Reaver question .......cue Pin

[catalina]

I cba to test if +piety is really worth it so if anyone has can they give some info on the benefits.

As far as i can make out it'll increase the damage on the insta-lifetap and wrack a little but i did some really quick tests on the proccing styles and it has no effect on them at all, they seem to be affected by weapskill alone.

 

[lac_desariel]

i think piety is its primary power pool, and casting stat like the mincer with chr and wiz int.. not sure tho

 

[catalina]

Yeah, piety is used for the power pool and casting aura's/lifetap.

Just wondered if it actually affected anything else cos reavers already have to fit 4 stats, 3 skills, and resists onto an SC set. Piety would be a 5th stat and i didn't bother with it on my SC set, just wondered if i was really missing out on much.

 

[Tilda]

Yes its worth it, increases power pool and DD dammage a bit.
My SC uses MP armor (armour?) caps; parry, shield, flex, qui, dex, str, con, hits and piety!

 

[Waok]

It's not very important, but it's nice to have.

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by catalina
I cba to test if +piety is really worth it so if anyone has can they give some info on the benefits.

As far as i can make out it'll increase the damage on the insta-lifetap and wrack a little but i did some really quick tests on the proccing styles and it has no effect on them at all, they seem to be affected by weapskill alone.

more power, more damage on spells, no effect on weapon procs... yup.

cap it imo.

 

[Hit ^_^]

Pin has Spoken..
was hoping for complicated formulas but i think this awsered it tho

does +Sr give anything btw?

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Hit ^_^
Pin has Spoken..
was hoping for complicated formulas but i think this awsered it tho

does +Sr give anything btw?

errr. fine. 5 pie gives about 1% more spell damage and 1% more power. ish.

flex is str/dex, so yup

 

[ilienwyn]

Originally posted by Pin
errr. fine. 5 pie gives about 1% more spell damage and 1% more power. ish.

flex is str/dex, so yup

Think he asked about +soulrending. Tbh don't see any big difference with it

 

[Flimgoblin]

Re: Re: Reaver question .......cue Pin

Originally posted by Pin
more power, more damage on spells, no effect on weapon procs... yup.

cap it imo.

you sure about more damage on spells?

doesn't _seem_ to help my cleric (although that may just be the Aug Acuity RA that doesn't give me more damage - it does give me more power though - mental note - TEST SOMETHING FING)

course reavers are a different fish

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by ilienwyn
Think he asked about +soulrending. Tbh don't see any big difference with it

did you read his question?

 

[Pin]

Re: Re: Re: Reaver question .......cue Pin

Originally posted by Flimgoblin
you sure about more damage on spells?

doesn't _seem_ to help my cleric (although that may just be the Aug Acuity RA that doesn't give me more damage - it does give me more power though - mental note - TEST SOMETHING FING)

course reavers are a different fish

well, I tested it and it gives more damage
And AA2 gives more damage on lifetap aswell as +pie on gear.

I wouldn't expect it to be any different for a smite cleric, though AA would only give a couple of points on your DDs.

 

[Bilf]

Originally posted by Hit ^_^

does +Sr give anything btw?

I think +Sr is +Soulrendering, not +Strength. I think that's what Ilienwyn was on about.

 

[Hit ^_^]

ye was soul-rending i ment but thanks anyway.

so both slash/crush flex is str/dex ?

 

[Flimgoblin]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Reaver question .......cue Pin

Originally posted by Pin

I wouldn't expect it to be any different for a smite cleric, though AA would only give a couple of points on your DDs.

same damage cap before and after might improve damage but not cap maybe?

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Hit ^_^
ye was soul-rending i ment but thanks anyway.

so both slash/crush flex is str/dex ?

errr. sorry. was a bit tired at 2 and just off to bed

yes, +SR gives gives an increase to damage aswell.

and yes, both types of flexible weapons are str/dex.

 

[Pin]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Reaver question .......cue Pin

Originally posted by Flimgoblin
same damage cap before and after might improve damage but not cap maybe?

cap damage is 3x delve. doesn't change. (except with MoM adding 3%).

use a spec nuke (so no variance - or can use base nuke if you have over 50 total smite) on a yellowcon with and without your pie gear.

 

[old.Ramas]

Re: Re: Re: Reaver question .......cue Pin

Originally posted by Flimgoblin
doesn't _seem_ to help my cleric

Priests are a specific exclusion to the 'acuity helps damage' rule - it's not a general 'list casters only' thing.

Acuity also helps damage on Valewalkers, Nightshades, Thanes etc.

At least this always used to be the arrangement when my cleric was mixed spec. That was 13 patches ago mind you.

 

[Arkian]

While you're around Pin, any advice on reaver specs/starting race&points etc. Was thinking of starting one.

 

[old.Ramas]

Cookie cutter is +10 str/con/dex Briton

Flex 50
SR 39
Shield 42
Parry 6

Keep SR up high in the early levels.

 

[K0nah]

saracen seems like a no brainer to me for reaver, more flex wepskill+more blocking+more evading+more parrying and -30hits

like my sarc reaver anyway

but i spose u wont ever pass for a cleric

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by old.Ramas
Cookie cutter is +10 str/con/dex Briton

Flex 50
SR 39
Shield 42
Parry 6

Keep SR up high in the early levels.

get nothing extra for 39SR. leave it at 36 (or autotrain and have the option of 41... mine's 36 anyway though)

as for race.... I would go brit or saracen as a melee-fish would probably just annoy the hell out of me. the stat difference is small either way, saracen has ~15 more weaponskill and a small increase to blocking over brit. brit has 40 more hp.

I went for brit mainly because my inf was a saracen.

 

[alithiel50]

You can have lots of fun with a small, blonde briton girl who uses whips...

... and they make good reavers, too! :uhoh:

 

[Kallio]

Originally posted by alithiel50
You can have lots of fun with a small, blonde briton girl who uses whips...

... and they make good reavers, too! :uhoh:

:uhoh: :whip:

 

[necrofill]

Originally posted by Pin
get nothing extra for 39SR. leave it at 36 (or autotrain and have the option of 41... mine's 36 anyway though)

can reavers autotrain sr? coz camelothearld doesnt show/say reavers can autotrain anything!!

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by necrofill
can reavers autotrain sr? coz camelothearld doesnt show/say reavers can autotrain anything!!

they can autotrain flex and slash.

 

[Kiros]

How important would you say capping piety and soulrending is. Would they be more important than quickness?

Is twisting chants anythings reavers use? Does it suck up too much mana/end? End wont really be a problem, as i run with a pally at all times
If so, which order are which chants played?

 

[ilienwyn]

Originally posted by Kiros
How important would you say capping piety and soulrending is. Would they be more important than quickness?

Is twisting chants anythings reavers use? Does it suck up too much mana/end? End wont really be a problem, as i run with a pally at all times
If so, which order are which chants played?

Twisting sucks quite a lot power (mostly) and end. But i usually have problem on big fights or when i do some really heavy twisting to break boxes. As for quickness, I have it capped cause I like using more levis when needed. You see, style proccs don't depend on weapon speed or quickness so it is better to do more swings