Reporting From World of Warcraft

[Kalba]

As some of you know the closed beta of wow started awhile ago, and I as for one got in.

The game is pretty much what has been promised, a mmo where you wont have to make hard decisions at very start and respeccing is free and you can do it as much as you want, like unlearning trade skills or talents.

There's a lot of quests, and actually you dont exp daoc like killing mobs, but more with questing. They vary from small tasks into 10 step long "elite" quests.

Everything has been made really well, but still... a hook is missing... Then again, it's only beta. (Or only me )

 

[Pippic]

the unlearning skills part is goin out in retail tho, thats just for testing

 

[Rulke]

There's a lot of quests, and actually you dont exp daoc like killing mobs, but more with questing. They vary from small tasks into 10 step long "elite" quests.

Aye, uber quests like "Kill 10 spiders" or "kill x til you get y randomly dropped items".

 

[enigma]

Aye, uber quests like "Kill 10 spiders" or "kill x til you get y randomly dropped items".

Yeah, that's the only quest type there.

 

[Rulke]

Sorry, I forgot the "take item x to place y" and "kill named mob in place z" and not forgetting "go to game shop for refund"

 

[[AB]Shirtan]

At higher levels you get more fun quests like Rescue from the northwatch i believe its called, starts inside a fort where you are send to kill 3 different people in 3 different towers. Inside one of these towers u find a prisoner and then you have to escort him out of the fort and see that he doesnt get killed, imo that was a very funny quest.

 

[Raven]

bit like a cross between daoc master levells, normal daoc quests and below lvl 20 kill task/delivery quests then? oh and extra pve... oh wait a minute its just like daoc but with cartoon graphics and no rvr.

 

[Rulke]

Don't get me wrong, questing is a far more effective way to level than in DAoC, but anyone expecting WoW PvE to be drastically different from DAoC's is gonna be disappointed imo.

Also I only tryed mage tbh and I had no incentive to join groups since it was slower leveling than soloing. That and grouping with yanks made me cry

 

[Aloca]

Don't get me wrong, questing is a far more effective way to level than in DAoC, but anyone expecting WoW PvE to be drastically different from DAoC's is gonna be disappointed imo.

Also I only tryed mage tbh and I had no incentive to join groups since it was slower leveling than soloing. That and grouping with yanks made me cry

What i understood grping only realy pay of when doing quests together.

 

[[NO]Magmatic]

I liked the stress test, played it for a couple of days... Its funny that some of the skills you learn, you pay for in cash, instead of 'skill points'...

Played a Warlock, Shaman, Paladin and a Warrior... Where I think I found shaman the most fun... The cartoony bit isnt 'that' bad, you'll get used to it rather quick, or at least I did...

You cant expect the leveling grind to go away in any game that comes out, if you do expect it to go away, I'd suggest keep playing daoc...

But WoW does have RvR, its alliance vs horde... And there are several area's where you can fight each other... There are also quests based in these area's and they give more XP... Also a rank system a bit like DAOC, but not totally the same as the realm points/ranks that we have...

From my understanding, its even possible to capture capital city's, although I'm not sure how that would work...

Also, unlike daoc, killing lower lvl players is punished by dishonour points, too many will make you lose all sorts of stuff...

Think there's an upcomming open beta soon... Which is free, I'd say try it out... I myself found it better then expected...

 

[[e]]

pfft...

wow is a crapy DAOC clone without the elements that makes DAOC great. Ppl will soon see just how much it sucks...

 

[enigma]

Sorry, I forgot the "take item x to place y" and "kill named mob in place z" and not forgetting "go to game shop for refund"

The point was that you made it out to be only one quest type, which is wrong. There's more questtypes, e.g the wineyard quest where you have to bring out the grapes to the owner. That's another type which isn't that common. There's atleast more variation and not everything is as cumbersome as it's in daoc. Imo.

Since you've only played a mage and seems to have focused around levelling, you've seen a very limited part of the game world aswell. And I doubt that they have revealed everything that can be done questwise as early as whatever level you are.

The point with grouping is that you can do tougher quests, thus get more xp. You won't need to 'fill up the bar' with additional grinding. Or atleast not to the extent you'd have to when solo. Your levelling progression is much more controlled through quests than it is in daoc. Which is something I like.

 

[Ceryseth]

Hmmmmm.....aint this a bad idea....
Also, unlike daoc, killing lower lvl players is punished by dishonour points, too many will make you lose all sorts of stuff...
So i make a new char and run into rvr and atack high lvls....and if he kills me he gets a big dishonour but if he dosent he gets PWNED by a low lvl....what to do

 

[Vindicator]

Hmmmmm.....aint this a bad idea....
Also, unlike daoc, killing lower lvl players is punished by dishonour points, too many will make you lose all sorts of stuff...
So i make a new char and run into rvr and atack high lvls....and if he kills me he gets a big dishonour but if he dosent he gets PWNED by a low lvl....what to do

Nah if attack him first your fair game ;>. It's to protect the lower lvls that just want to get by without being squished by the ubah high lvls

 

[Lothandar]

Also, unlike daoc, killing lower lvl players is punished by dishonour points, too many will make you lose all sorts of stuff...

Of course lowbees can attack me and I can't even protect myself.


Else, I get dishonour points and lose this/that/etc. I didn't find anything about "if a lowbee attacks first, no dishonour point" bit yet.

 

[enigma]

Of course lowbees can attack me and I can't even protect myself.


