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£1100 inc shipping tho woulda prolly paid more for one with oiut the coil whine which my poweramp is picking and outputting to my speakers
 

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£1100 inc shipping tho woulda prolly paid more for one with oiut the coil whine which my poweramp is picking and outputting to my speakers
Upgrading from ... ????
 

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3060 price has gone down quite a bit in the last week... now at £540 ish, which given what it was before, is quite reasonable.
 

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Seems stock on OCUK of 3080 Ti's is ok, although with the cheapest being £1400 up to £1800 that is ultimately 3x PS5s/Xbox X.

3070 Ti's £800+.
 

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Hey gang.... question for you guys... I currently have an old ati 570:

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Display Devices
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Card name: Radeon RX 570 Series
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x67DF)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Type: Full Device (POST)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_67DF&SUBSYS_2379148C&REV_EF
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 12239 MB
Dedicated Memory: 4075 MB
Shared Memory: 8163 MB
Current Mode: 2560 x 1440 (32 bit) (60Hz)
HDR Support: Not Supported
Display Topology: Internal
Display Color Space: DXGI_COLOR_SPACE_RGB_FULL_G22_NONE_P709
Color Primaries: Red(0.650391,0.337891), Green(0.313477,0.625977), Blue(0.150391,0.051758), White Point(0.313477,0.329102)
Display Luminance: Min Luminance = 0.500000, Max Luminance = 270.000000, MaxFullFrameLuminance = 270.000000
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: 2778X
Monitor Id: AOC2778
Native Mode: 2560 x 1440(p) (59.951Hz)
Output Type: HDMI
Monitor Capabilities: HDR Not Supported
Display Pixel Format: DISPLAYCONFIG_PIXELFORMAT_32BPP
Advanced Color: Not Supported
Driver Name: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0376209.inf_amd64_b3bdffadea4def3f\B374968\aticfx64.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0376209.inf_amd64_b3bdffadea4def3f\B374968\aticfx64.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0376209.inf_amd64_b3bdffadea4def3f\B374968\aticfx64.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0376209.inf_amd64_b3bdffadea4def3f\B374968\amdxc64.dll
Driver File Version: 30.00.13023.4001 (English)
Driver Version: 30.0.13023.4001
DDI Version: 12
Feature Levels: 12_0,11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
Driver Model: WDDM 2.7
Hardware Scheduling: Supported:False Enabled:False
Graphics Preemption: Primitive
Compute Preemption: DMA
Miracast: Not Supported
Detachable GPU: No
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
Power P-states: Not Supported
Virtualization: Paravirtualization
Block List: DISABLE_HWSCH
Catalog Attributes: Universal:False Declarative:True
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 16/12/2021 01:00:00, 1839816 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-249F-11CF-9D78-A63140C2D335}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x67DF
SubSys ID: 0x2379148C
Revision ID: 0x00EF
Driver Strong Name: oem42.inf:cb0ae414b1a2998a:ati2mtag_Polaris10:30.0.13023.4001:pCI\VEN_1002&DEV_67DF&REV_EF
Rank Of Driver: 00CF2000
Video Accel: Unknown
DXVA2 Modes: DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_VLD DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_IDCT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT {4245F676-2BBC-4166-A0BB-54E7B849C380} {6719B6FB-5CAD-4ACB-B00A-F3BFDEC38727} {9901CCD3-CA12-4B7E-867A-E2223D9255C3} DXVA2_ModeHEVC_VLD_Main {EA72396A-67EC-4781-BEDE-56F498F04EF2} {C152CA8F-738C-461B-AD89-FC292CF8F162} {514A356C-7027-4AFF-8A60-AFD2C1F672F1} DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_Stereo_Progressive_NoFGT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_Stereo_NoFGT DXVA2_ModeVC1_VLD {CA15D19A-2B48-43D6-979E-7A6E9C802FF8} {7C74ADC6-E2BA-4ADE-86DE-30BEABB40CC1} DXVA2_ModeMPEG4pt2_VLD_AdvSimple_NoGMC {D1C20509-AE7B-4E72-AE3B-49F88D58992F} {103473E4-10EA-11DF-9A92-2BA055D89593} {84AD67F6-4C21-419A-9F0B-24F0578906C1} {725AD240-786C-471E-AD3C-38F739936517} {95664FF5-9E03-4C74-BB4F-9178D6035E58} DXVA2_ModeHEVC_VLD_Main10 {65D1FA41-58AF-453A-9CAB-5D981156DA9F} {2DB154B6-DBB2-4079-A3FF-60D7A898A6AB} {C74A3FD0-D713-4581-A02E-8EDFB112ACE3} {603A4756-A864-4F91-BB62-2C935B7A1391} {C58B9A06-7E89-11E1-BB00-70B34824019B}
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
MPO MaxPlanes: 1
MPO Caps: Not Supported
MPO Stretch: Not Supported
MPO Media Hints: Not Supported
MPO Formats: Not Supported
PanelFitter Caps: Not Supported
PanelFitter Stretch: Not Supported
Component Drivers:
Driver Name: Unknown
Driver Version: Unknown
Driver Date: Unknown
Driver Provider: Unknown
Catalog Attributes: N/A


