Redundancy

[Will]

So, I'm going to probably be made redundant in the next year. I've worked here for 5 years...what should I expect to receive, and what is the minimum I can legally be given?

I'm working for Telewest at the moment, and NTL have a call centre 30 minutes drive away at Bellshill...can they just offer me a transfer there instead, and do I have to accept it or can I take redundancy instead?

 

[Will]

P.S. I'm open to job offers.

 

[Chilly]

If you are the only one they are sacking, then they dont have to give you dick all. If they are sacking more than (90?) people they have to give a minimum of 6 months salary.

Now, when my mum got sacked due to downsizing, she got given a fucktonne of wonga, but that's cos she was there from early days and instrumental in the company existing. If you have a big role and have done well and not pissed off too many people, you can expect a fair sized wad (9months maybe).

If you were a random minion, you'll get whatever they can get away with, most likely.

Good luck, and lets hope it doesnt come to you getting sacked.

 

[Gat_Decor]

Take a look at your contract to see if there is any mention of relocation and if there is, within what timescale you should be notified of a move also distance too.

My last but one employer closed our depot and transferred me and one other within a week to a location 40 miles away, offering the others redundancy, i didn't want to move and asked for redundancy but they said no, so i took the transfer handed my notice in and took them to court for constructive dismissal using the above as my defence.

 

[Will]

120 of us. At least. They aren't just removing me, they will be shutting this whole call centre. I'm looking for enough to pay the mortgage while I look for another job.

 

[Jupitus]

Sorry Will, but I think Chilly has overstated the amount (unless Scottish law is different)... I'm no expert, but saw figures recently relating to someone here being made redundant and the legal minimum statutory redundancy was roughly 1 week's pay for every year of service, although in that case there was a more generous amount on offer due to the circumstances involved (can't say more).

I'd get in touch with the citizen's advice bureau to be sure pal... good luck!

 

[Mobius]

Umm. Can you upgrade me to 10mb before you quit?

 

[Lazarus]

Will,

They cannot make YOU redundant - they make your JOB POSITION redundant.

Therefore, if they are to relocate you then it will be to a different position (probably the same job in the end tho)

Wanna see if there are any jobs there for me too ?

 

[DaGaffer]

If you are the only one they are sacking, then they dont have to give you dick all. If they are sacking more than (90?) people they have to give a minimum of 6 months salary.

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Where do you get that from? Its nonsense. There's a statutory maximum redundancy of £8100, plus the months' of whatever notice period you have. An element of this is tax free, but the amount is dependent on the terms in your contract of employment. More info here.

As for alternative employment within NTL, they have an obligation to help you find something internal if there's anything appropriate, but you have no obligation to take it; there's usually a consultation period where this goes on and you can make your choices.

Chances are that a merged NTL/Telewest won't simply get rid of the Telewest call centres and keep the NTL ones, there'll be a merging of assets that'll take a while to shake out (on the plus side for you, Telewest's CS operation has a far better reputation than NTL's...) Of course, now you're unified they might simply outsource the lot to India

 

[Will]

Bah, I'm only due statutory redundancy pay, which for someone my age, is one week for every year worked. So, five weeks pay. That kinda sucks. Not really worth hanging about for, it'll be time to look for something else as soon as.

 

[Clown]

People here who got VS got paid well I heard.

 

[Tom]

Will I'd use this as an opportunity to rethink your life (not that theres anything wrong with it!) You now are being forced into getting another job, so think hard and who knows you may even change career

 

[Turamber]

All the info you need is available on http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/redundancy/payments-pl808.htm. Find this website very handy indeed.

 

[rynnor]

Start looking for another job but even if they do make you redundant it wont be quick - with large scale redundancies like these they would have to consult with unions etc. etc.

There will probably be some attractive voluntary redundancy but with only 5 years they wont be that great - however most of your redundancy payment would be tax free so depends how long you think it would take you to find another job.

I got made redundant last year and its worked out very well - it pushed me in a direction I'd considered but just needed something to make me stretch myself. Now I earn more than twice as much and the job itself and the people are a lot more fun.

