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[Lorfo]

Just goes to show you dont have a fucking clue about warlocks. ONLY insta range dot "IF" loaded into a chamber, "IF" the dot is pre loaded with a bolt, "IF" the warlock is a 3 chamber spec, and the range primer isnt loadable in a chamber, same as you cant chamber modifiers such as powerless and uniteruptable. So theres no Insta range dot on insane range. Please learn about warlocks instead of listening to the clueless retards on FH before you post anymore. And sick of repeating myself, you all whine about well a warlock can kill this solo blah blah.... that solo blah blah..... and the other solo...... WARLOCK IS A FRONTLOADING CLASS - SOLO AT YOUR OWN RISK, dont fuck your PA and CD combo up and come crying here, cause the warlock has purge 2 or better.

So if albs got a class that had a instant dd 5 min reuse that made 20000 dmg you would just say 'solo at your own risk' coz it's a 'frontload' class ?
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
go buy some clues fucking retarded piece of shit noob. Warlocks ruins RvR completely for soloers , but you can still kill some of them coz you can CAST 3 spels before they can release their instantspell ( they are so fat irl so it takes 5 seconds to reach the button on the keyboard).
regards lorfo

 

[Aurores]

Just goes to show you dont have a fucking clue about warlocks. ONLY insta range dot "IF" loaded into a chamber, "IF" the dot is pre loaded with a bolt, "IF" the warlock is a 3 chamber spec, and the range primer isnt loadable in a chamber, same as you cant chamber modifiers such as powerless and uniteruptable. So theres no Insta range dot on insane range. Please learn about warlocks instead of listening to the clueless retards on FH before you post anymore. And sick of repeating myself, you all whine about well a warlock can kill this solo blah blah.... that solo blah blah..... and the other solo...... WARLOCK IS A FRONTLOADING CLASS - SOLO AT YOUR OWN RISK, dont fuck your PA and CD combo up and come crying here, cause the warlock has purge 2 or better.

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[Lorfo]

WARLOCK IS A FRONTLOADING CLASS - SOLO AT YOUR OWN RISK

Frontload class with uninterruptable/powerless , pbaoe , nearsight , spreadheal , dots ,bolts , lifetap ??????????
AND BANELORD
Sounds like an utility class+ frontload class. >.< sounds balanced

 

[Namefake]

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mage damage is very high, but its compensated by high value resistbuffs and insane amount of interrupts available everywhere. warlock doesn't have this problem, the entire class relies on insta's or uninterruptible spells in rvr. once they ran out of chambers and power, they're worthless

like, 70-80% of the skill involves in playing a mage is avoiding interrupts, position themself right so they dont get interrupted, etc. a mage that knows how to play makes a world of difference from a crap one

put a crappy player on a warlock however, and they'll still be able to kill stuff, because the only 'skill' involved in playing a wl is pressing insta's, ui's and targetting fast. the class design is just wrong. highest damage AND they dont have the interrupt problem

i like the balance between melee and magic atm, but classes like bd's (insta debuff/lifetap), bainshee (uninterruptible spells) and warlock chamber/ui's disrupt that majorly. not even banelord is as bad as those spells.

stun in some situations is overpowered, agree with that, but in 8v8 where people have resistbuffs it isnt really that much of a problem. its naive and stupid to asume that all hib mages stun before nuking anything in any situation, but i guess with your extensive rvr experience you would know better than everyone else

and this comes after playing an eld for ages, a bl champ for a while now, and i also tried warlocks some (/beg garb ).

I agree that warlocks are OP killing 1 target fast, maybe 2, even harder after the nerf, it's not a balanced 1 vs 1 class, but they sux in 8 vs 8 grps. The class requires skill, (even though all fucked up albs/hibs and some mids say that they dont got), to play, SOMETIMES, often not, but imo it doesn't take much more skill to play a sorc. A target with ~30% matter resist, a caster that is, i do 210 + 420 dmg on.. if they don't resist as they usually do, 210 + 420 * 2 = 1260 damage, add a uninteruptable lifetap on that guy and you got 70% power and 0 chambers up.

