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old.Odysseus
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Can you record movies in DAoC of length 1-2 minutes?
If yes - how?
If yes - how?
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old.LandShark
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other than buy pointing a camcorder at your screen, I dunno :|
Had a prog once that made AVIs out of any D3D application (such as DAOC) but the fps was awful.
Try www.hypercam.com, they might have improved it ^^
Had a prog once that made AVIs out of any D3D application (such as DAOC) but the fps was awful.
Try www.hypercam.com, they might have improved it ^^
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Exiled
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they havent LS 
still crap, buy TV out graphics card, buy TV IN graphics card, loop the signal via your VCR, record your game (800x600 res though ) loop it back though your TV IN card and record the input and compress it simple as that .....
still crap, buy TV out graphics card, buy TV IN graphics card, loop the signal via your VCR, record your game (800x600 res though ) loop it back though your TV IN card and record the input and compress it simple as that .....
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Archeon
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Originally posted by Exiled
buy TV out graphics card, buy TV IN graphics card, loop the signal via your VCR, record your game (800x600 res though
simple as that .....
Yes... simple.... <nods to make it seem he understands>
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belth
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Something called FRAPS or something... 640x480 only though, last time I checked. Crap too, I guess.
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old.Cotta
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Exiled
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1. Buy decent upto date graphics card (99% come with TV/OUT)
2. Buy a decent graphics card with TV/IN (haupagge recommend)
3. Buy S-Video cable
4. Plug S-Video cable into TV/Out port on the graphics card,
5. Plug other end into VCR
6. Start your TV/Out software on your pc (comes with card)
7. Log into DAoC
8. Turn TV + VCR on
9. Turn to S-Video channel on VCR and to the video channel on your TV
10. Press record on your VCR
11. In DAoC do what you want to record (wave at yourself what ever)
12. Log out of DAoC (yes i know its hard but you have to)
13. Stop recording
14. Plug the end of the S-Video cable from the TV/Out port (on the graphics card) to the TV/In port on the other graphics card.
15. Start up image recording software on PC (got a list someplace of decent ones, get most expensive you can find or download )
16. Rewind VCR
17. Press Play on VCR
18. Press Record on PC
19. Once done, make coffee
20. Turn VCR off
21. Compress data on PC and add sound, edit cut about all that stuff.
22. Get a website with UBER bandwidth and host it
23. Post link on BW
24. Get
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25. Mail me £30 for this guide !!!
2. Buy a decent graphics card with TV/IN (haupagge recommend)
3. Buy S-Video cable
4. Plug S-Video cable into TV/Out port on the graphics card,
5. Plug other end into VCR
6. Start your TV/Out software on your pc (comes with card)
7. Log into DAoC
8. Turn TV + VCR on
9. Turn to S-Video channel on VCR and to the video channel on your TV
10. Press record on your VCR
11. In DAoC do what you want to record (wave at yourself what ever)
12. Log out of DAoC (yes i know its hard but you have to)
13. Stop recording
14. Plug the end of the S-Video cable from the TV/Out port (on the graphics card) to the TV/In port on the other graphics card.
15. Start up image recording software on PC (got a list someplace of decent ones, get most expensive you can find or download
)16. Rewind VCR
17. Press Play on VCR
18. Press Record on PC
19. Once done, make coffee
20. Turn VCR off
21. Compress data on PC and add sound, edit cut about all that stuff.
22. Get a website with UBER bandwidth and host it
23. Post link on BW
24. Get
's25. Mail me £30 for this guide !!!
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old.Odysseus
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Originally posted by Exiled
1. Buy decent upto date graphics card (99% come with TV/OUT)
2. Buy a decent graphics card with TV/IN (haupagge recommend)
3. Buy S-Video cable
4. Plug S-Video cable into TV/Out port on the graphics card,
5. Plug other end into VCR
6. Start your TV/Out software on your pc (comes with card)
7. Log into DAoC
8. Turn TV + VCR on
9. Turn to S-Video channel on VCR and to the video channel on your TV
10. Press record on your VCR
11. In DAoC do what you want to record (wave at yourself what ever)
12. Log out of DAoC (yes i know its hard but you have to)
13. Stop recording
14. Plug the end of the S-Video cable from the TV/Out port (on the graphics card) to the TV/In port on the other graphics card.
15. Start up image recording software on PC (got a list someplace of decent ones, get most expensive you can find or download
16. Rewind VCR
17. Press Play on VCR
18. Press Record on PC
19. Once done, make coffee
20. Turn VCR off
21. Compress data on PC and add sound, edit cut about all that stuff.
22. Get a website with UBER bandwidth and host it
23. Post link on BW
24. Get
25. Mail me £30 for this guide !!!
nm I asked
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Exiled
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well you did ask hehe
hehe
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kameh
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I've been asked by a few people for this, it's about as much details as I can give:
Making DAOC movies
This post is just to show people how I make my DAOC movies, chances are that there are better, faster or easier setups than the one I use. But I’m very much still a newbie at this and learn so much every time I make one.
