Runemaster - Eldritch - wizard

[cantho]

Asking myself a little question.
Which is the biggest damage dealing class ? I am purely speaking Damage done (Not additional things like debuffs, mezz, stun or nearsights)

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[old.neenee]

id say rm.

tho many other ppl would say wiz.

a damage dealing eld?

 

[old.Saborion]

Depends on if you`re talking overall damage, short dds or bolts?

 

[cantho]

Damage

Simply:

who gets a yellow con the fastest down ?

 

[Cronn]

Impossible to say due to damage being a bit of a all over the place. Then there are critical hits to account for.

But anyway, a fully fire specced Wiz does most damage.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Fire spec wizard wins for damage done.

(spec line bolt, base line bolt, spec line DD)

Voidritches and Runecarvers have nice bolts but are stuck with naff DD's.

They more than make up for it in utility

(in particular the way way way overpowered nearsight)

 

[old.Ozwin]

I play a fire wiz and runey in bg1 and for pure damage fire wiz does a little more however ive found runey far more use with grp bladeturn and nearsight

 

[Flimgoblin]

Versatility is good...

Wizards are nice if it wasn't for nearsight it might not feel quite so bad that the enemy get wacky things like runspeed n blade turn.

 

[Eblessair]

one shotted a lvl50 wizard with a lvl 50 eld
then again, ive been one shotted by a rm on that same eld
imo, elds are
because of stun, and their bolts

 

[old.Valerik]

dont know if they done something to elds void spec

but i'm certainly doing alot more damage

 

[Danya]

Runie runspeed is lame. Slower than the level 23 minstrel/skald/bard runsong.

 

[old.Saborion]

But faster than every other class in the game.
What do you expect, that unless some class has the best ability of a certain sort, they suck? That Runie speed has saved me from more than one small group of fighters.

But hey, give Runies the same speed as skalds etc, I won`t complain. I know everyone else will though.

 

[old.LandShark]

RM: bolts, nearsight, runspeed, PBT
Eld: bolts, nearsight, stun, weak AE mezz
Wiz: bolts, specline DD.

Wiz has a specline bolt at 50 fire spec, but imho that doesn't make up for lack of PBT/nearsigh/stun or whatever. Too much versatility lost.

 

[Xero_X]

fire wizzys are the strongest in my opinion .......


but i dont really care MY ARROWS WILL DESTROY U ALL

 

[old.darkelf]

imo,runemaster is the best
1.their bolt is energy damage,most ppl don't have high energy resiste.
2.speed buff
3.PBT make them welcomed by pve grp(easy to lvl)

eld is nice too,both void and light eld is good in rvr and they have 9s stun .

about fire wizzard....yes,they have the best bolt and good dd,but they can do nothing when they r nearsighted

for damage,yes.......fire wizzard's bolt

 

[healer_mcheal]

Ive been one shotted by a yellow wizzie in bg1 with my eld.. but then again i did the same to him once i was ressed.. even tho i aint speced in void so i'd think eldy would be coz u can hide as well if u a lil lurry also i'd just go mana spec and u get base bolts and some nice pretty powerful snare dd's and aoe dd and a pbaoe and that loverly (saved my ass more than once) Stun

 

[infozwerg]

play smart

play dworf

cant be one shotted

have beard

 

[c0ngo]

Lol good plan, might try one on Pryd just 4 the beard

 

[Spudgie]

I'd rather have pointy ears than a beard.

 

[old.Leel]

Well, I think fire wiz sucks. They get the biggest damage, but no versatility. Ice wiz on the other hand, now that's something I fear a lot more. Quickcast aoe root, and you're basically toast. Lasts so long it's not even funny.

 

[old.Karamon]

The fire wizard has the higher damage output.
The best caster atm is the Runemaster, for the reasons in posts above mentioned.

After all, a caster nearsighted is a caster dead, doesnt it?

On the other hand, baseline stun at range 1500 from hibi casters is very useful.. but once again... nearsighted, they are useless...

