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Dukat

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FFS!

Just when I thought it was safe to try to get back into games, college phones up.

I thought I was done with college by now, but apparently one of my teachers seems to disagree. I handed an assignment in atleast 2 months ago, there were a few problems with it at the time, however after making some changes it was accepted and - I thought - passed.

However, I have just had a phone call saying that the assignment is now not ok, infact, the teacher in question cannot remember exactly what was wrong with it the first time around, but has instead given me a new list of problems with it.

I'm _so_ annoyed with this at the moment. Theres nothing I can do untill I go in tomorow to find out what exactly the teacher doesnt like about it this time around.

Why these new problems were not brought to my attention a few months ago when I last handed the assignment in I do not know. Now I am left with four days to right a problem with an assignment I thought I had finished months ago.

Luckily I never delete college work untill I have the certificate of the course's completion in my hand, so I do still have the work I need to sort out, but god this is a pain in the backside, I thought I was finished and now I have to go back for one last piece of work.

This qualification had better be worth it, over £1000 and two years of non-stop bullshit, red tape and pathetic teaching leaves me wondering if the damn thing is even worth it in the first place.

Sorry about that guys, I really needed a rant. I'm on holiday next weekend, I go away on work a week or so after that, I had hoped to get a few weeks of total lazy bastardness in before I had to go away on work. I'll now most probably need to spend all week sorting this assignment out, then sort myself out ready to go away as soon as I'm back from the holiday.

College, what a joke :mad:
 

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shit dude. have you read through the rules etcetera of your college?
all sounds slightly fishy if one minute it was right the next its not.

not totally sure how college works tbh, i only went for a year. i know in uni it gets marked by teachers but that isnt the final mark. it can be changed by the board if they disagree with it. although our teachers do their best to make sure they marked it correctly.

i never needed college, i only have GCSE and im on a BSc. ahh, how i love boasting about that :D
 

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:-( hang in there bud, it will all be worth it.
 

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tris- said:
i never needed college, i only have GCSE and im on a BSc. ahh, how i love boasting about that :D

an i have no idea what that is :p
 

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Teaching is the last resort for the unambitious.

Although I may not be an expert in the field you're studying, if you need a neutral eye to look over it once it's done, PM me and I'll see what I can do.
 

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shit dude. have you read through the rules etcetera of your college?
all sounds slightly fishy if one minute it was right the next its not.

Yea, the paranoid side of me immediately jumped to the conclusion that the teacher has some kind of a problem with me and is doing this now to try to stitch me up.

I've been trying to think calmly about it, I'm still very angry that its happened, but problem I have is that I cant do much about it now even if that is the case.

what I'm worried about is that whatever I do or say tomorow, the teacher will simply mark whatever changes I do as a fail, which I guess is in thier power to do.

All I can do is go in tomorow and see what happens, this course is one of the new "Higher National Diploma" courses - technically a "Diploma in Higher Education", kinda like two thirds of a Bachelor's degree. I can do another year to top it up to a degree if needed, but I guess that will depend on how it goes when I go and talk to the RAF/Army careers types.

The thing thats getting to me is, there is little more that I can do untill tomorow. I'm half planning out what I will need to do in the worstcase atm, and I guess that would mean re-writing the entire thing from scratch. The thing is, the way the teacher is talking on the phone, its like my assignment is totally wrong, but if that was true I cant see why she didnt tell me that the first time she found problems with it, rather than waiting untill 1 week before the marks need to go away for external verification.

Its all red tape and bullshit, truth be told I cant wait to be out of the place. The sooner the better really, just so annoyed that I need to go back. :mad:
 

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I've been thinking about it a bit, I'm still angry that its happened, but problem I have is that I cant do much about it now even if that is the case.

why the fuck not matey? you need to speak to people in the charge ASAP at all costs, this is your foundations for the rest of your life they are dealing with.

there is a word i have in my head, which applies to a problem like this. but for the life me i dont recall what it is. something to do with not being able to finish CW/do an exam for some reason, and you write to the board with your reason and they decide what to do.
 

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An appeal?

