Rules for Legion raid !

[Shrekward]

It's kinda greedy to roll for an item when you alrdy got one in the same raid, but as we have no clear rules for these things noone can blame anyone doing so.

How about we make some kind of official rules to use for these situations. Here is just a proposal:

All items should be distributed through copperroll/lottery.

If raid leader has not claimed beforehand that he wants a specific item, then that item is also subject for roll/lottery.

Only 45+ players can participate in rolling.

If you recieved an item then you are out and can't recieve another one.


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Trapp
50 ranger <Celtic Fist>

Motorheadii
50 druid <Celtic Fist>


It was on post about Aragon (I think all saw this long discussion).
I agree with Motor.
If any1 has his own opinion about it plz say it there.
I hope last raid was not really last raid for us and we need some rules for all next raids, I don't like after each raid look to so long discussion that we have now.

P.S. Sorry for my english, it is not my main one

 

[Alrindel]

All persons participating in any Darkness Falls/Relic raid MUST be fully clothed.

ESPECIALLY pants.

ESPECIALLY Shrekward.

 

[Danya]

All participants must bring sufficient pie for their own use. It is not the raid leader's responsibility to ensure you have enough pie, it is your responsibility. Those arriving late may purchase pies off Eble-pie-master, however they must pay him whatever he asks...

 

[Shrekward]

@Alrindel
Hm.. I understand, you are really funny guy, but don't flood here plz, if you like to see me without pants you can to make new one post on forum. Also i can to send you more my picture with and witout pants.

 

[Anu]

Originally posted by Shrekward or Trapp


Only 45+ players can participate in rolling.

TOTALLY DISAGREE!! why only 45+? can sub 45+ not contribute to raids like?

Who ever originally posted this either Trapp or Shrekward you are very narrow minded.

 

[<Harle>]

A line has to be drawn somewhere, and I think 45 is a very reasonable line ( as items would be just orange for them and thus about usable). It's just pure fact that lower lvl characters cant even hit legion, get resists on most normal mobs down there or just heal for minimal effect cmpared to the high-lvls. Of course there are exceptions ( a lvl 43 Bard will have the same songs that a lvl 49 Bard has), but then again: a line has to be drawn, and when I went on a raid with my lower-lvl alt I was more than satisfied with the fun and the xp i got there, and wasn't really interested in drops at all.

 

[old.Xanthian]

Being lvl 44 and having gone on all legion raid on hib to date..
I feel that the lvl 45 limit is just crap, Maybe i cant hit legion with my spells but im sure MOST lvl 45's cant either... But i sure do help on the other mobs.

Also all items are Orange at lvl 44 not 45.

 

[Wuren]

lvl 35 participaiting to a legion raid and expecting drops?

Come on, on every raid ive been apart of leading/following its been clearly said that is 45/47+ only. We cant stop u from coming along getting xp, but sorry m8 u are no real use for the raid, only getting lots of aggro on the easy parts. Last raids we had to much ppl so it was real hard to move and control the zerg.

 

[Anu]

Well i went on saturdays and sundays legion raid.. and erm got NO AGGRO.. and erm ressed a few and erm healed.. and to hit legion.. i went as a healer not a tank obviousley

I had fun both times. and if i don't get a drop then fine but to exclude simple cos i can't hit legion is pure BS and cos i can't at that time wear/use the item is also pure BS.. so who needs to get real heh!.. if u thought about it one little bit not every one is a tank and can do other things but bash on mobs.. Thankfully my guild see's my worth and i get in there group.


Anyways i don't want to be a moaner/whiner so i'll say no more on this subject.

LOWBIE say's BYE! :sleeping:

 

[old.Trapp|Uberleech]

ps. What I meant was that if you recieved an item in a legion raid, then you are out for any other items on this raid not on future raids.

 

[old.Trapp|Uberleech]

I dunno, if I was lvl 35 I would feel a bit greedy to claim a legion drop, maybe it's just me

 

[Alrindel]

I'm 45 and I don't think I have any claim on Legion drops: the 48-50s need them more, contribute more to the raid, and can use the items right away. My turn - if it is to come - will come later.

 

[Danya]

I'm 48 and wouldn't claim an uber drop, just some of the "normal" loot legion drops. TBH a 35 claiming loot on a legion raid is just stupid, a) it's all purple as all loot is 50-51 b) as noted a 35 puts in a lot less than a 45+. You get xp and possibly even seals, what more do you want?

