ROTFL - U need Win NT to play bots properly

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old.Shelob

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ID's netcode is such a stack of shit that U need Win NT for the bots.
I thought the bots were moving really unsmooth, then tried q3a out on NT and they were lovely and smooth (after cranking sv_fps to 60).
This seems to be the same problem as with win95 QWSV. I gotta say I am appaled that ID disses its main audience so bad tbh.
And the bots are easier (and more fun to play) in NT due to the smoothness.
 
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old.Maverick

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I've run them under 98, NT4 and Win2k and noticed no difference whatsoever, so maybe there's something else wrong?

I doubt it's the same problem as QWSV used to have on 95 as you don't actually send/receive any data while running bots.

// mav
 
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old.Shelob

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I'm not mistaken, running on NT on the same machine or on a different one and playing over the network under win98 gives the same results, they play much better with a 30 LAN ping to an NT server than playing on a local Win98 server. Its easier to own them with a 30 ping but smooth NT bots than 0 under 98.
Really sad really.
 
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old.Maverick

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I don't get what you mean by a 'local' 98 server?

You mean running a Q3 server seperately, and then connecting to it?

// m.
 
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old.Shelob

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No I mean running quake3 once and playing 'single player' on it. Since normal quake a single player game has always been a network game that didn't listen for network connections.
I aint doing anything lame, the bots just do suck when win98 is calculating them.
It doesn't bother me as I have a spare machine to run NT on, so I can still play as a Win98 client with usb mouse and stuff, but I just think its a bit of a shame for people (the majority I guess) that will have to put up with skitty bots.
Unless u have a good framerate and good eyes I guess you wont even notice though.
 
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old.Rainbow

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I am with you Shelob, the movement of the bots bears strong similarity to the qw/win95 froggies, ie rough round the edges.
Totally unlike the bot movement in netquake or q2.
Also i get quite a framerate drop with the bots, never noticed this when I used to have a 233 and played q1/q2 bots. Maybe they are more intelligent, I dunno cant be arsed to find out
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