Just do the essay and stop complaining imo, 99% of teachers are awful. Overworked and underpaid they have no incentive to do whats best for the students, unless they are actually passionate about education, which very few are. Not much you can do.
 

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no its not appeal, its a special word ive only seen used in that situation.

god damn it to hell
 

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Amildin said:
An appeal?

Just do the essay and stop complaining imo, 99% of teachers are awful. Overworked and underpaid they have no incentive to do whats best for the students, unless they are actually passionate about education, which very few are. Not much you can do.

Did you actually read his post? he has done the thing once and changed t to suit the comments from the lecturer. If the lecturer has come back again he is being a cock :)
 

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eggy said:
Although I may not be an expert in the field you're studying, if you need a neutral eye to look over it once it's done, PM me and I'll see what I can do.

ahh thanks alot for the offer :) much appreciated

Amildin said:
Just do the essay and stop complaining imo, 99% of teachers are awful. Overworked and underpaid they have no incentive to do whats best for the students, unless they are actually passionate about education, which very few are. Not much you can do.

Why should the fact that they are "overworked and underpaid" mean that I should not be angry when I'm being messed about?

I did the assignment once, two weeks after handing it I get told it needs more doing to it, so I do it again, I do what they want and they accept the changed assignment, two months go by and then suddenly its not ok ?

I've paid over a grand for a course, spent two years of my life doing it and now your saying that 99% of teachers are awful and I should just shut up and accept the fact that due to thier "lack of incentive" to do whats best for me I am put in a position where I could fail??

I've been in college for five years, over three quarters of my life in education, and now the last few years may be wasted because of this, I feel that I have every right to be angry personally.

I made the original post because, as I said, I cannot do anything for the assignment untill I go in tomorow and find out exactly what it wrong with it. So today all I can do is sit around, maybe try to find some of the work from a few months ago and try to re-familiarise myself with the subject.

The thing is, I should've been done with this, just pissed me off to have to go back and sort out something that could, and should, have been sorted months ago :mad:
 

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Dukat said:
ahh thanks alot for the offer :) much appreciated



Why should the fact that they are "overworked and underpaid" mean that I should not be angry when I'm being messed about?

I did the assignment once, two weeks after handing it I get told it needs more doing to it, so I do it again, I do what they want and they accept the changed assignment, two months go by and then suddenly its not ok ?

I've paid over a grand for a course, spent two years of my life doing it and now your saying that 99% of teachers are awful and I should just shut up and accept the fact that due to thier "lack of incentive" to do whats best for me I am put in a position where I could fail??

I've been in college for five years, over three quarters of my life in education, and now the last few years may be wasted because of this, I feel that I have every right to be angry personally.

I made the original post because, as I said, I cannot do anything for the assignment untill I go in tomorow and find out exactly what it wrong with it. So today all I can do is sit around, maybe try to find some of the work from a few months ago and try to re-familiarise myself with the subject.

The thing is, I should've been done with this, just pissed me off to have to go back and sort out something that could, and should, have been sorted months ago :mad:

cant you make some kinda of complaint about it? cant be your fault the teacher has fuckt up, they cant say good for you work an then when there is 1 week left come an say you need to redo it when they have acceptet it in first place...

Really hope it works out for you :(
 

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Ohhh, the plot thickens.

Been talking to college mates on MSN, turns out I wasnt the only one to be phoned up.

A friend of mine just got told that an assignment he did LAST YEAR is not good enough.

I'm at a loss for words atm over this, my mate's been a bit of a "straight A" student (not literally, but almost), for them to do this to him is just disgusting. I mean he might not even have the assignment anymore, its just totally wrong.

sickening tbh.
 

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imo you have all rights to be pissed off. im just glad they can only change my grade instead of making me do a full assignment again.
 

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Maybe the course requirements have changed?

A new mark scheme that has different quotas?

It may suck but thats life, sure you can get the assignment done either way to the new requirements.
 

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Amildin said:
Maybe the course requirements have changed?

A new mark scheme that has different quotas?

