bad as it looks. Also I doubt buffbot usage is particularly higher in any one realm TBH.

my bb got 2k rps for defending the keep !

 

[Boni]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH <breath> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I always forget that pushing a different icon on select-realm screen makes you smarter, more dedicated and assure you better equipement (weird being the same stuff in all realms) and coordination. :kissit:

No, but it does guarantee you the ability to read peoples post and not misquote them, stay of the laughing gas imo, its not helping you.

 

[Jpeg[LOD]]

Antedeluvian what game u play ?
ill open your eyes a bit. NF is a caster game if u didnt noticed yet they get the rps cause stay behind zerg and leech... Who got best casters in game?
May I say : -Sorc: overpowered mezz (2100 range) , win button(moc) , pet.
-Cabalist: overpowered pet, win button(moc), debuff abusive.
-Theurgist: Overpowered cast pets , abusive nukes, mezz , root.

I think its enough to say I can say even more but its enough. U must add to these facts the legendary albion zerg .

Chanter /QC stun pbae pbae pbae dead.... win button? iirc ALL casters get MOC right? so stop as if your trying to make out only alb casters get it. chanter pets can do more stuff than sorc pets also . snare/heal/crack etc

Sm yea they are easy to kill. nice dmge pbae or nukes. a PET that seems to give 100% intercept . making it virtually impossible for me to hit cos pets blocks it.

BD .. not even gonna go there cos we all know how insanley overpowered they are with there insta and healing pets.

OP'd therg pets ? would they be the ones that die in 1pbae? and hit REALLY slow.
cabby pets not so different from chanter/sm pets apart from sm/chanter pets IMO are better.
theurg mezz is a joke .
abusive nukes? lol "if cabby debuufed then yea"
debuff abuse? lol i have been debuffed by hib casters for as long as i can rememeber.. and also from mid casters.


and IMO the game ISNT all about range.... sure if u wanna take keeps/towers all day then yea range>> melee but it aint. roam around a bit and its same as old emain apart from new ra's with open battles. and with cheap purge and low timer MEZZ ISNT the "i win" that it used to be IMO.

at keep raids numbers will win (unless mid/hib have marginally less) then albs will get pwnd. but in open battles of even numbers mid/hib still have the upper hand imo