Recoment me a grafic card!

chova99

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Well im gonna invest in a new gfx card got a limit of 5000 dkk around 500£.

I have now have used Geforce Ti4200, good card but it is just not strong enough for the games i play.

I have allso tryed GeForce FX 5600 the worst crap in the world tbh it conflicts with my soundcard so when running 2x doac accs music lags constant and the fps is just :puke: so now I have the cash for it can any 1 recoment a good card that can run daoc,HL2,doom3 smoothly with the best setings and it has to be a card that wont lag of any kind.
 

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For £472.50? I'd buy a nice 6800GT, mine runs all three of those games very well. Then spend the other £250 upgrading the rest of your machine Oo
 

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Radeon X800XT

strolling through Greenglades in a zerg with all gfx and zero lag :)
 

chova99

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ill go for a Radeon card since its not the first time ive heard good from it thx for the help ;)
 

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Go for the Radeon X800

According to Toms Hardware guide there is no doubt that Doom 3 should be played on a Nvidia GeForce 6800 card, BUT, if u have the money for the best card, I guess u will be playing with all grafics enhancing features enabled, FSAA, Anisothophic filtering and so on, and in that case the Radeon X800 XT Platinum edition will beat Nvidia's best card to date.
So , u picked the best card according to some more complex tests viewed on tom's hardware guide ;)
 

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Imho take GeForce 6800 GT, or if you really need turbo, 6800 Ultra. Radeon X800 cards are manufacturer overclocked crap that ATI isn't capable of spreading on the market in adequate ammount. Both it's core and memory runs on high speed and only few pieces of many manufactured can hold the frequency. You even don't know frequency of your X800 card cause every single one has different. You may check with benchmarkers sites - every one has different frequency that ATI reported to them. Imho it quite stinks.
 

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Sycho said:
What he said.

I said it first! :(

chova99 said:
ill go for a Radeon card since its not the first time ive heard good from it thx for the help ;)

I look forward to your whines about how you should have got a 6800GT :p

On a side note, i run DAoC and HL2 @12xx res.
DAoC runs with best visual quality setting and shadows turned up to all, with affects all, in a 70 man keep take with no fps lag :O
Half-life2? I may as well be watching it at the movies :D

Not only is the 6800GT a fantastic card, you also have a much better chance of getting hold of one, this side of the new year.
 

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frogster said:
I said it first! :(



I look forward to your whines about how you should have got a 6800GT :p

On a side note, i run DAoC and HL2 @12xx res.
DAoC runs with best visual quality setting and shadows turned up to all, with affects all, in a 70 man keep take with no fps lag :O
Half-life2? I may as well be watching it at the movies :D

Not only is the 6800GT a fantastic card, you also have a much better chance of getting hold of one, this side of the new year.

You forgot pixel shader 3.0 too :p also if you get radeon x800 pro make sure you go for MSI/gigabyte VIVO models as they have 16 pipelines out of the box.
 

chova99

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ok my tryes on getting a radeon card is very hard ive been visiting a very famous site in my country witch is like a "google" got all the sites that have this card but ive read the comments from alot of the companys and it looks like the card is very outsold most of the places some ppl even been listed up to 4 months for it, so now i am quiet confused give me some back ground on that nvdia card. sounds to me more like that on theese forums :> dos it delay lag like 0.50 sec when you move around "not mouse look" in daoc etc. ? since i got that problem with my own atm. !!!
 

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Why those expensive cards?
I've got an Asus V5970 /TD 256MB (GeForce FX5700 GPU), cost me about €150 and I run ToA at 1280*1024 Full options, and the only graphic lag I've got is in the 2 seconds after porting..........



-my puter-
Mobo: MSI K8N Neo-Platinum
CPU: AMD 64 3200+
Mem: 2* Dane-Elec 512MB PC3200
GFX: Asus V5970 /TD 256MB
HD: Seagate 120MB S-ATA
NIC: SMB card

The only problem with that mobo is that the Gigabit network card has some troubles making me go ld after same-zone portings, that's the reason for the seperate NIC
 

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Well if chova is going to play games like far cry, half life 2 and doom 3 on 1280x1024 res or more with high qua settings+af+aa then he would want to go for a 6800GT or radeon x800 pro for best card valued for running at those settings(since both can be overclocked to their higher models stock speeds or more quite easy).If you want to play the games fairly good settings and daoc very good, i suggest getting a radeon 9800 pro or even better a geforce non ultra for £180-200, perhaps even a geforce 6600GT which is at £150.
 

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Stay away from the X800Pro's and go for the 6800GT imo.
 

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chova99 said:
I have allso tryed GeForce FX 5600 the worst crap in the world tbh it conflicts with my soundcard so when running 2x doac accs music lags constant and the fps is just :puke:
Have to say that it's very high probability the FX card is the innocent one in this matter. More likely it looks like your motherboard isn't capable of fluent feed of faster cards or it gives your sound card and graphic card same IRQ. In case you have your sound card integrated on the mobo ( :puke: ), audio lags would be quite normal when the chipset gets loaded.

BUT if you want lagless run, you need 1024 MB RAM at least (for 2 accounts run I'd vote for even more). Graphic cards (even that GeForce 4) are quite capable of handling the rendering in decent speed.

