Rift- Is it worth it ?

[Punishment]

Worth buying ? Im just messing around on Uthgard atm semi bored wondering if it is wirth buying Rift tomorrow, hmmz

 

[BloodOmen]

Worth buying ? Im just messing around on Uthgard atm semi bored wondering if it is wirth buying Rift tomorrow, hmmz

yes.

 

[Gwadien]

yes.

He speaks the truth.

 

[Punishment]

Hmm i might head to HMV tomorrow and pick up a copy

 

[Shagrat]

Yep definitely worth it, enjoying it immensely atm

 

[Mabs]

i have to say, no

if you wanted to play it, you would be

asking us to convince you to buy it doesnt bode well

 

[Punishment]

i have to say, no

if you wanted to play it, you would be

asking us to convince you to buy it doesnt bode well

Not really, only reason i wasnt on the 2nd beta as i had a key was that i wasnt gonna burn 8gb downloading the game when my monthly allowance is 15gb, if i was ever gonna buy it, it would have to be a the boxed game itself

You know what they say about assumption ...

 

[Lollie]

makes an ass out of u and mption?

 

[eksdee]

Honestly, I like the game a lot but if you are looking purely for PvP I'm not so sure this game will be for everyone in the long run. The world PvP is limited, and that's being kind. That aside, you have four cookie-cutter battlegrounds to PvP in. Not exactly something I see keeping many PvPers interested for a long time.

That said, the game is definitely good. It is very polished, there is tonnes of content, the class balancing is a little way off - though I truly believe a lot of people are overblowing how 'overpowered' certain things are since everything so far is based more or less on low-level pugging.

 

[Ctuchik]

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That said, the game is definitely good. It is very polished, there is tonnes of content, the class balancing is a little way off - though I truly believe a lot of people are overblowing how 'overpowered' certain things are since everything so far is based more or less on low-level pugging.

They don't over exaggerate that much. There is a select few melee builds that are so insanely overpowered that there's no real point trying to fight back.

There is overpowered mage builds to obviously, but they are still no where near as bad as the melee builds as no spell what i know of will crit for over 2.5k when the caster wants it to. It CAN crit for that, but not on demand like certain melee builds.

And ofc, the most popular of the melee builds have a 100% insta heal, no mage build has that. Not even Chloromancers. (i think, can be wrong)

And then we come to the Void Knight, a defensive tank with such an insane amount of mana drain abilities they can drain a mage or priest dry in about half a minute, and no amount of sacrifice life: mana or mana pots is going to help. Not to mention that the more magic damage he takes the more damage he can do to said mage/priest. But there's no equivalent anti warrior soul for mages

 

[eksdee]

Yep, Warriors are most certainly the strongest calling right now but what I am getting at is a lot of what you state as particularly overpowered can be countered in a group v group situation - at least to some extent. I think the mana drains are the worst thing by far right now, especially when you couple draining someone dry with Transferance from a Domi... ouch.

 

[Punishment]

Well i will certainly be going Rogue as thats what i do and i like playing a daoc bard too so it could be epic lols

 

[BloodOmen]

Yep, Warriors are most certainly the strongest calling right now but what I am getting at is a lot of what you state as particularly overpowered can be countered in a group v group situation - at least to some extent. I think the mana drains are the worst thing by far right now, especially when you couple draining someone dry with Transferance from a Domi... ouch.

Hard to counter champs tbh, if specced right you quite simply cannot CC them and it'd only take 2 assisting champs to drop someone in literally 1-2 seconds flat given how FOTM they are people are rerolling their first 50's already just to get in on the champ action.

I haven't jumped on the champ band wagon tho i'll just stick to my precious VK.

 

[Ctuchik]

I'm gonna keep playing my mage and i'm gonna enjoy it SO much when Trion nerf champions to the ground.

There is one good thing with learning to play an underpowered character. Once they fix it i will be raping everything left right and center

I'm thoroughly gonna enjoy that

 

[eksdee]

I have faith in my Mage! So many specs to try though. Tried out Pyro today at 47 - 2k cinderburst crits wtf.

 

[BloodOmen]

I have faith in my Mage! So many specs to try though. Tried out Pyro today at 47 - 2k cinderburst crits wtf.

aye nasty when you're not locked down I have faith in my 8 second AoE silence on a 15 second cooldown and ability to slow your cast speed by 20% tho

 

[Gahn]

aye nasty when you're not locked down I have faith in my 8 second AoE silence on a 15 second cooldown and ability to slow your cast speed by 20% tho

There's no frigging immunity as far as i can see in tis game, only CD?
They gonna soon realize i do hope that 2x 8 sec aoe Silence on 15 sec CD timed well = no casting at all (if you ever survive it that is) ...

 

[BloodOmen]

There's no frigging immunity as far as i can see in tis game, only CD?
They gonna soon realize i do hope that 2x 8 sec aoe Silence on 15 sec CD timed well = no casting at all (if you ever survive it that is) ...