 

[old.Moriaana]

If I went on a Legion raid, I would be happy with the seals. All I do is heal and buff. It's not like I am in any real danger..... Hehehehe....

Although I am proud to say I have tanked wee weres for guild groups

 

[Anu]

can i have a t-shirt?

cmon make me a t-shirt then at least.. maybe legion will frop one

 

[old.Miss]

i got a new good rule... All give me the l00t and drops, and i'll give you pie!

 

[old.Xanthian]

You get the loot anyway dont u Miss

 

[old.Niljindil]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
Being lvl 44 and having gone on all legion raid on hib to date..
I feel that the lvl 45 limit is just crap, Maybe i cant hit legion with my spells but im sure MOST lvl 45's cant either... But i sure do help on the other mobs.

Also all items are Orange at lvl 44 not 45.

Ok, heres the thing, the first raid i was on i was level 46, i emptied my mana bar 3!!! times and didnt harm him *once*, the second raid i was level 49 and before i emptied half i had nuked him twice for 40(-10) damage and 36(-9) damage.

And for you anu, a level 50 ruid can probobly res the same person that you require your entire mana bar for 6 times in the time you can res him once, so tell me why you deserve an equal right to an item for slaying a beast probobly able to make satan wish he never said a word to god in the first place.

This game is level based, just an example, i came upon a blue skald today, he DDed me twice for 70ish damage and then i resisted his mez, he then missed me 2 times and didnt even break bladeturn. I stunned him and nuked him to death not even having to try hard.

Had i been 5 levels lower i would have most certainly been onwed so hard i wouldnt have started swearing to myself. The same rule goes for legion/dragons etc, they are designed to be extremely hard unless you have *alot* of *high* level characters trying to beat them. Thats game mechanics tho, i wish they were different, but under this rulesset i cant justify anyone saying that a lvl 42 in a raid should have as much right as a level 50 if they were both there and did what they could, because the level 42 just *cant* do as much as the level 50, even if the level 50 is a brainless idiotic mushroom he *still* does ten(if not more) times the damage the level 42 does.

There will always be made legion raids, the level 50s will get their items and the new level 50s will be left alone to have the drops they rightly deserve, but if they cant contribute to the same level as someone else, and cant even use the item, then they shouldnt be able to say "i want it" and have the same chance of a lvl 50 to get it. If everyone/some who wants the item thinks that the 42 deserved the item more than them, then go ahead, give it to him, i wont stop you. But someone who barely can contribute in any way at all have no right(imho) whatsoever to get a drop that is
*designed* to be used by a level 50 character.

Call me an elitist, call me a jerk, i dont care, i stand by my opinion and i think yours is faulty.

ps. legion staves are crap anyway(thats why i wasnt on the raid in the first place) .ds

And about the aragone thing, I wasnt there, i dont *know* what happened, so i wont comment, just kill the damn albs so they dont kill me!!!


EDITdidnt change anything of the above, just added this)

Originally posted by Anu
I had fun both times. and if i don't get a drop then fine but to exclude simple cos i can't hit legion is pure BS and cos i can't at that time wear/use the item is also pure BS.. so who needs to get real heh!.. if u thought about it one little bit not every one is a tank and can do other things but bash on mobs.. Thankfully my guild see's my worth and i get in there group.

IF you will be able to use it at a later time, then i have this to say to you.

"Go kill legion with the current lootwanting highlevels, then you truly deserve it"

Dont show up on a raid unless someone(of the arrangers) personally said "please come, we need you"(if so, then its sure as hell you should get something) and *demand* equal rights of an item. Thats like a 10 year old saying that just because he can drive almost as good as a 20 year old he *deserves* the right to try and get a drivers license, but we know he wont and his time will come.

 

[inuyasha]

Lemme try:

Anyone who want to come to the raid, can come. Lag is the matter of everyone, and it does not feel right to exclude anyone from the raid becase of someone have a crappy line/3d-accelerator.

The leader of the raid might or might not have first pick on a item, but if this happens, he or she must name the ITEM, not a unspecified one. Like "i want that and that hammer" is oki, if it drops, but "I want the best drop on this raid that a hero can use" would not be a valid choise. This must however be clearified before the mob the raid is attacking, falls, and people must agree. This should be done through yell and eventual chat-groups.

