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old.Jeriraa

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Has anybody noticed that this line has NO level 50 spell? Does anyone know why? Will there be a level 50 spell added?
 
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mid-gentry

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Why would u want a 50 spec spell... with 47 rc u can also get 26 supp for pbt, a higher aoe or bolt wouldnt be worth giving up pbt for imho
 
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Sarnat

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Yeah geez... Incredible why people complain when they can spec more efficiently. If they'd make the spec bolt L50, we'd probably see a lot of PBT RMs out there ;P
 
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old.Jeriraa

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Originally posted by mid-gentry
a higher aoe or bolt wouldnt be worth giving up pbt for imho

Now tell me about the worth of a 10 second pulsing bladeturn? When you charge into a bunch enemies how many will hit you? How long will the battle last?
Usaly you will have at least 2 people attacking you and another one nuking/shooting you. The pbt blocks 1 (physical) attack every 10 seconds (If you stay close enough to your Runie!). Imho 10 sec pbt is pointless in RvR. It might help alot in PvE where you fight 1 mob at a time and a fight last 'longer' than in RvR. In RvR Runies tend to stop and nuke while melee chars charge. Most times I found myself outside pbt range thou as an archer I am a supporter and don't even charge into the crowd. I would rather specc to 50 than waste my points for pbt. I'm almost sure a lvl 50 destruction Runie can pretty much 1-hit everything not wearing plate. In the low lvl BG I even 1-hitted plate wearers.

@Sarnat: I was not complaining. That would sound like 'All the other classes have a cool lvl 50 thingy but not destruction runies. Gimmie a cool lvl 50 spell. Mommie I want lvl 50 spell. /em cries'. I was just wondering.
 
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old.Emma

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I was kinda thinking the same thing with runecarving spec, no 50th spell :( but then at lvl 36 with 26 supp/24+4 rc, im kinda thinking of stopping rc spec at 26 then continue speccing supp to get the 6s pbt. only reason is over the past week or so in emain i find that my bolts are useless unless im attack a class that is weak ie caster/rague class`s. by going 47 supp/26 rc i`ll still have good rc damage and 6s pbt along with some very nice nukes that snare. aoe snare nuke imho is very usefull in rvr stop the gits running away so fast.
 
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Sarnat

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Emma, you need to get 50 supp or 26 supp. Stopping at 44 (6s pulse) will leave you with a crap DD. Once 1.52 hits EU, suppression line DDs will be cold damage, normal DD range (1500) and the AE will have reduced casting time (3s).

I suggest you go with your RC to max now and respec when 1.52 comes.

To Jeriraa:

If RC would have even a L48 spell, exping in midgard would be a major pain in the ass. Currently it's not that hard to get a PBT RM but it used to be tough sometimes. I know only 2 other supp RMs besides mine so the 6s pulse isn't common in Midgard. I would think hibernia has it a lot easier with PBT as every warden should spec nurture atleast to 45 (6s pulse), and they're a tank class, who usually stay alive longer and are where other tanks are too. Albion probably has it abit tougher with PBT I assume, or are theurgs common enough?

And pure RC runie can't 1 hit anything but mages and maybe some rogues who don't have epic armour yet, and even that takes a crit. Your performance tends to go down in the upperlevels because your target's defence improves with higher AF and better resists.
 
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old.Emma

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Theurgists are like skalds, ie bloody hundreds of em, it wouldnt supprise me if everyone that plays on alb has a theurgist alt unless its there main. pbt is common in alb, the 10s one is obviously the most common but still, 99% of them have some form of pbt. yet for us mids, we can either have pbt and crap nukes or good nukes and crap pbt/no pbt.
 
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Danya

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Why should it have a level 50 spell? Most lines don't have a level 50 spell, what makes runecarving special?
 
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mid-gentry

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Lets see 10 sec pbt... at keeps the 10 sec pbt makes alot of differnece... if 2 runie's in grp u can have 3 archers on u and dont take real dmg... also for lvling 40-50 where malmo is the only real place to do it imo, aint gonna be meny grp's that will have a non pbt runie. But u can make a runie now and spec full supp and respec at 50 when we get 1.52... thats what i would do anyway
 
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old.Emma

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Originally posted by Sarnat
Emma, you need to get 50 supp or 26 supp. Stopping at 44 (6s pulse) will leave you with a crap DD. Once 1.52 hits EU, suppression line DDs will be cold damage, normal DD range (1500) and the AE will have reduced casting time (3s).

I suggest you go with your RC to max now and respec when 1.52 comes.

To Jeriraa:

If RC would have even a L48 spell, exping in midgard would be a major pain in the ass. Currently it's not that hard to get a PBT RM but it used to be tough sometimes. I know only 2 other supp RMs besides mine so the 6s pulse isn't common in Midgard. I would think hibernia has it a lot easier with PBT as every warden should spec nurture atleast to 45 (6s pulse), and they're a tank class, who usually stay alive longer and are where other tanks are too. Albion probably has it abit tougher with PBT I assume, or are theurgs common enough?

And pure RC runie can't 1 hit anything but mages and maybe some rogues who don't have epic armour yet, and even that takes a crit. Your performance tends to go down in the upperlevels because your target's defence improves with higher AF and better resists.

if you bothered to actually read my post where did i say anything about stopping at 44 supp.. dont think i did, i`m going for 26 rc, and 47 supp which gives me all spec line spells apart from the last dd+snare 50th spell and if you can manage at lvl 49 with the 2nd from last dd im sure 50 wouldn`t bother you that much.
 
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Dook_Pug

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The best way to lvl a Runie IMO is to get 26 Supp for PBT first and then to raise RC.

In the higher 40s when Malmo is a bore soloing is fast with the high RC and grouping will be easy from 26+ as everyone loves a Runie with PBT.

For RvR effective however I'd go full Darkness. Bolts are way too bugged to make a difference and our DD is baseline and sucks ass :)

I'll be going 26Supp 47Dark at respec.

Having an RC spell at 50 would be pointless.
 
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AzuratMinimus

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Well speccing 50 sup is way better then speccing RC at the moment, since bolts just bug at the moment, i think. You do a lot of dd damage more then rc dd and it got a snare thing that´s extremly good when you either need to chase someone or run.

You get some nicer archer/figher protection, can melee blue tanks.

The only thing that sucks is the powerdraining.
 
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Sarnat

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Yeah power cost is insane. Just got my 6s bubble. Got Serenity II though, should be enough with PoC. But PoC is not always available...
 
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Takers Zamora

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How do you mean that the bolts are bugged at the moment? Is this due to the "The target is caught in a melee and your bolt has been blocked by an attacker" when the mob/enemy doesnt have anything near him/her?
 
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Dook_Pug

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Originally posted by Takers Zamora
How do you mean that the bolts are bugged at the moment? Is this due to the "The target is caught in a melee and your bolt has been blocked by an attacker" when the mob/enemy doesnt have anything near him/her?

Among other things.
 
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old.Bubble

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In the low lvl BG I even 1-hitted plate wearers. >>> someones talking out of there ass :)

26 in Supp makes the runie much more group friendly imo
10 sec bt in more useful than manuely casting the spell
 

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