... my lad has just got himself an upgrade to replace this:


View: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01IPFN7UQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_X6VTQH32NPMKQMFCWZKV_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1



Should I buy it off him? TIA x
 

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Hey gang.... question for you guys... I currently have an old ati 570:

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: Radeon RX 570 Series
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x67DF)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Type: Full Device (POST)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_67DF&SUBSYS_2379148C&REV_EF
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 12239 MB
Dedicated Memory: 4075 MB
Shared Memory: 8163 MB
Current Mode: 2560 x 1440 (32 bit) (60Hz)
HDR Support: Not Supported
Display Topology: Internal
Display Color Space: DXGI_COLOR_SPACE_RGB_FULL_G22_NONE_P709
Color Primaries: Red(0.650391,0.337891), Green(0.313477,0.625977), Blue(0.150391,0.051758), White Point(0.313477,0.329102)
Display Luminance: Min Luminance = 0.500000, Max Luminance = 270.000000, MaxFullFrameLuminance = 270.000000
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: 2778X
Monitor Id: AOC2778
Native Mode: 2560 x 1440(p) (59.951Hz)
Output Type: HDMI
Monitor Capabilities: HDR Not Supported
Display Pixel Format: DISPLAYCONFIG_PIXELFORMAT_32BPP
Advanced Color: Not Supported
Driver Name: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0376209.inf_amd64_b3bdffadea4def3f\B374968\aticfx64.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0376209.inf_amd64_b3bdffadea4def3f\B374968\aticfx64.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0376209.inf_amd64_b3bdffadea4def3f\B374968\aticfx64.dll,C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0376209.inf_amd64_b3bdffadea4def3f\B374968\amdxc64.dll
Driver File Version: 30.00.13023.4001 (English)
Driver Version: 30.0.13023.4001
DDI Version: 12
Feature Levels: 12_0,11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
Driver Model: WDDM 2.7
Hardware Scheduling: Supported:False Enabled:False
Graphics Preemption: Primitive
Compute Preemption: DMA
Miracast: Not Supported
Detachable GPU: No
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
Power P-states: Not Supported
Virtualization: Paravirtualization
Block List: DISABLE_HWSCH
Catalog Attributes: Universal:False Declarative:True
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 16/12/2021 01:00:00, 1839816 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-249F-11CF-9D78-A63140C2D335}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x67DF
SubSys ID: 0x2379148C
Revision ID: 0x00EF
Driver Strong Name: oem42.inf:cb0ae414b1a2998a:ati2mtag_Polaris10:30.0.13023.4001:pCI\VEN_1002&DEV_67DF&REV_EF
Rank Of Driver: 00CF2000
Video Accel: Unknown
DXVA2 Modes: DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_VLD DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_IDCT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT {4245F676-2BBC-4166-A0BB-54E7B849C380} {6719B6FB-5CAD-4ACB-B00A-F3BFDEC38727} {9901CCD3-CA12-4B7E-867A-E2223D9255C3} DXVA2_ModeHEVC_VLD_Main {EA72396A-67EC-4781-BEDE-56F498F04EF2} {C152CA8F-738C-461B-AD89-FC292CF8F162} {514A356C-7027-4AFF-8A60-AFD2C1F672F1} DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_Stereo_Progressive_NoFGT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_Stereo_NoFGT DXVA2_ModeVC1_VLD {CA15D19A-2B48-43D6-979E-7A6E9C802FF8} {7C74ADC6-E2BA-4ADE-86DE-30BEABB40CC1} DXVA2_ModeMPEG4pt2_VLD_AdvSimple_NoGMC {D1C20509-AE7B-4E72-AE3B-49F88D58992F} {103473E4-10EA-11DF-9A92-2BA055D89593} {84AD67F6-4C21-419A-9F0B-24F0578906C1} {725AD240-786C-471E-AD3C-38F739936517} {95664FF5-9E03-4C74-BB4F-9178D6035E58} DXVA2_ModeHEVC_VLD_Main10 {65D1FA41-58AF-453A-9CAB-5D981156DA9F} {2DB154B6-DBB2-4079-A3FF-60D7A898A6AB} {C74A3FD0-D713-4581-A02E-8EDFB112ACE3} {603A4756-A864-4F91-BB62-2C935B7A1391} {C58B9A06-7E89-11E1-BB00-70B34824019B}
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
MPO MaxPlanes: 1
MPO Caps: Not Supported
MPO Stretch: Not Supported
MPO Media Hints: Not Supported
MPO Formats: Not Supported
PanelFitter Caps: Not Supported
PanelFitter Stretch: Not Supported
Component Drivers:
Driver Name: Unknown
Driver Version: Unknown
Driver Date: Unknown
Driver Provider: Unknown
Catalog Attributes: N/A


... my lad has just got himself an upgrade to replace this:


View: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01IPFN7UQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_X6VTQH32NPMKQMFCWZKV_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1



Should I buy it off him? TIA x
Depends how much he wants for it :)

A 1060 is still acceptable for 1080p gaming at moderate settings but not much more.
 