Step 1 – Record what you have on screen to the VCR
I liked this solution for 1 reason – no performance hit when playing the game. It also generally means smoother movies as there’s no writing to hard disk as it’s being recorded.
How do I..
My video card has 2 monitor outputs and a setting that allows you to “clone” the first screen (my monitor) to the second output (VCR). I have a small device called Trust televiewer that allows me to send this signal in PAL format to any VCR/TV, the device can also be used to split the signal from 1 monitor to 1monitor + TV/VCR if you have no secondary output on your video card.
Setting all this up was fairly straight forward, you’ll probably need to get a few cables especially if your VCR is SCART only like mine. Some tinkering may be needed to get the picture appearing clearly on the TV but if you have a basic knowledge of your PC and can work a VCR you’ll do fine
Your now able to record hours of continuous play, hit record and do whatever you want!
Step 2 – Capture what you recorded back to your PC
I use a Pinnacle DC10 video capture card, it’s not in any way the best on the market but at around £100 it was fairly cheap for a dedicated card that comes with all the software you need. The signal comes back from the VCR via a SCART to Composite video cable (you can get this from argos if you live in the UK from under £10).
The software I generally use just now is the same one that came with the DC10 card – Pinnacle studio 7. The software is very good with one problem.. it’s unbelievably unstable especially if your creating larger movies. I’ll be looking for an alternative capture/editing software for the next movie I make. There are a few things to remember when you capture your video.
1. Your movie will be more than 1 continual scene, if like mine it could be 30+ scenes stuck together with transitions. You can only add captures to the movie if they’re captured at the same frame rate as the first scene you add – if you start using a 25fps(PAL) clip you cant then add a 30fps clip later on.
2. Resolution – there’s no point in recording a clip at high resolution if the movie will be long and for distribution over the internet. People simply will not download 100Mb of movie that lasts 1 minute. By all means record it at a fairly high resolution but remember your computer has to be able to handle the larger files and of course you’ll run out of hard disk space quickly.
3. Brightness – Try to set the right contrast/brightness controls when you first record the clip, the main problem I have with recording DAOC at night is that it’s so dark at lower resolution you cant make anything out! Turn the brightness up a little, just enough so that figures etc are clear.
4. Naming clips – if your going to be recording a lot of indiviual clips/scenes name them clearing so you don’t lose track of what you have. You might also be able to use those clips later if you don’t on the movie your currently making.
Step 3 – Editing
Pinnacle Studio is really a newbie editing suite. Which is perfect for the likes of me. Text, etc can be added easily and transitions (fades) are done in a few clicks. I just wish it didn’t crash as often!
I did a lot of the more technical editing using a program called “ Media studio Pro 6” This is a few years old but it was the only one I had available to me. With this software the following becomes very easy, most of it had to be done because I hadnt taken things like my chat/menus into consideration when recording:
Resolution changing, changing clip FPS – I should listen to myself more often!, trimming the clip so that only the action is shown without menubars and chat boxes. There’s a lot more to the software but at the time making my Hibernia movie I had no need to use anything else.
Step 4 – Compiling the movie
I’m still learning this part as you’ll probably notice if you’ve seen my movies so I wont preach what I don’t know! Here’s some things I’ve learnt the hard way:
1. Try to keep transitions simple, complex or fancy ones can draw attention away from the action and have people focus on the fading between scenes!
2. Try not to have too many fast scene changes unless you really need to (fast paced music etc)
3. Watch the film, if your reasonably happy with it then watch it 3 or 4 times, pay attention to non-action elements like transitions and music.. is it in time with the movie, could you move a scene and make it work better with the music?
4. You don’t always need to have a fade or transition at all between scenes, some scenes naturally seem to work well together.
5. Don’t expect to get it right first time and never rush to the finish.
6. Mpegs are generally more compatible and smaller sized than most formats, there are WMF files also that are extremely compressed but not everyone can view these. Try to keep file sizes down, do you need the clip to be full screen resolution of would a small window be enough?
7. Turn off recording the soundtrack if you don’t have one! It should do this for you.. SHOULD
8. Tweak the film, making scenes last a little longer or cutting them short can make a big difference to the over all feel of the movie.
9. Get your name on the movie, people will want to know who made it regardless of how good it is.
10. Music – try to have it fit the subject of your movie. Classical music is always good for DAOC
Links:
Trust Televiewer – http://www.puremotion.com/videoediting/reviews/hardware/trustteleviewer/
Trust Televiewer and DC10 can be bought from – www.scan.co.uk
Pinnacle – http://www.pinnaclesys.com
Pinnacle support for when it doesn’t fecking work – http://www.pinnaclesys.com/wwwsupport/Forums/uk/frameset.htm
I've been asked by a few people for this, it's about as much details as I can give:
Making DAOC movies
This post is just to show people how I make my DAOC movies, chances are that there are better, faster or easier setups than the one I use. But I’m very much still a newbie at this and learn so much every time I make one.