Classes that should have no problem with warlocks.

Eldritches, with nearsight, stun, etc.
Necromancers
Most tanks
Some fire wizards
Cabalists
and banshees

Banshees also got a higher delving spell, their ae bolt delving 291
Wizards delving 331
Warlocks lifedrain delving 255 and gonna be nerfed, so you can't say their lifedrain does the most damage.

IMO lets wait and see til after the nerf with all warlock whine. I think it can be pretty balanced.

 

[Eeben]

I agree that warlocks are OP killing 1 target fast, maybe 2, even harder after the nerf, it's not a balanced 1 vs 1 class, but they sux in 8 vs 8 grps. The class requires skill, (even though all fucked up albs/hibs and some mids say that they dont got), to play, SOMETIMES, often not, but imo it doesn't take much more skill to play a sorc. A target with ~30% matter resist, a caster that is, i do 210 + 420 dmg on.. if they don't resist as they usually do, 210 + 420 * 2 = 1260 damage, add a uninteruptable lifetap on that guy and you got 70% power and 0 chambers up.

Classes that should have no problem with warlocks.

Eldritches, with nearsight, stun, etc.
Necromancers
Most tanks
Some fire wizards
Cabalists
and banshees

Banshees also got a higher delving spell, their ae bolt delving 291
Wizards delving 331
Warlocks lifedrain delving 255 and gonna be nerfed, so you can't say their lifedrain does the most damage.

IMO lets wait and see til after the nerf with all warlock whine. I think it can be pretty balanced.

can most tanks kill a warlock? how?
how the fuck can a necro kill a warlock?

 

[Dorin]

IMO lets wait and see til after the nerf with all warlock whine. I think it can be pretty balanced.

no sorry, the concept of insta / uninterruptable nuking class wont ever be balanced.


At least while the other 1x+ casting classes can get interrupted

 

[Lorfo]

Eldritches, with nearsight, stun, etc.
Necromancers
Most tanks
Some fire wizards
Cabalists
and banshees

necromancers _maybe_
'most tanks' that's just bullshit , they cant make enough dmg maybe zerks would stand a chance with vendo+banespike
fire wizards can have a chance if they get off 2 bolts before the warlocks releases his chamber (i.e warlock have to suck )
cabalists?? okok .. send pet range = 1000 or so , and proper spec = grey nearsight so warlocks can just run in and release chamber and instantkill the caba.
bainshees.. are you kidding ? how the fuck would they have a chance??
even if they gimp themselves and spec for the ranged aoebolt it still wont kill the warlock . they have to cast their nukes while a chamber will interrupt+ maybe kill the bainshee.
eldritch might have a chance tho , unless if warlocks get off their ns up.
And if warlocks have purge2 up lightelds are chanceless.

 

[Namefake]

?
read my fucking post and try to get the point into your head, what the fuck is the point trying to compare a rog warlock to a maxed out minstrel?

none?

thats my point retardo, go back to your keep and masturbate while reloading chambers.

there is no point in your post, just pure whine.
i would like to tell you to go masturbate yourself, but your e-peen is to small.

 

[Mas]

So if albs got a class that had a instant dd 5 min reuse that made 20000 dmg you would just say 'solo at your own risk' coz it's a 'frontload' class ?
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
go buy some clues fucking retarded piece of shit noob. Warlocks ruins RvR completely for soloers , but you can still kill some of them coz you can CAST 3 spels before they can release their instantspell ( they are so fat irl so it takes 5 seconds to reach the button on the keyboard).
regards lorfo

Nice post, i see your anger, ill look for you and the AD cronies and have my spam macros at the ready too. Mid has a competing class and the albs dont like it, awww the guilt makes me wanna delete really badly.

 

[katt!]

I agree that warlocks are OP killing 1 target fast, maybe 2, even harder after the nerf, it's not a balanced 1 vs 1 class, but they sux in 8 vs 8 grps. The class requires skill, (even though all fucked up albs/hibs and some mids say that they dont got), to play, SOMETIMES, often not, but imo it doesn't take much more skill to play a sorc. A target with ~30% matter resist, a caster that is, i do 210 + 420 dmg on.. if they don't resist as they usually do, 210 + 420 * 2 = 1260 damage, add a uninteruptable lifetap on that guy and you got 70% power and 0 chambers up.

