Regarding Cloudsong encounter, possible bug found.

Docs

Fledgling Freddie
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Hello, I have had some major problems getting cloudsong credit.

I posted this to help ppl who might have artifact encounter problems.

I have killed him well over 10 times in different scenarios withour getting
cred on my sorc, where as I got cred on the first time with my ice wiz.

In the end I took the unactivated Cloudsong from the sorcs backpack and
put it in my vault. And what do you know, I got credit on the wery first try after that.

The cloak did not drop, credit was rewarded.
And tbh, I dont like them guys at rightnow after this.
Ill include the rightnow text for your amusement.

Since I heard this problem was occuring on another encounter as well I reckon
its safest to never ever carry a unactivated artifact in your backpack if you
want credit on said encounter. Thats Mythics "ingame mechanics" for you.

Customer (*my name*) 11/23/2004 10:33 PM
Hello, I have a problem.

I am having problems getting credit on the Cloudsong encounter on
my sorcerer with the name "Doxs"

To sum things up.

1. I have aquired the Cloudsong quest and I am on step #3 - Speak with Eremai to trade the music box for the cloak.

2. I always carry a music box in my inventory so that I can give it to him.

3. I have done the encounter more than 10 times on this character and i still have not got credit for it.

4. I was in a BG that killed him about 30-40 minutes ago. The cloak dropped but I did not recieve credit.

5. Description of what usually happens:

I talk to Eremai and he asks for the music box, I hand him the music box.
He tells me I will have to meet him in battle for the cloak.
We attack and kill him. I dont get cred and I am still on step #3 of the Cloudsong quest in my journal.

I have killed him in the following scenarios:

I have been in a group and no BG was up, both with and without having the cloak drop. No credit.
I have been in a BG with several groups, both with and without cloak drop. No credit.
I have been in a group where some people were outside the bg. And still no credit.
I have been in a single group with a BG and no credit.

On several occations I have been the only one not to get credit in the BG or group I was in.

A side note is that I did this encounter on my ice wizard "Docs" and he got credit the first time he did it.

I just heard a interesting thing regarding todays completion of the encounter. Several others in the BG did not get credit on the encounter either.

Please advise, Im getting tired of being the only one in the BG not to get credit.

Response (CM_EN) 11/25/2004 12:47 PM
Greetings,

Thank you for the report, we will investigate the reported issue with this encounter. We cannot grant encounter credit however, to some degree we have to rely on the game mechanics as they are implemented. We focus our efforts on identifying and, when possible, fixing the problems.

Yours sincerely,
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European Dark Age of Camelot Community Manager

Customer (*My name*) 11/25/2004 08:36 PM
I have not had the chance to do the encounter again since I submitted
the bug report.

I have however already DONE the encounter more than 10 times.

IF I am doing something wrong please let me know so I can get credit.

I do not think that it is wery likely that I have done anything to
NOT get credit since I have done it with other characters and gotten credit on the wery first try.

Please dont give me the following again:
"Greetings,

Thank you for the report, we will investigate the reported issue with this encounter. We cannot grant encounter credit however, to some degree we have to rely on the game mechanics as they are implemented. We focus our efforts on identifying and, when possible, fixing the problems.

Yours sincerely,
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European Dark Age of Camelot Community Manager"

Give me something useful to work with instead.
The above is more or less telling me that I will have to trust the ingame mechanics.
If I am not able to complete a quest is that not a bug?
IF not, then tell me what a bug is?

Give me hints on what I might be missing, what might have gone wrong etc. How do I ensure credit is given etc.
What gives credit, are there any checks done before credit is granted?
If I carry the unactivated Cloudsong on me, will it stop me from recieving credit?

Do you need any additional information from me that might help you
solve this for me?

Thank you in advance for you time.

Sincerely

*My name*

Response (CM_EN) 11/26/2004 02:16 PM
Hello again,

I have investigated this matter and found no problems with your character, your characters quest journal or the way you do the quest.

You will simply have to keep trying.

Good luck on getting credit!

Yours sincerely,
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European Dark Age of Camelot Community Manager

Customer (*My name*) 11/26/2004 07:16 PM
Well, that was a lot of help...

Can you atleast answer me one thing.
I recall sometime back that there was a bug that would prevent
a character from getting credit on a artifact encounter if he
had the unactivated artifact in his backpack.

Is the abowe a possible issue?

Customer (*My name*) 11/28/2004 04:52 AM
In my eyes I have found a bug here.
When I did the encounter without the unactivated Cloudsong in
my backpack I got credit on the first try.

Might want to tell people that becouse honestly, Im quite pissed at
the lack of help on this matter.

I now have the thing activated and I pray I will not have to endure
this on any other artifact quest.

So to make it work, put your unactivated artifacts in your vault.
 

Chilly

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The encoutner isnt rigged to give credit every time, it might well be that you just got really unlucky and the game hcose the time you have the CS in your vault to give you credit :(
 

Docs

Fledgling Freddie
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I actually dont think so, I remember another artifact that had this same
problem, that is why I think it is a bug.

I cannot remember witch one that was, but I distinctly remember
it from some patchnote somewhere.
 

Tilda

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Not all encounters give credit every time...
Just the same as CS dosnt drop every time...
So what do you do, whine to GoA that its a bug when infact everythings fine and you've just been unlucky.
 

Flimgoblin

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worth testing that with the unactivated artifact - interesting theory :)
 

Temmie

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Took me about 12 tries to get credit and I had the cloak in my vault for most of those tries :touch:
 

Vindicator

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Same thing happened to me on Battler. Was lucky got it after third time I did it. I didnt have battler on me at that point either.
 

Docs

Fledgling Freddie
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Tilda said:
Not all encounters give credit every time...
Just the same as CS dosnt drop every time...
So what do you do, whine to GoA that its a bug when infact everythings fine and you've just been unlucky.

I know they dont drop everytime.

But to be honest, If you look at the odds of this happening by chance alone they are fairly low.

And besides, last I heard you were supposed to get credit on a quest you completed.
I have only tried this on my own two chars and so far my theory is supported.

Where did you get the information that you were not supposed to be able
to complete the Cloudsong quest everytime?

Prove me wrong if you like, but dont call me a whiner.

Heck what do you know, this might actually help someone like it helped me.
 

Temmie

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goa told me you only get credit when the cloak drops which is obviously wrong :p
 

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