The main problem is if they nerf it to much it becomes 100% useless, the only real niche VK's have is that they're pure anti-caster - their damage isn't super in comparison with other warrior souls although their mana draining is fairly good (I think they can remove 3-4k mana almost instantly from any target assuming they get close enough/have charge up) grps with common sense will have someone with alot of stuns available just peeling VK's/champs as soon as they rush in (they can pvp trinket the stun but it still gives the target time to back off to a better position)

Now if they nerfed that to the point of where VK's couldnt do fuck all for the very short time they'll be in melee range no one would play them and once again casters will rain supreme mashing their keyboards to get out 1-2.9k hitting spells (I mean cmon, casters can hit for upto 2.9k i've been hit for 2.9k by a caster so why on earth moan about champs? casters can spam that 1-2.9k damage champions cannot due to proper timing having a 1minute cooldown)

Most likely Trion will listen to the whiners and nerf the majority of warrior souls to oblivion tho to appease the mediocre caster babies.


p.s the aoe silence I do agree with, it shouldnt last for 8 seconds... 4-6 perhaps.

 

[Moriath]

sounds like daoc silence and mezz all over again

 

[Punishment]

They didnt have immunity in the beginning either tho ^^

 

[Ctuchik]

There is diminishing returns, at least on stuns. But as a mage that helps me fuck all as i'm dead long before the FIRST stun wear off...

 

[eksdee]

Well, I survived with 2 Warriors on me and a MM shooting at me yesterday when I had proper heals as a Pyro - thereby having reduced health - so it's a totally different game when you aren't pugging. That said, someone in /5 said they met a premade with 4 Warriors who all TS'ed at the same time - meaning around 5k AoE all at once, which killed half the guardians instantly. LOL?! ;<

 

[BloodOmen]

Well, I survived with 2 Warriors on me and a MM shooting at me yesterday when I had proper heals as a Pyro - thereby having reduced health - so it's a totally different game when you aren't pugging. That said, someone in /5 said they met a premade with 4 Warriors who all TS'ed at the same time - meaning around 5k AoE all at once, which killed half the guardians instantly. LOL?! ;<

To be fair MM is abit crap real rogues go Sabo if they want a ranged rogue, sabo charges ignore 50% of player armour + can crit for obscene amounts (they can and have 1 shot casters/clerics and can 2 shot heavy melee) only downside to sabo is the charges can be dispelled iirc but the rate they can throw charges out makes dispelling + healing at the same time unreliable.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Because Guardians are generally shit at working together and there's very little healing on offer, I've mostly been going Chloromancer. Quite fun actually since the healing is done mostly by nuking the enemy. Bit like a ranged caster version of the DoK from WAR. I'm often hitting the top slot in healing in Warfronts even though we still lose most of the time.

Hoping more guildies will get online so we can start having some proper PvP instead of this pug shite

 

[eksdee]

To be fair MM is abit crap real rogues go Sabo if they want a ranged rogue, sabo charges ignore 50% of player armour + can crit for obscene amounts (they can and have 1 shot casters/clerics and can 2 shot heavy melee) only downside to sabo is the charges can be dispelled iirc but the rate they can throw charges out makes dispelling + healing at the same time unreliable.

Well yeah, I am aware of that but you get my point; puging one person jumps on me and I'm dead in 3 GCDs, in an organised group I'm very hard to drop even as a squishcannon.

On the point of Sabos though, they are by far and away the most ridiculous thing I've seen in any MMO - including Warlocks in DAoC and S5 DKs in WoW - I've been one shot by them a horrendous amount of times. Your only hope is to get a full dispel, which is either 5+ GCDs or a 45 second cooldown for a full dispel (Domi, VK, Chloro[?] ones) to survive them and in that time they can just start building up on you again. That said, I was soloing as Chloro yesterday farming cash/planarite and a Sabo tried to gank me - 3 sets of 5 charges later he ran away because 51 point Chloros DON'T DIE. ha.

 

[BloodOmen]

Well yeah, I am aware of that but you get my point; puging one person jumps on me and I'm dead in 3 GCDs, in an organised group I'm very hard to drop even as a squishcannon.

On the point of Sabos though, they are by far and away the most ridiculous thing I've seen in any MMO - including Warlocks in DAoC and S5 DKs in WoW - I've been one shot by them a horrendous amount of times. Your only hope is to get a full dispel, which is either 5+ GCDs or a 45 second cooldown for a full dispel (Domi, VK, Chloro[?] ones) to survive them and in that time they can just start building up on you again. That said, I was soloing as Chloro yesterday farming cash/planarite and a Sabo tried to gank me - 3 sets of 5 charges later he ran away because 51 point Chloros DON'T DIE. ha.

Lol yea sabos are fun, I have a level 14 sabo atm pretty much 2 shotting everything in warfront atm x<

 

[eksdee]

Going to be interesting to see what the first patch notes look like, that's for damn sure!

 

[BloodOmen]

Healers need looking at, apart from Sabo's healers are virtually untouchable once they get that crit immunity from the pvp soul, 6 people beating on a cleric today in The Codex and it wouldn't die (and of those 6 2 of them were champions, rest rogues) not against healers taking a beating but at the moment they can take a very imbalanced amount of damage, the only way i've seen a cleric die (once again not including sabo) is after a void knight has raped its mana and even then they keep getting sly heals off.

 

[Ctuchik]

Void Knights can stomp healers pretty damn fast tho, and so can Dominators.

But part from that.....

 

[BloodOmen]

Void Knights can stomp healers pretty damn fast tho, and so can Dominators.

But part from that.....

dominators are by far more op than vks >< they can strip mana from range fast as fuck, vk's can with unstable reaction but thats on a 45 second cd, dominators can spam theirs and it has a higher range, soon as vks charge anywhere they get insta gibbed without heavy healing