Regarding Eirenes proc

[Arnor]

Bottom line, eirenes proc is on the same line as asd and alb necros @ si launch. Its not technically illegal, but its very lame to exploit the crappy coding.
To further specify with eirenes im gonna do an example that someone mentioned about "what if the enemy attacks me and causes the armor to proc, is that being lame of me?"


If a bm is hitting you causing your armor to proc, THAT is not your fault, and THAT is not lame behaviour from you. It is not your fault that mythic made this bug, it is not your fault the bm attacks you, you cant be expected to take off your hauberk because of retarded programming.
What you can do is let the haub proc when it does, not try to get it to proc by various methods.

Conclusion: Using mobs or other sources that you intentionally use to get your hauberk to proc in order to take advantage of the bugged proc is not technically cheating but it is very lame. It wont get you banned but it sure as hell wont get you any respect either.

 

[gunner440]

who wants respect when you can have rps

 

[enigma]

What does the proc ACTUALLY do now and how WILL it work in the next patch?

edit: I want numbers.

 

[Divinia]

I reckon it absorbs 100%(?) magic damage

 

[Ilienwyn]

Let's not forget pre-La nerf damage, pre-nerf savages all other things that people abuse despite knowing it? This is not much better but probably only one available to all realms. And wtf difference does it make with 1 person doing it when in other cases everyone did?


Only thing you achieve with all this whine is more people getting and trying to abuse it too as it seems it won't get any response from Mythic/Goa...

Edit:

I reckon it absorbs 100%(?) magic damage

It blocks half and heals for equal. So in a sense you do half damage which is healed right away so 0 damage. Only crits can actually damage from what I understood?

 

[AmeinoN]

Bottom line, eirenes proc is on the same line as asd and alb necros @ si launch. Its not technically illegal, but its very lame to exploit the crappy coding.
To further specify with eirenes im gonna do an example that someone mentioned about "what if the enemy attacks me and causes the armor to proc, is that being lame of me?"


If a bm is hitting you causing your armor to proc, THAT is not your fault, and THAT is not lame behaviour from you. It is not your fault that mythic made this bug, it is not your fault the bm attacks you, you cant be expected to take off your hauberk because of retarded programming.
What you can do is let the haub proc when it does, not try to get it to proc by various methods.

Conclusion: Using mobs or other sources that you intentionally use to get your hauberk to proc in order to take advantage of the bugged proc is not technically cheating but it is very lame. It wont get you banned but it sure as hell wont get you any respect either.

you are just jealous for not having eirenes i think ,otherwise you are just saying bs
retarded programming as you said and thats enough.

 

[LordjOX]

Lots of things are lame

 

[Spamb0t]

What does the proc ACTUALLY do now and how WILL it work in the next patch?

edit: I want numbers.

it absorbs pretty much all the magic dmg(unsure if it works for melee too) done to u for the full duration of the proc(10mins) while its supposed to only block first attack on u and then disapear

 

[Arnor]

you are just jealous for not having eirenes i think ,otherwise you are just saying bs
retarded programming as you said and thats enough.

ok...

im gonna go out on a limb here and make a WILD guess...
You have eirenes?

secondly, i am not jealous, and why am I just saying bs if im not jealous?
Do I suddenly make sense if I become jealous?
Now ameinon, you obviously dont strike me as the sharpest bowlingball in the shed, but can you please tell me why I would be jealous of something that I myself consider to be very cheesy and lame? And ontop of that, why the hell would i care if i could be spell-damage-immune? Its not fun to play when you are uber. Equal, challenging fights is why I play daoc, not to wtfrox and get a million lwrp. (hence chanter pre la-nerf, zerk post la-nerf, druid in savage era)

But go ahead, try to justify it to yourself, very few are as easily decieved as you&bloodthorn.

Let's not forget pre-La nerf damage, pre-nerf savages all other things that people abuse despite knowing it? This is not much better but probably only one available to all realms. And wtf difference does it make with 1 person doing it when in other cases everyone did?

jesus
fucking
christ

Now, firstly, la and savages are/were VERY different.
The problem with those lines were that mythic coded them to do alot of damage(as you can see in the 1.52 patchnotes where it says "DOUBLED basegrowth on LA styles"), only a while later did they see that it was too much damage, which in turn got toned down.

The proc on eirenes does not DO what it is intended to do, because it absorbs everything and doesnt get used up. What mythic does next patch isnt "hmm, eirenes is too powerful, we gotta nerf that" its "umm, the eirenes proc is not working the way we made it to, we gotta fix that"

(Damage Conversion: A portion of any spell damage done to the target is converted to heal the target instead. The spell is then dispelled.
Value: 50%
Target: Self
Casting time: instant
Spell has a chance of casting when this armor is hit by an enemy. )

Does it here say: Will annul any dmg from any spell except crits and dots and wont be dispelled after first spell taken and last for 10minutes?