Consider it an opportunity and you'll do well!

Edit - oh and one warning - dont accept redundancy and then stay on in a 'consultancy' role etc - you'd end up paying tax on your redundancy payment if you do.

Edited Edit - PS - why not apply to Royal Bank?

 

[TdC]

Will I'd use this as an opportunity to rethink your life (not that theres anything wrong with it!) You now are being forced into getting another job, so think hard and who knows you may even change career

wise words here, though Will's prolly thinking hard already

how about becoming a pro biker then?

 

[throdgrain]

When I read the staggering misinformation typed on here by some people it really makes me question the wisdom of asking such questions on the internet m8
Good luck anyway !

 

[yaruar]

Will,

They cannot make YOU redundant - they make your JOB POSITION redundant.

Therefore, if they are to relocate you then it will be to a different position (probably the same job in the end tho)

Wanna see if there are any jobs there for me too ?

Having been through 3 redundencies in 4 years there are a few things.

The company has to prove that the positions are redundant.

They also have to make a reasonable effort to find you another role in the company. Although as a big company with structural changes i suspect they will be offering reasonable money. I'd wait and see what offer is given. You don't actually have to accept it and it can be challenged, but at the same time this often isn't worth the fight.

 

[Danya]

Where do you get that from? Its nonsense. There's a statutory maximum redundancy of £8100, plus the months' of whatever notice period you have.

Um, that's nonsense.

I was recently made redundant and I checked up on this quite a bit in the run up.

Statutory is one week per full year of service. Partial years get nothing. They can pay you your notice period or ask you to work it at their discretion. Also for more than 90 employees they have to allow a 3 month consultation period where they consult staff or representitives of the staff and attempt to reach a better solution. you're counted as employed during this period so they have to pay you. Also if they do it right your notice can run concurrently with the consultation period.

As for what they'll offer that depends. They may only offer statutory in which case you should jump ship sooner rather than later. some companies offer much better packages though. If you have mortgage or credit protection from redudancy you'll only be able to use it if they make you compulsarily redundant though - taking voluntary or quitting invalidates the protection policy.

 

[Ono]

My company announced 750 jobs to be axed today. Will take place over 24 months:

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/450ce7a4-35b1-11da-903d-00000e2511c8.html

In the briefing today the biggest disappointment for most of my department came when the head of our department announced no voluntary redundancies.

Think several people were hoping for the chance to apply for a big pay-off

2 months of consultation amongst 6,800 staff is being currently carried out.

 

[Embattle]

If a large company decides something, like what to give people who they are going to make redundant, then you can normally guarantee it is within the law as it'll take a trip through the companies legal department.

 

[DaGaffer]

Um, that's nonsense.

I was recently made redundant and I checked up on this quite a bit in the run up.

Statutory is one week per full year of service. Partial years get nothing. They can pay you your notice period or ask you to work it at their discretion. Also for more than 90 employees they have to allow a 3 month consultation period where they consult staff or representitives of the staff and attempt to reach a better solution. you're counted as employed during this period so they have to pay you. Also if they do it right your notice can run concurrently with the consultation period.

As for what they'll offer that depends. They may only offer statutory in which case you should jump ship sooner rather than later. some companies offer much better packages though. If you have mortgage or credit protection from redudancy you'll only be able to use it if they make you compulsarily redundant though - taking voluntary or quitting invalidates the protection policy.

No its not, if you read what I said, statutory maximum is £8100; I didn't say anything about about weeks per year of service, which is absolutely correct, but there is a cap on it, which is why in my original post I was pointing out that companies have to give you "six months salary" was bollocks. Unfortunately I've been made redundant twice in the last year, and in my time I've had the horrible task of making people redundant too, (as one or two people on here can testify ) so I've got a fair amount of experience in this.

 

[Lester]

Will

what do you do? Is it Telewest call centre monkey or do you have skizzles?

 

[Will]

Call centre monkey. I do have mad customer service skillz though.