Then to the hard parts, who get the drop.
It seems fair that anyone who can use the drop, regardless of first or second weapon, should be able to get the drops. A ranger should have equal rights as a bladesmaster for a blade, as well should a hero. However, a hero who does not spec blade, would not be allowed to get this drop on the roll.
By "can use" the limit "orange con or lower" seems quite fair, anyone can use a orange item, and they may need it even more then those who it cons yellow. However, if the item have a level requirement, of for example 50, the drop should indeed be rolled only by those level 50, becase this is the ones able to use it.
Those mentioned by "lower leveles" can simply get this items, when they get to the appropriate level.

The roll procedure should continue as it does, and of the known systems any is equally fair. The most random one is that everyone in the CG that want the different items pick a number, and then a mob is killed. The last number of coppers it dropped, is the one who won the roll. However, it is hard to do this at times, becase there are not always mobs around the levels of those interested in such drops, so to make someone call a random number, and keep your names hidden, should be just as good. (god...can't they just include a god damn /random x-xx button!!!)

Plez let us refraim from getting more struggels like the one on the last Legion raid.

Inuyasha out

 

[fade-]

45+ cap for drops yes I agree, ne1 under that is just there for as a spectator, cept for maybe healers but u have to draw the line and the 45+'s deserve it more purely for lvl achievement. 45-‘s are welcome to ne seals they get

New rule: If u got a drop (not seals) in ne of the last 3 raids u cannot claim 1.

IMO leaders are welcome to pick a drop for them self’s but to say they have to declare it b4 the raid is silly because as has been stated b4 on this forum there are no complete lists of items so items may drop that no1 even knows about yet. NE items they do claim should be stated in /br in mbeo after the raid and b4 the item has been put to the lottery.

If u want to claim an item u should only go for items u intend to use ur self, not for alts and not for m8s they weren’t there.

All drops should be recorded and posted on here who got what, not just to be picky but could be usefull to see what are common drops.

ppl keep going on about greed… its not greedy to want and pursue an item u can use.

[edit]
just to add every legion raid I've been on I'd not even thought about drops till I saw them drop, I'd still be there even if he didn't drop a single seal and I'd hope drops arn't ppls only motivation for these raids.

 

[old.DachraK]

Everyone who starts an event can make his/her own rules. Just be sure all know.

 

[Khalen]

Ohhh this does bring back memories

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by old.DachraK
Everyone who starts an event can make his/her own rules. Just be sure all know.

Jupp, I agree. /y the rules are not that hard. and if ppl don't pay attention or show up late and don't hear the rules they have themself to blame. tho the mainpart of the army must ofcuz be able to hear the rules.

and if you don't accept the rules there is a portal at the opposite side of the merchantroom.

and if nothing is stated every drop will be shared in mBeo-cointoss since the pack will assume this

 

[old.Demerzel]

as for lottoing: lol asking an bypassing lowlvl say an number between 1 and 5 is sure as hell not random normally they say nr3 95% of the cases.

 

[Anu]

Call me an elitist, call me a jerk

heh um FAT BAS.. (old joke i read somewhere)

Anyways i don't tbh care about the drops but it made u type loads of stuff

Well tbh at 1st i did.. now i don't.. Suppose legion may still be around in 10-15 lvl's

It was still fun going with my guild on these raids

Thanks for the loooooooooooong answers in disagreement and i hope it was worth the time it took to type

[Edit] I'd be more than happy with seals tbh.. they can clap and jump for fish.. maybe balance beach balls on the noses aswell

 

[Pash]

Just proposal:

Why not to split the loot at portal to Connact before Legion chamber? Whose who want to leave can freely do it.

its easy to find a mob for copper roll there.

and after lottery legion can spawn again

 

[Kobold]

What if you die and go LD, fall trough floor etc...better to do in mbeo Nice thought though

About the lvl req: Those things that drops from legion is ment for lvl 50 peeps, most of them also have a lvl req that say you have to be lvl 50. So it would be a bit stupid imo if a lvl 40 or a 45 got it, cause they don't need it/can't use it. Seals ca ofcourse be dealed to lower lvls as well

PS: We gotta get our arses to alb or mid soon to get back DF...been closed in days