Ok, so one person only uses the eirenes proc by getting mobs to hit him? right..

 

[AmeinoN]

Arnor really read what you said "retarded programming" -you dont have the right or anyone else to judge a guy and whine so much for a bug(which is not his fault) that will be fixed .
Its boring to say again the same words zZz ..<"retarded programming"> as you said.
and yer if someone hits me and eirenes proc ,i dont have in my mind to cancel the effect , thats lame i guess

 

[Ilienwyn]

ok, la and savages was bad programming and this wasn't bad programming? wtf?!

 

[Zeratuhl]

ok, la and savages was bad programming and this wasn't bad programming? wtf?!

whole Albion was bad coding imho

 

[vintervargen]

arnor, you are forgetting these poor albs have been zerged and owned (due to relics and OP classes/setups!) for 3 years now.

if they can use bugs to finally be able to win, let them! its all fair imo

 

[noaim]

Arnor really read what you said "retarded programming" -you dont have the right or anyone else to judge a guy and whine so much for a bug(which is not his fault) that will be fixed .
Its boring to say again the same words zZz ..<"retarded programming"> as you said.
and yer if someone hits me and eirenes proc ,i dont have in my mind to cancel the effect , thats lame i guess

He said in his first post that if it procs in a fight its not lame, noone can tell/ask you to not use the hauberk. To make it proc is however lame.

To the person that compared it to LA/Savages: Radar is fine, because long ago LA was overpowered, agreed? To jump into wall on purpose and kill from there was also fine, since after all, savages were really overpowered for a while. And lets not forget that windowdragging was totally ok, since in the beginning of daoc, casters pwned all.

Conclusion is: You cant justify bugabusing by referring to something that was on the board 1+ year(s) ago. To try to do so, only makes you appear pretty sad yourself.

 

[Lothandar]

Arnor really read what you said "retarded programming" -you dont have the right or anyone else to judge a guy and whine so much for a bug(which is not his fault) that will be fixed .
Its boring to say again the same words zZz ..<"retarded programming"> as you said.
and yer if someone hits me and eirenes proc ,i dont have in my mind to cancel the effect , thats lame i guess

Be careful with "yer" , it means "your"

 

[Mithradir]

arnor, you are forgetting these poor albs have been zerged and owned (due to relics and OP classes/setups!) for 3 years now.

if they can use bugs to finally be able to win, let them! its all fair imo

Ok go take a relic now , or even better watch your last one since i dont think it last for long


About eirenes proc. A proc is a proc. Badly designed or buged? Tell it whatever u like. But atm this is it and leave with that. It sucks for us casters when we nuke nuke nuke and do 20 damage max but whining all the time is worst. The next patch will come and they ll propably fix it. Until then just let the tanks dealing them

End of story.

 

[Arnor]

ok, la and savages was bad programming and this wasn't bad programming? wtf?!

la and savages was bad decisionmaking, it was not bad programming.

 

[Chrstffr]

hi arn0r !

 

[Iorlas]

Bloody long post Arnor...happy christmas
ps o yea too stoned to read it all i agree

 

[Arnor]

hi arn0r !

ello mate! shaman-school is still availible

 

[scorge]

there are so many bugs and not just with Eirenes, i have seen Mids, Hibs and Albs abusing it, yes it is a bit lame, its not as if only 1 realm has access to it.

Shroom and pets nuking you when you are out of LoS or through walls is lame, are we going to say that pet classes shouldn't use them?

If you come across someone using Eirenes and the proc is active, just Stun and Run.

I dont like it any more than anybody else, if it pisses you off that much take a break till they patch it, or live with it

 

[Iorlas]

Funny thing about it all is that, the guy was using hand of god buff nothing to do with eriens.

 

[Ilienwyn]

arnor, you are forgetting these poor albs have been zerged and owned (due to relics and OP classes/setups!) for 3 years now.

if they can use bugs to finally be able to win, let them! its all fair imo

well, you used buggs to win too

 

[scorge]

Funny thing about it all is that, the guy was using hand of god buff nothing to do with eriens.

you lose hand of god though when you hit attack or cast, you dont have to damage anything it breaks straight away. You can move and jump like an idiot, well as long as your in range. Only thing its usefull for is planting GT's

 

[Arnor]

Funny thing about it all is that, the guy was using hand of god buff nothing to do with eriens.

am i talking about that ONE incident where bloodthorn used HoG?
no im not.

 

[Ilienwyn]

you lose hand of god though when you hit attack or cast, you dont have to damage anything it breaks straight away. You can move and jump like an idiot, well as long as your in range. Only thing its usefull for is planting GT's

I have used it in OF once or twice when mids/hibs where camping atk and it was a blast having them trying to kill me!

 

[enigma]

Ok, so the proc works against magic damage. It says "spell damage", so he should still take melee damage?