Classes that should have no problem with warlocks.

Eldritches, with nearsight, stun, etc.
Necromancers
Most tanks
Some fire wizards
Cabalists
and banshees

Banshees also got a higher delving spell, their ae bolt delving 291
Wizards delving 331
Warlocks lifedrain delving 255 and gonna be nerfed, so you can't say their lifedrain does the most damage.

IMO lets wait and see til after the nerf with all warlock whine. I think it can be pretty balanced.

where is the skill in killing something with 100% insta/uninteruptable spells?

even if they got nerfed into oblivion, they would still be a skillless class.

 

[Namefake]

can most tanks kill a warlock? how?
how the fuck can a necro kill a warlock?

necro with matter resist + uninteruptable lifetaps = dead warlock.

 

[Eeben]

Nice post, i see your anger, ill look for you and the AD cronies and have my spam macros at the ready too. Mid has a competing class and the albs dont like it, awww the guilt makes me wanna delete really badly.

if you delete you will just be a random noob getting pwnt all the time

 

[Mas]

can most tanks kill a warlock? how?
how the fuck can a necro kill a warlock?

Most tanks cant kill casters 1 on 1, unless the caster sucks, toa gave them too much dmg and casting speed. Sorc Vs Warrior = Sorc the winner every time.

 

[Eeben]

necro with matter resist + uninteruptable lifetaps = dead warlock.

how many hps does a lvl 46 necro pet have? an before uninteruptable lifetap works the pet have to be close to the warlock ..

 

[katt!]

Nice post, i see your anger, ill look for you and the AD cronies and have my spam macros at the ready too. Mid has a competing class and the albs dont like it, awww the guilt makes me wanna delete really badly.

competing?

its a useless class for fg vs fg, its the whole concept of 100% instas & instakilling thats retarded - it requires absolutely no skill and even retards like you can harvest the rps by pressing a button without worrying about interupts.

 

[Namefake]

how many hps does a lvl 46 necro pet have? an before uninteruptable lifetap works the pet have to be close to the warloc ..

i don't know, but i've met 2 necros, 1 at a bridge, i got pwnd kinda easy
and 1 in open field, and that pet took most of my damage quite easy before he reached me and i had to flee.

 

[rure]

Mid has a competing class and the albs dont like it, awww the guilt makes me wanna delete really badly.

It's about time midguard gets a decent caster, dont you think?!

 

[Calo]

Kinda funny that the retarded modernagrave people can actually kill stuffs with their warlocks. And then got the stomach to actually DEFEND the class.
When it's the class that's op not the players that are skilled
I'd really like to see all the warlocks play some 'real' character in a proper fg.... or wait why would I
We all know that everyone who plays a warlock active and run around with zerg and leech are retarded irl and cant do anything but release chambers and get some rps.
They should send everyone who plays a warlock to an abandoned island and line them up and then shoot them one by one with a shotgun.
Regards Lorfo

lol everytime u pop u in a thread u just show everybody how fucking dumb and retarted u actually are.

I tried a warlock to see what it was, till lvl 44, so they should send me to an abonded island and shoot me?

"ok"

yes warlocks are OP, shooting ppl because they try it is just plain stupid.

 

[Rulke]

necro with matter resist + uninteruptable lifetaps = dead warlock.

Um the lifetaps are interuptable, you mean the melee cast ones? they do f*ck all.
2 chambers would kill the pet, last one or staff kill for the necro
btw do resist buffs affect necro pets? and what class gets matter resist in alb? and how would a solo necro get this?

how do most tanks survive? even if you IP and live through the 3 chambers you still have to face uninteruptable-highest-delve-in-the-game lifetaps

I dont have anything against warlocks ( i dont even play daoc any more ) but ppl who think it involves any sort of skill or that the class is remotely balanced in 1vs1s is ... well a bit thick really

 

[Lorfo]

Most tanks cant kill casters 1 on 1, unless the caster sucks, toa gave them too much dmg and casting speed. Sorc Vs Warrior = Sorc the winner every time.

so how does a 'normal' caster kill a chargetank ? caster can get off 1-2 nukes before the chargetank reaches him and he can just run through quickcast. meyhap moc+lifetap can win

Nice post, i see your anger, ill look for you and the AD cronies and have my spam macros at the ready too. Mid has a competing class and the albs dont like it, awww the guilt makes me wanna delete really badly.