My advice is following: post here your hardware configuration and we'll be better capable of telling you where to invest. OFC for those half-lifes etc. you'll need GF 6800 rank card, but fast card and slow processor/low ram won't help you much...
 

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Get the X800 XT, best card there is. Costs a little bit more than a 6800GT, but its the best price/performance by far.

(I have a X800 XT PE and I get way higher 3DMark05 score than almost any system with a 6800 Ultra)
 

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Xeanor said:
Get the X800 XT, best card there is. Costs a little bit more than a 6800GT, but its the best price/performance by far.

(I have a X800 XT PE and I get way higher 3DMark05 score than almost any system with a 6800 Ultra)

If you consider 3DMark 2005 representative benchmark suit yourself :p
 

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Honza said:
If you consider 3DMark 2005 representative benchmark suit yourself :p
It was merely an example. 3DMark05 uses most of the extremely complicated features of a graphics card, which a lot of other tests don't.

It's actually faster than the 6800 Ultra like 95% of the times, unless you go look at Doom 3, but who would want to buy a gfx card only for Doom 3 :p

But if you don't have the money for a X800 XT (PE), get a 6800 GT yes :p

Also, all single-card records for most benchmarks are done with X800 XT's.
 

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The X800 XT definately is a great card and if money doesn't matter at all then by all means go for it.

If however you wanna save a bit of cash and get a decent value then go GT imo. As I said: The X800XT is great (and you will get more fps than with the 6800GT) but I dont think the 4 or 5 frames more are worth an additional hundred bucks (Euros not Pounds).

But you stated that money is not an issue: So go for the ATI. Just make sure that you dont buy anything less than the XT-version cause quite frankly: All the other ATI-models suck (sorry, I wish I could find another word to describe it)
 
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, i suggest getting a radeon 9800 pro or even better a geforce non ultra for £180-200, perhaps even a geforce 6600GT which is at £150.

Yeah you can pick up a 9800 pro for £100-130 these days. I paid £130 for the ATI manufactured version about 6 months ago. Still got good bang for your buck. I know you are after a higher end card, this post was more to point it out to any other users of these forums.
 

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Best bang for your buck - geforce 6800GT - have one at home, bloody great card and not too expensive
 

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chova99 said:
Well im gonna invest in a new gfx card got a limit of 5000 dkk around 500£.

I have now have used Geforce Ti4200, good card but it is just not strong enough for the games i play.

I have allso tryed GeForce FX 5600 the worst crap in the world tbh it conflicts with my soundcard so when running 2x doac accs music lags constant and the fps is just :puke: so now I have the cash for it can any 1 recoment a good card that can run daoc,HL2,doom3 smoothly with the best setings and it has to be a card that wont lag of any kind.
i speek from experince and ive allways used Nvidia since first gforce you want the best card out in the world ? i recommand this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/GeForce_6800_Ultra.html I recommand the XFX or AOpen it beats any other card on the market and its proven its eaten the lateist Ati gfx card for breakfust and if you useing an Nforce chipset mother board I would deffenly recommand Nvidia

Gimmly
 

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Tears said:
Best bang for your buck - geforce 6800GT - have one at home, bloody great card and not too expensive

Got that running on an athlon 3500 at the moment, have to say it's the best card i have ever bought by far and certainly is worth it's price considering how mediocre/poorly designed the fx series were at running games with all the graphical features on(anti aniliasing, anistrophic filtering for example).

Same with radeon 9800 pro, geforce 6600GT, radeon x800 pro and geforce 6800 Non Ultra, i think all those cards aswell as the 6800GT are the best current ones on the market for their prices.

Below £100 then you looking at a radeon 9700.
 

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I just plugged my 6600gt (AGP) in and I have to say I'm impressed... then again I've been using a geforce4 440mx since SI came out :eek7:

For £149 it's well worth it.
 

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XhitmanX said:
I recommand the XFX and if you useing an Nforce chipset mother board I would deffenly recommand Nvidia

Ohh, ffs wish I could afford such a nice XFX baby :)... And with new nVidia chipset for Intel CPUs mobo... ohhh gimme gimme
 

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Ive noticed theese 3 cards that im thinking about buying.
Gforce 6800 GT - Card at £200-350
Gforce 6800 Ultra - exspensive card around £400-450
Gforce 6800 LE - Very cheap compared to the other 2 cards

What the diffrends between theese 3 cards any got some ideas ?
 

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chova99 said:
Ive noticed theese 3 cards that im thinking about buying.
Gforce 6800 GT - Card at £200-350
Gforce 6800 Ultra - exspensive card around £400-450
Gforce 6800 LE - Very cheap compared to the other 2 cards

What the diffrends between theese 3 cards any got some ideas ?

Geforce 6800GT= Best valued performer of those IF you intend to play games 1280x1024 res or more with the graphical features on(anistrophic filtering, anti aniliasing for example to name a few) , in other words it's a fantastic card that runs games so damn good at high settings, i am using one myself and highly recommended it.

The 6800 Ultra is higher clock speeds but that's about it, you can clock the GT to ultra speeds(stock ones) easily so it works out saving £100 or so.

The 6800 LE is worth getting if you can't afford either and which to play games with decent settings but not upto the other two cards standards.

Go with the 6800GT if you got the cash.
 

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