Else, I get dishonour points and lose this/that/etc. I didn't find anything about "if a lowbee attacks first, no dishonour point" bit yet.

Who said the pvp system is done? I don't know if that is how it is, but neither do you. There's a "suggest" button ingame, that's where people suggest things. If things aren't making sense, they use that button.

 

[Brilliance]

I just hope this game won't have many "epic, heroic battles"......

The I'll play it for sure and leave the spaniard infils zerg the new blood of daoc

I'm tired of getting mezzed by stealth classes and fluffying around the grass on a cloud not being able to do anything. ToA humiliated the game. QQ at me being an addict....

 

[Rulke]

The point was that you made it out to be only one quest type, which is wrong. There's more questtypes, e.g the wineyard quest where you have to bring out the grapes to the owner. That's another type which isn't that common. There's atleast more variation and not everything is as cumbersome as it's in daoc. Imo.

Since you've only played a mage and seems to have focused around levelling, you've seen a very limited part of the game world aswell. And I doubt that they have revealed everything that can be done questwise as early as whatever level you are.

The point with grouping is that you can do tougher quests, thus get more xp. You won't need to 'fill up the bar' with additional grinding. Or atleast not to the extent you'd have to when solo. Your levelling progression is much more controlled through quests than it is in daoc. Which is something I like.

ToA has 100 new "interesting" quests, called MLs. Most people whine about them, but then say the same thing is a selling point for a new MMORPG?

 

[Imon]

Sorry, I forgot the "take item x to place y" and "kill named mob in place z" and not forgetting "go to game shop for refund"

why don´t you just go and play CS?

 

[Driwen]

btw as far as I know, blizzard hasnt put their final idea of PvP into their beta yet. However they might have done that by now (off course it can still change, but the pvp in beta 2 months wasnt exactly the one they had planned). So you might be able to comment on the pvp, but it is still in beta and there might be made some changes to it yet (like the dishonour thing).

 

[Danya]

TBH I'm going to play it before deciding if it's crap or good, unlike some here.

 

[rvn]

pfft...

wow is a crapy DAOC clone without the elements that makes DAOC great. Ppl will soon see just how much it sucks...

or they will see how much daoc sucks ;o

 

[enigma]

ToA has 100 new "interesting" quests, called MLs. Most people whine about them, but then say the same thing is a selling point for a new MMORPG?

What is the new selling point? Do you believe it's the obviously boring quests they are referring to? I am bored shitless of daoc and mmorpgs generally, because it takes time to do everything. What I was uncertain of was how wow would handle timesinks, if they would add alot of them or if they actually made gameplay not require the better half of an entire day.
As a sceptic bastard I know put it:

"I actually managed to find fun within an hour."

That it's possible he found it fun because the gameworld is new, is ofcourse true, but you'd have to be blind to not see the vastly better content and how it's handled in the lowbie zones of wow than what it is in daoc.

Yeah, you can draw lines back to daoc and say that this can be compared to this..and this to this, etc. But it won't be the same because it's not. It's a new MMORPG and it doesn't work like daoc. In daoc you move out in the zones and kill random mobs occasionally doing a quest(if you cba at all?), but never again since there's no incentive to do so unless it's that one item you need to get your 'template done'. In wow you can level by just doing quests if you like, that isn't possible in daoc.

Ofcourse, if you're bored so shitless of levelling and mmorpgs that you do nothing but play solitaire and minesweaper when you're infront of your pc, you won't like wow either, but this system seems to work better than what daoc currently does.

 

[enigma]

sceptical bastard

hrm.

 

[Tijl]

Of course lowbees can attack me and I can't even protect myself.


Else, I get dishonour points and lose this/that/etc. I didn't find anything about "if a lowbee attacks first, no dishonour point" bit yet.

And what if you find a low level char soloing, shoot him till he's 5% and watch him die on a mob?

 

[Painbringer]

info on some high lvl content

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/raid-article.shtml

note it says they dont intend for a long level grind so when you play the game and you seem to be levelling fast don't be too worried, it's supposed to be that way

 

[Chopke]

Nah if attack him first your fair game ;>. It's to protect the lower lvls that just want to get by without being squished by the ubah high lvls

That is how most people agree it should be, but as yet, it is not implemented in the Beta yet.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-pvp&t=21988&p=1#post21988

You do get a sign saying you get dishonor points, but someone in the above thread said that they didn't actualy notice anything changing in their honor/dishonor score..

 

[Ning]

I'm also testing WoW. Now I'm sure about a thing : DAoC won't die because of WoW

 

[Jobil]

if WoW involvees more than max 5 Fed-Ex quests I'll leave it in the store tbh... I have Fed'Ex'd in every damn game I've played thus far, I'm tired and weary of being the mailman when I'm supposed to be a mighty hero... Postman Pat can't be that expensive

 

[Dukat]

Though I know one day I'll have to leave DAoC, I doubt it will be anytime in the forseeable future. When I began looking at other MMORPG's a while ago I realised that when the time comes and I have to move on, I wont find anything like DAoC again.

Since this was my first MMORPG, I know its always going to have a certain appeal and I will judge all future MMO's against it, but I truely doubt that there is anything like DAoC out there atm.

The sheer feeling of cameraderie between the other players in the realm is the thing I will miss the most.

Dispite this fact, I dont think that ppl should be as hard on the other MMO's as they have been in this thread, afterall other people like different things, and theres nothing wrong with that....

right?


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