'competing class' isn't what I would call it , the class is a joke , more utility then any other class + best frontload . I'm glad 90% of midgard is retarded irl and cant play this class well ( using utility in fg) instead they just run around in packs of 8 warlocks~~ and add on stuff. I play for fg rvr tho and I can find fights without you interfering.
We just show our dedicated hate for this retarded class and everyone who plays it.
And sure show me when you kill AD, make sure you have all those 30 friends of yours in the screenshot/vid and m8 plz show us some moderna skills also
so we know you are fast to roll the next fotmclass in mythics lovechild realm ;-)
regards lorfo

 

[katt!]

lol everytime u pop u in a thread u just show everybody how fucking dumb and retarted u actually are.

I tried a warlock to see what it was, till lvl 44, so they should send me to an abonded island and shoot me?

"ok"

yes warlocks are OP, shooting ppl because they try it is just plain stupid.

i would be happy with the ones actually playing them more than 30min being shot, deal?

 

[Vodkafairy]

I agree that warlocks are OP killing 1 target fast, maybe 2, even harder after the nerf, it's not a balanced 1 vs 1 class

ty for proving my point. warlocks that get rps so fast solo and leech/add/instakill 1-2 people before they fuck off and reload their chambers think they actually achieve something, which makes me sick.

, but they sux in 8 vs 8 grps. The class requires skill, (even though all fucked up albs/hibs and some mids say that they dont got), to play, SOMETIMES, often not, but imo it doesn't take much more skill to play a sorc.

wish there was a nice way to say this, but there isn't, thats just a really clueless argument. as i stated in my other post, biggest part of skill in playing a mage is positioning and avoiding interrupts, where a warlock just doesn't have this problem. they instakill stuff and hide until they can repeat.

i agree in 8v8 warlocks aren't really good, but that doesn't make them ANY less overpowered in the solo situation, which is what makes people so frustrated. shaman is very overpowered in 8v8 situations, but solo they're worth fuck all. nightshades with remedy are very overpowered in 1v1 assassin situations, but in 8v8 situations they're worth fuck all

get my point? not all classes are meant for all situations, and warlocks are incredibly sickening in small scale rvr

A target with ~30% matter resist, a caster that is, i do 210 + 420 dmg on.. if they don't resist as they usually do, 210 + 420 * 2 = 1260 damage, add a uninteruptable lifetap on that guy and you got 70% power and 0 chambers up.

then your template sucks big time. thing about warlocks is the high damage spell is actually a lifetap, which means they get an additional damage bonus next to the high delve. any warlock with maxed damage stats and semidecent rr for basic ra's will do roughly 650-700 damage with their lifetap noncrit, on 26% matter resist which not many people have

and they can cast two of them, combined with halfdecent curse dd combined in chamber, combined with 3-5 ui lifetaps depending on gear - easily 4k damage before they are oop. and then they can use mcl/rp/tartaros/pots/sash whatever - a warlock without power is useless but the things they can do while they have power are way, way out of line

Classes that should have no problem with warlocks.