Step 1 – Record what you have on screen to the VCR
I liked this solution for 1 reason – no performance hit when playing the game. It also generally means smoother movies as there’s no writing to hard disk as it’s being recorded.
How do I..
My video card has 2 monitor outputs and a setting that allows you to “clone” the first screen (my monitor) to the second output (VCR). I have a small device called Trust televiewer that allows me to send this signal in PAL format to any VCR/TV, the device can also be used to split the signal from 1 monitor to 1monitor + TV/VCR if you have no secondary output on your video card.
Setting all this up was fairly straight forward, you’ll probably need to get a few cables especially if your VCR is SCART only like mine. Some tinkering may be needed to get the picture appearing clearly on the TV but if you have a basic knowledge of your PC and can work a VCR you’ll do fine
Your now able to record hours of continuous play, hit record and do whatever you want!
Step 2 – Capture what you recorded back to your PC
I use a Pinnacle DC10 video capture card, it’s not in any way the best on the market but at around £100 it was fairly cheap for a dedicated card that comes with all the software you need. The signal comes back from the VCR via a SCART to Composite video cable (you can get this from argos if you live in the UK from under £10).
The software I generally use just now is the same one that came with the DC10 card – Pinnacle studio 7. The software is very good with one problem.. it’s unbelievably unstable especially if your creating larger movies. I’ll be looking for an alternative capture/editing software for the next movie I make. There are a few things to remember when you capture your video.
1. Your movie will be more than 1 continual scene, if like mine it could be 30+ scenes stuck together with transitions. You can only add captures to the movie if they’re captured at the same frame rate as the first scene you add – if you start using a 25fps(PAL) clip you cant then add a 30fps clip later on.
2. Resolution – there’s no point in recording a clip at high resolution if the movie will be long and for distribution over the internet. People simply will not download 100Mb of movie that lasts 1 minute. By all means record it at a fairly high resolution but remember your computer has to be able to handle the larger files and of course you’ll run out of hard disk space quickly.
3. Brightness – Try to set the right contrast/brightness controls when you first record the clip, the main problem I have with recording DAOC at night is that it’s so dark at lower resolution you cant make anything out! Turn the brightness up a little, just enough so that figures etc are clear.
4. Naming clips – if your going to be recording a lot of indiviual clips/scenes name them clearing so you don’t lose track of what you have. You might also be able to use those clips later if you don’t on the movie your currently making.
Step 3 – Editing
Pinnacle Studio is really a newbie editing suite. Which is perfect for the likes of me. Text, etc can be added easily and transitions (fades) are done in a few clicks. I just wish it didn’t crash as often!
I did a lot of the more technical editing using a program called “ Media studio Pro 6” This is a few years old but it was the only one I had available to me. With this software the following becomes very easy, most of it had to be done because I hadnt taken things like my chat/menus into consideration when recording:
Resolution changing, changing clip FPS – I should listen to myself more often!, trimming the clip so that only the action is shown without menubars and chat boxes. There’s a lot more to the software but at the time making my Hibernia movie I had no need to use anything else.
Step 4 – Compiling the movie
I’m still learning this part as you’ll probably notice if you’ve seen my movies so I wont preach what I don’t know! Here’s some things I’ve learnt the hard way:
1. Try to keep transitions simple, complex or fancy ones can draw attention away from the action and have people focus on the fading between scenes!
2. Try not to have too many fast scene changes unless you really need to (fast paced music etc)
3. Watch the film, if your reasonably happy with it then watch it 3 or 4 times, pay attention to non-action elements like transitions and music.. is it in time with the movie, could you move a scene and make it work better with the music?
4. You don’t always need to have a fade or transition at all between scenes, some scenes naturally seem to work well together.
5. Don’t expect to get it right first time and never rush to the finish.
6. Mpegs are generally more compatible and smaller sized than most formats, there are WMF files also that are extremely compressed but not everyone can view these. Try to keep file sizes down, do you need the clip to be full screen resolution of would a small window be enough?
7. Turn off recording the soundtrack if you don’t have one! It should do this for you.. SHOULD
8. Tweak the film, making scenes last a little longer or cutting them short can make a big difference to the over all feel of the movie.
9. Get your name on the movie, people will want to know who made it regardless of how good it is.
10. Music – try to have it fit the subject of your movie. Classical music is always good for DAOC
Links:
Trust Televiewer – http://www.puremotion.com/videoediting/reviews/hardware/trustteleviewer/
Trust Televiewer and DC10 can be bought from – www.scan.co.uk
Pinnacle – http://www.pinnaclesys.com
Pinnacle support for when it doesn’t fecking work – http://www.pinnaclesys.com/wwwsupport/Forums/uk/frameset.htm