And if I understand correctly, he's still going to be able to pull mobs on himself and the proc will go off after it's patched aswell? And that part is probably working as intended since there's a downside about having mobs attacking yourself(albeit not that big in his case ).

 

[rvn]

Let's not forget pre-La nerf damage, pre-nerf savages all other things that people abuse despite knowing it? This is not much better but probably only one available to all realms. And wtf difference does it make with 1 person doing it when in other cases everyone did?


Only thing you achieve with all this whine is more people getting and trying to abuse it too as it seems it won't get any response from Mythic/Goa...

Edit:



It blocks half and heals for equal. So in a sense you do half damage which is healed right away so 0 damage. Only crits can actually damage from what I understood?

prenerf reaver rr5 ability, prenerf smite cleric, prenerf cabalist stunning pet, prenerf theurgist chainstunning pet to mention a few that albs have exploited too :>

 

[enigma]

prenerf reaver rr5 ability, prenerf smite cleric, prenerf cabalist stunning pet, prenerf theurgist chainstunning pet to mention a few that albs have exploited too :>

And people still whine more about this issue, and mostly about one person.

 

[Naffets]

For the guy who said i want numbers :

[23:56:54] 352 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[23:56:54] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:56:55] You shoot Laron with your bow and hit for 39 (+8) damage!
[23:56:55] A barrier absorbs 39 damage of your attack!
[23:56:55] 218 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[23:56:55] You hit Laron for 3 extra damage!
[23:56:55] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:56:55] You will now automatically release your shot and reload.
[23:56:57] 335 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[23:56:57] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:56:58] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:56:58] You shoot Laron with your bow and hit for 38 (+7) damage!
[23:56:58] A barrier absorbs 38 damage of your attack!
[23:56:58] 219 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[23:56:58] You hit Laron for 4 extra damage!
[23:56:58] You will now automatically release your shot and reload.
[23:56:59] British shoots Laron with her bow!
[23:57:00] 357 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[23:57:00] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:57:01] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:57:01] You will now automatically release your shot and reload.
[23:57:01] Laron blocks your attack!
[23:57:02] British shoots Laron with her bow!
[23:57:03] 345 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.

Basically, it rox

And in melee :

[00:02:25] You perform your Wasp's Sting perfectly. (+43)
[00:02:25] 132 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[00:02:25] You attack Celinka with your sword and hit for 14 (-24) damage!
[00:02:25] A barrier absorbs 7 damage of your attack!
[00:02:25] 124 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[00:02:25] You hit Celinka for 3 extra damage!
[00:02:25] Bonds contrict around you, crushing your body and impeding your movement!
[00:02:25] Celinka hits you for 27 damage.
[00:02:25] Bonds contrict around you, crushing your body and impeding your movement!
[00:02:25] Celinka hits you for 32 damage.
[00:02:25] 69 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[00:02:25] You attack Celinka with your adze and hit for 8 (-43) damage!
[00:02:25] A barrier absorbs 4 damage of your attack!
[00:02:25] 82 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[00:02:25] You hit Celinka for 2 extra damage!
[00:02:25] 1 damage was blocked by the defender's magic shielding.
[00:02:25] Celinka is bleeding!
[00:02:25] You hit Celinka for 1 damage!
[00:02:26] You prepare to perform a Hornet's Sting!
[00:02:26] 13 damage was blocked by the defender's magic shielding.
[00:02:26] Celinka's wounds begin to bleed!
[00:02:26] You hit Celinka for 2 damage!
[00:02:27] British attacks Celinka with her axe!
[00:02:27] British attacks Celinka with her dagger!
[00:02:27] A vampiric mist is called forth from beyond.
[00:02:27] The vampiric mist attacks Celinka and is blocked!
[00:02:27] You perform your Hornet's Sting perfectly. (+72)
[00:02:27] 173 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[00:02:27] You attack Celinka with your sword and hit for 20 (-31) damage!
[00:02:27] A barrier absorbs 10 damage of your attack!
[00:02:27] 124 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[00:02:27] You hit Celinka for 2 extra damage!
[00:02:27] Celinka can't attack as fast as normal!
[00:02:27] You prepare to perform a Wasp's Sting!
[00:02:28] You are no longer sticking your target.
[00:02:29] British attacks Celinka with her axe!
[00:02:29] You perform your Wasp's Sting perfectly. (+50)
[00:02:29] 155 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[00:02:29] You attack Celinka with your sword and hit for 17 (-28) damage!
[00:02:29] A barrier absorbs 8 damage of your attack!
[00:02:29] 124 damage was blocked by the defender's shielding.
[00:02:29] You hit Celinka for 3 extra damage!

etc. etc.

Fight went on for ages, fz was used and everything, but the proc ended up absorbing 2k damage in total And she won

Hope this helps

Edit: Apparently this proc is only magic, so correct me if the above is incorrect.
Oh and i've just checked the whole fight and it absorbed 3326 damage. No mobs or anything were used to make this proc either