 

[Eblessair]

strange how fire wizard bolts seem to never take more than 1/4 of my hp

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by old.Leel
Well, I think fire wiz sucks. They get the biggest damage, but no versatility. Ice wiz on the other hand, now that's something I fear a lot more. Quickcast aoe root, and you're basically toast. Lasts so long it's not even funny.

ice doesn't get aoe root...
that's theurgists yer thinking of

ice wizards get PBAoE and some wacky aoe debuffs/snare damage things.

 

[Madonion Slicer]

Well since the patch and Wiz getting the new spec line bolt, they own against other casters and rangers and hunters, in the BG there i could one shot casters, and ranger i would follow up with second bolt and they where down.

Fire Wiz also has the same range a Ranger, Hunter so as you watch them edge towards you just keep tapping the bolt key and you cast as they draw.

The only thing they is a pain and takes Wiz out of the game is the near sight, but it only lasts a few mins so take a back seat for bit and then get back in there.

My Wizard at 24 on Patch day went to the BG1, and i reached the R1 L4 with 352 Rp in under 3 evenings of play, they have to be one of the best classes in RVR.

And for some reason our AE scares the hell out of an on coming force, which i dont know why as it does not hit that hard.

And as for a stealther you better kill us in the first hit because even if we have a 10th of our hit points left and we get a quickcast root in, you are dead i am afraid we have plenty of time to back up DD you death.

 

[Sharp Thing]

Originally posted by old.laughingboy
And for some reason our AE scares the hell out of an on coming force, which i dont know why as it does not hit that hard.

watch the runies devastating spears (AE) and flee


the runies AE (starting from 24 in rc) is allot more frightning tho

 

[old.darkelf]

Originally posted by old.laughingboy
Well since the patch and Wiz getting the new spec line bolt, they own against other casters and rangers and hunters, in the BG there i could one shot casters, and ranger i would follow up with second bolt and they where down.

Fire Wiz also has the same range a Ranger, Hunter so as you watch them edge towards you just keep tapping the bolt key and you cast as they draw.

The only thing they is a pain and takes Wiz out of the game is the near sight, but it only lasts a few mins so take a back seat for bit and then get back in there.

My Wizard at 24 on Patch day went to the BG1, and i reached the R1 L4 with 352 Rp in under 3 evenings of play, they have to be one of the best classes in RVR.

And for some reason our AE scares the hell out of an on coming force, which i dont know why as it does not hit that hard.

And as for a stealther you better kill us in the first hit because even if we have a 10th of our hit points left and we get a quickcast root in, you are dead i am afraid we have plenty of time to back up DD you death.

make ur wizzard to lv50 and go to emain,then u'll see how good can ur fire wizzard do:sleeping:

 

[old.darkelf]

lv50 runemaster(bolt) : 2 bolt ;sux dd;root;nearsight;ae dd;speed buff;PBt
lv50 void eld(void/light): 2 bolt;sux dd;21s ae mezz;9s stun;nearsight;ae dd
lv50 firewizzard(full fire):2 bolt;better dd;root;ae dd
(let me know if i'm wrong)

 

[old.Leel]

Well, yes, as a mid, I've seen our runemasters killing HUGE groups of invaders with their ae. It has to be the best ae in the whole game, cuz I've never seen any other casters kill so many so fast. Rulke, (50 rm) rocks the field with his ae
The only thing that comes close in my experience is smite clerics, and that seems kinda wrong. Would expect fire wiz ae and void eld ae to be better than the cleric ae. Next on my list for resistances is spirit resist and energy resist which I need badly to survive those bastard clerics.

 

[infozwerg]

in my experience

energy resist which I need badly to survive those bastard clerics.

 

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Originally posted by old.Leel

The only thing that comes close in my experience is smite clerics, and that seems kinda wrong. Would expect fire wiz ae and void eld ae to be better than the cleric ae. Next on my list for resistances is spirit resist and energy resist which I need badly to survive those bastard clerics.

My smite does energy damage? That's new. And our AE rocks the wizzie one? That'd be cool, unfortunately you have no idea what you're talking about ^^