Eldritches, with nearsight, stun, etc.

its a bit tricky really, if i can nearsight before he comes in chamber range and he has no purge then they are dead. but if they have red cold resist i cant even kill them before stun duration (~5 sec) is over, unless i get perfect crits on every hit, and trust me my ra's/template are not the problem here. im dead before i can quickcast anyways, so unless i catch warlock out of range (rare with these fucking hills all over) im dead

Necromancers

yeah because a necro can do what against a warlock exactely? you even mentioning a necro here makes you look like a fool, think for one second and realise it yourself /shrug

Most tanks

like who? you can kill most before they're even in melee range unless they have very high matter resist aswell as resistbuff, in which case you just have to use a little more power to actually kill them. you can use the unbreakable snare aswell while you kite it to use mcl + pot and unleash another world of overpowered bs on it

Some fire wizards

depends on jump really, wiz bolts are lethal as fuck but if they dont kill you with bolts alone you can insta lifetap yourself back to full hp in notime

Cabalists

depends on a lot of things, ml9, which nearsight level, if the warlock is smart to open with rangeprimer or not, etc

and banshees

k, shows you're clueless again, a caster without nearsight or stun and no longrange spells except in gimp line. bainshee of all hib mages should be the single easiest one for you to kill.

before you mention it: the nearsight isn't in main line, and its focus - meaning they cant move, cast any other spell, or even fart, in any way, or it breaks. and the aebolt is in gimp line and one low delve bolt isnt going to kill anything. thats next to the fact in its current form its completely broken so it does nothing whatsoever

Banshees also got a higher delving spell, their ae bolt delving 291

its in gimp specline that nobody goes. also, comparing bolts to dd is just stupid. its like comparing a root to mezz, its both cc, but something completely different. bolts are supposed to be very high delve but they have a recast timer of 20 secs, so they can't be spammed like warlock lifetap can be.

Wizards delving 331

same thing, you can't compare bolts to dd, its stupid. also - since its an actual lifetap - they get damage bonus. it taps 60% to the caster, meaning ingame the spell will be cast as if it has a 255 * 1.06 = 270 delve.

to compare: the highest delve dd after wl's lifetap is animist bomber, on 3s cast spd, with 225 delve. quite a big difference isn't it?

IMO lets wait and see til after the nerf with all warlock whine. I think it can be pretty balanced.

i don't think it will be really balanced unless the class gets some serious changes. as soon as a warlock won't be able to instakill atleast one target with all their insta toys (power), the class will be more worthless than a valkyrie. but instakilling is retarded aswell. maybe lowering cast speed on curse spells at higher specs would be a good thing for the class, i dunno.. i dont see an easy solution for the class

no offence really but you should get a clue about general game mechanics and classes, it saves me a lot of typing.

thx.

 

[Lorfo]

i would be happy with the ones actually playing them more than 30min being shot, deal?

Dont forget about the torture first meight , then shoot em ofc !

 

[Belomar]

I dedicate this special cartoon to you, Namefake:

 

[Mas]

so how does a 'normal' caster kill a chargetank ? caster can get off 1-2 nukes before the chargetank reaches him and he can just run through quickcast. meyhap moc+lifetap can win


'competing class' isn't what I would call it , the class is a joke , more utility then any other class + best frontload . I'm glad 90% of midgard is retarded irl and cant play this class well ( using utility in fg) instead they just run around in packs of 8 warlocks~~ and add on stuff. I play for fg rvr tho and I can find fights without you interfering.
We just show our dedicated hate for this retarded class and everyone who plays it.
And sure show me when you kill AD, make sure you have all those 30 friends of yours in the screenshot/vid and m8 plz show us some moderna skills also
so we know you are fast to roll the next fotmclass in mythics lovechild realm ;-)
regards lorfo

1) I dont go to moderngrav

2) I dont add/leech

3) Dont talk fotm when you run around in AD fotm grps zerging soloers

4) Talking of adds, dont forget to include, infs, ns, scouts, sorcs, wizzys, chanters... Add more chars as you see fit.

5) And if im strolling through and see AD killing mids/albs do i just sit, so if AD win they zerg me ?

6)

so we know you are fast to roll the next fotmclass in mythics lovechild realm ;-)

We as in alb, like those rog sorcs mid/hibs have seen increase 10 fold ?
and lovechild realm, now you talking outta youre arse, start another thread for that if you want and see the flames you get. Or perhaps another AD flame thread isnt exactly what you want.

 

[Mas]

I dedicate this special cartoon to you, Namefake:

LOL

 

[Flimgoblin]

think this thread's gone quite far enough.