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They are dumping 3x atm, since the arse fell out of crypto, wait a few weeks.

Edit, and to answer your question, 10x series isn't that bad, I'm still on a 1080ti and running 4k fps on most 2k 60fps on others...but don't really give much of a shit about AAA titles that need the power, mostly because they have the gameplay of my kitchen sink when we haven't bothered washing up in a few days.
 

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For context I gave my son’s old 1060 away to a friend of a friend for nowt :)
 

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Depends how much he wants for it :)

A 1060 is still acceptable for 1080p gaming at moderate settings but not much more.
I'm not doing much gaming these days, though I do have an iRacing sub still... monitor is nothing flash either, so for a token amount (he's my son, after all... many Dads will get that) I may just go for it.....
 

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There's going to be a ton of second-hand GPUs floating around soon because Ethereum mining is going to stop being a thing in about 3 weeks (nothing to do with "tHe ArSe FaLlInG ouT oF cRypTo" ffs) so yeah, if it wasn't your son I'd tell you to hold on but for his sake (he's not likely to get very much at all for it otherwise) you may as well take it off him.
 

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Why would anyone willingly buy a miner's card?

If it's been used for crypto, it's fucked.
 

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I'm not doing much gaming these days, though I do have an iRacing sub still... monitor is nothing flash either, so for a token amount (he's my son, after all... many Dads will get that) I may just go for it.....
Yeah, this, it's just an opportunity to be a good Dad and line his pocket. Smart play is give him just less than you can eBay the card for ;)
 

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Why would anyone willingly buy a miner's card?

If it's been used for crypto, it's fucked.
Yeah, that's just ignorant "PC Gamer" nonsense. Miners typically look after their cards better than gamers - they undervolt them because all they want is the VRAM (the GPU itself isn't used at all), they flash custom BIOSes to alter the timings and voltages to make them as efficient as possible, they're running 24/7 so the risks of heat cycles affecting the silicon/solders/etc are vastly reduced, they sure as shit don't overclock them (which is the single most dangerous thing you can do to a graphics card). Once the original BIOS is back on the card it's more often than not functionally as good as new. The only part that might fail with lots of use is the occasional fan.

There are definitely cards to avoid (those with GDDR6x memory for a start) and there are risks attached but assuming you know what you're looking for, do some research and take precautions (get them to share 3D Mark scores and diagnostics info, buy through sites that offer protection etc) there are going to be bargains to be had (especially if the requirement is just a capable graphics card) and those cards will last for years. I sold dozens of cards (clearly advertised as ex-mining) a couple of years ago (some to miners but mostly individually to gamers) and I didn't have a single dissatisfied buyer.
 

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Yeah, that's just ignorant "PC Gamer" nonsense. Miners typically look after their cards better than gamers - they undervolt them because all they want is the VRAM (the GPU itself isn't used at all), they flash custom BIOSes to alter the timings and voltages to make them as efficient as possible, they're running 24/7 so the risks of heat cycles affecting the silicon/solders/etc are vastly reduced, they sure as shit don't overclock them (which is the single most dangerous thing you can do to a graphics card). Once the original BIOS is back on the card it's more often than not functionally as good as new. The only part that might fail with lots of use is the occasional fan.

There are definitely cards to avoid (those with GDDR6x memory for a start) and there are risks attached but assuming you know what you're looking for, do some research and take precautions (get them to share 3D Mark scores and diagnostics info, buy through sites that offer protection etc) there are going to be bargains to be had (especially if the requirement is just a capable graphics card) and those cards will last for years. I sold dozens of cards (clearly advertised as ex-mining) a couple of years ago (some to miners but mostly individually to gamers) and I didn't have a single dissatisfied buyer.
If you say so :)
 

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Hopefully we see a decent chunk taken off. I won't hold my breath though and frankly, part of me says fuck'um for price gouging, let them keep the stock.
 

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RTX 4080 (12GB) 1,099 €
RTX 4080 (16GB) 1,469 €
RTX 4090 (24GB) 1,949 €

They can Foxtrot Oscar with those prices.
 

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RTX 4080 (12GB) 1,099 €
RTX 4080 (16GB) 1,469 €
RTX 4090 (24GB) 1,949 €

They can Foxtrot Oscar with those prices.
Which is why they should all fuck off, and even better, those cunts that worked towards destroying our world (and yes, they have done just that, for personal gain) should also have a pile of worthless used cards, fuck'um.

Nobody needs these cards, the bar for "graphics" is much lower, thanks to consoles. Again, fuck'um. Do Not Buy.

Sadly, the market is flooded with "cheap" cards as much as it is flooded with idiots.
 

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I have an old RTX 570... son stumped up for a new card so I got his 1060ti for peanuts... good enough for what I do these days (yeah, mostly just p0rn :) )
 

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