It may suck but thats life, sure you can get the assignment done either way to the new requirements.

lmao are you serious, they can hardly receive an assignment, mark it then 1 year later say oh sorry the requirements have changed hahahaha. No one would ever pass cause they are always changing something.
 

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Amildin said:
Maybe the course requirements have changed?

A new mark scheme that has different quotas?
then they would leave the ones who have done it before the change to have it stay as it is, and put people who havent already done the assignment/course on the new regime etc...
 

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normally you are given the marking scheme to help you write the CW.

at least for us anyway :/
 

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normally you are given the marking scheme to help you write the CW.

at least for us anyway :/

Yea, this is how they do it at our college also afaik. No idea how or why they have done this, could well be a change in the marking scheme but tbh doing it 1 week before they want the grades is a little bit silly. Especially when the deadlines for the stuff they are changing are 2-3 months to a year old.

Just annoyed with it. A little less pissed off now I guess, but tomorow is going to be a pain in the backside, I just hope that I can it sorted in the time I have left. If not, things may well get very ugly very fast.
 

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all sounding shitter by the minute in that case. if it was me id be complaining.
 

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heres my fucking rant now.

i just recieved an email saying i havent handed in some work. except i have a reciept here from the assignment office showing i handed it in on the 11th of this month, dead line is 17th.
and it was hand written so if i have to hand it in again im going to have fucking write it all again.
 

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Ouch!

If you've got the reciept you should be ok though? A teacher once tried to bollock me for not handing in some work, even though I'd handed it in late I got a receipt for it, so the teacher had to accept it.

Hang onto that reciept! I'd not let em take it off of you, make them photo copy it or something if they want em, as long as you have those receipts in your hand you should be ok.

ouch though, hand written assignments going missing :(

Just an update on my situation, went in today and found out I have to rip out all of my research for the assignment I handed in a while ago, wasnt huge, around 600 words out of 1500, but the actual researching side itself will be a bit of a bitch to get done for thursday. :mad: ah well, such is life... I cant wait to get this out of the way and be totally finished though, hating education atm.
 

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the word i was thinking of was "mitigating circumstances". popped into my head yesterday all of a sudden.

maybe try get an extension under mitigating circumstances (reason: teacher is a mongaloid)
 

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when I was doing my a levels I had a peice of coursework for business studies and it turned out the teacher forgot to add up two pages of it so I was left witha high B when I could have gotten a high A.

I noticed it and he basically said to me, theres nothing really you can do about it now, its too late.
 

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that sounds shite :/

one of my tutors missed out marking my reference page so i only got 70%. i banged on about it and he remarked and ended with 75%.
its never too late. the only final mark is the one the board says, not the one the tutor says.
 

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It might be the case that your work has been selected for external marking and now they are panicking that their marking scheme isnt up to standard !
 

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tris- said:
the word i was thinking of was "mitigating circumstances". popped into my head yesterday all of a sudden.

maybe try get an extension under mitigating circumstances (reason: teacher is a mongaloid)

ahh yea, the university that is running my course (not the college I am doing it at) handles mitigating circumstances differently to most other places.

Supposedly the way they handle it is that if you cant get a certain assignment in for a certain date, you have to just get it done as soon as you can, then hope the university accepts your reasons for not getting it in, if they dont accept it you're basically up shit creek without a paddle.

Apparently they're really strict and picky on what they accept. Not getting something in because your computer died is not an acceptable reason to them, infact most other hardware/software related trouble they wont accept - we had a case at our college where the network was down for the entire week leading up to the handin date, so we couldnt get access to our areas to print out the assignment, luckily we had backups at home, but we were told at the time that if we didnt get them in, the "excuse" of not being able to access our work because college's network is shite would not be acceptable.

Funnily enough one of the reasons they did accept was that someone was in prison for the handin date. they actually accepted the persons assignment with those mitigating circumstances.

Sounds screwy to me, just like everything else I've been told about college. Just going to do the best I can today, hopefully get it finished and hand it in tomorow, then *hopefully* that will be the end of it and I'll be finished, though I wont hold my breath this time :)
 

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